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When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: March 22, 2020 12:55PM
You know it's coming.

Our efforts to slow the spread of this virus are going to annihilate our economy.

What will the spark be? Power outages? I wonder.
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 22, 2020 12:58PM
....society has already begun to break down.....



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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: TheTominator
Date: March 22, 2020 01:05PM
I can only predict that it will be on a Thursday.
I never could get the hang of Thursdays.
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: March 22, 2020 01:11PM
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freeradical
You know it's coming.

Our efforts to slow the spread of this virus are going to annihilate our economy.

What will the spark be? Power outages? I wonder.

Disasters have happened before and civil society doesn't break down. This isn't the first disaster and it won't be the last.

I know, that doesn't make a good movie, does it?



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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: March 22, 2020 01:23PM
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mattkime
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freeradical
You know it's coming.

Our efforts to slow the spread of this virus are going to annihilate our economy.

What will the spark be? Power outages? I wonder.

Disasters have happened before and civil society doesn't break down. This isn't the first disaster and it won't be the last.

I know, that doesn't make a good movie, does it?


Disasters are typically localized.

This is happening everywhere.

Big difference.
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: March 22, 2020 01:42PM
I don’t sense anything of that sort is going to happen. People aren’t dying left and right. The global economy has taken far worse and survived without drama. But I do sense some are kinda wishing for something to happen.....
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: wolfcry911
Date: March 22, 2020 01:46PM
Loss of internet might do it...
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: rgG
Date: March 22, 2020 01:46PM
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Carnos Jax
I don’t sense anything of that sort is going to happen. People aren’t dying left and right. The global economy has taken far worse and survived without drama. But I do sense some are kinda wishing for something to happen.....

I am not sure the global economy has, will have, seen worse, except during wartime.





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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: PeterB
Date: March 22, 2020 01:52PM
If one believes works of fiction, it's usually at that point where basic survival needs aren't being met-- lack of food, water, shelter, health and safety.

It's considered young adult fiction, but for any who haven't already read it, it's pretty entertaining and at least somewhat relevant to our current situation: [www.kobo.com] (warning, more than a little depressing!)




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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: March 22, 2020 02:15PM
There's no indication of breakdown happening. People getting bored and worrying about money doesn't collapse societies. Neither does lots of sick people.
(Perhaps some people are itching to try out their weaponry. On this, I'm confident they'll cook up some excuse or other. Don't be suckered into killing your neighbor for no reason.)



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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: vision63
Date: March 22, 2020 02:16PM
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wolfcry911
Loss of internet might do it...

haha. That would cause civil unrest at any time.
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: vision63
Date: March 22, 2020 02:17PM
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Steve G.
There's no indication of breakdown happening. People getting bored and worrying about money doesn't collapse societies.
(Perhaps some people are itching to try out their weaponry. On this, I'm confident they'll cook up some excuse or other. Don't be suckered into killing your neighbor for no reason.)

I'll try hard not to.
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: Don C
Date: March 22, 2020 02:29PM
Loss of internet might cause unrest, but it would not be ORGANIZED unrest.
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: Randalls
Date: March 22, 2020 02:40PM
Losing the internet and cable would cause a major panic as millions of folks would lose touch with their base of information. They would also have a tough time figuring out how to get a signal OTA
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: March 22, 2020 02:44PM
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Randalls
Losing the internet and cable would cause a major panic as millions of folks would lose touch with their base of information.

There's this newfangled invention called "RAY-DEE-OOH"...



It is what it is.



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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: Wags
Date: March 22, 2020 02:46PM
Hope it doesn't. forgot to stock up on ammo.
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: March 22, 2020 02:59PM
People are hoarding toilet paper and guns/ammo.
I have yet to see a neighbor sitting in front of a pallet of Charmin holding a rifle, but it's just a matter of time.
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: March 22, 2020 03:03PM
Let's see where this has happened already: China

China has not ceased to exist yet and in fact parts of it are getting back to work. I suppose you'd have to consider China's society a better one to ride out a contagious disease like this if you think that more Western-type ones are going to self-destruct.
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: Wags
Date: March 22, 2020 03:26PM
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S. Pupp
People are hoarding toilet paper and guns/ammo.
I have yet to see a neighbor sitting in front of a pallet of Charmin holding a rifle, but it's just a matter of time.

That's because they're in their basements, or bomb shelters.
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: vision63
Date: March 22, 2020 03:37PM
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N-OS X-tasy!
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Randalls
Losing the internet and cable would cause a major panic as millions of folks would lose touch with their base of information.

There's this newfangled invention called "RAY-DEE-OOH"...

This is a bomb little radio. I take it everywhere. You can even record shows. The sound is much better than it should be too.



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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: tuqqer
Date: March 22, 2020 03:47PM
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TheTominator
I can only predict that it will be on a Thursday.
I never could get the hang of Thursdays.

Listen to THIS gloom-and-doom.

Tuesday. It's Tuesday at the latest.



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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: March 22, 2020 04:04PM
Analyzing other more localized breakdowns, typical breakdowns include the following: Lack of food/water, inequity of recourses, lack of law enforcement, lack of hope, fear of unknown, fear of spread of the situation (contagion). Society is built on norms and acceptance of civil institutions. When that acceptance breaks down for some segments of society is when there are problems. It can happen in any town, anywhere, for many reasons. Just read below about this situation in Ukraine.

People rioted recently when internet rumors told them C-19 patients were coming to town.
[www.bbc.com]



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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: March 22, 2020 04:15PM
Come on people, now
Smile on your brother
Everybody come together
Try to love one another right now




rj
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: March 22, 2020 04:22PM
Yep, 9/11 just happened in NYC and DC. True fact!

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freeradical
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mattkime
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freeradical
You know it's coming.

Our efforts to slow the spread of this virus are going to annihilate our economy.

What will the spark be? Power outages? I wonder.

Disasters have happened before and civil society doesn't break down. This isn't the first disaster and it won't be the last.

I know, that doesn't make a good movie, does it?


Disasters are typically localized.

This is happening everywhere.

Big difference.



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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: TheTominator
Date: March 22, 2020 04:36PM
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vision63
This is a bomb little radio. I take it everywhere. You can even record shows. The sound is much better than it should be too.

I have this battery and hand crank weather radio when I need to shelter in my basement during a tornado warning. I don't think it receives normal FM/AM stations though. It does have a USB port for charging devices with hand crank power.





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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: March 22, 2020 05:05PM
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freeradical
When will civil society completely break down?

When there's no more toilet paper to be hoarded.
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: March 22, 2020 05:07PM
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freeradical
When will civil society completely break down?

When people stock up on guns 'n' ammo. Just for personal protection, of course.
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: wowzer
Date: March 22, 2020 05:15PM
Loss of food or water. I have a pool in my backyard; the water may not be the freshest, but boiling and drinking is not out of the question.

Lack of food is probably the only way people will riot and loot.



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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 22, 2020 06:43PM
....broke.....back.....mountain....



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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: btfc
Date: March 22, 2020 07:00PM
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: fauch
Date: March 22, 2020 07:44PM
I give it a month or two...
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: March 22, 2020 07:58PM
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pRICE cUBE

People rioted recently when internet rumors told them C-19 patients were coming to town.

They used to do the same thing when they heard the Jews were visiting.
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: March 22, 2020 08:52PM
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: March 22, 2020 10:11PM
The scary thing is this pandemic is a very mild one in biological terms. Imagine a disease that has a mortality rate like the one in 1918 and is VERY contagious (which that one may have been). Now that will truly be the end of civilization as we know it, unless we heed the warnings the current pandemic is teaching us.

It doesn't help that the current government administration took additional steps which hurt our ability to deal with issues like this. But it's not like previous administrations and other world governments had adequate procedures to deal with a truly monster pandemic either.

We need to wake up globally as a species and get our @#$%& together. It's not if, but only a matter of time....
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: chopper
Date: March 23, 2020 06:48PM
Have you ever visited the cesspool that is Facebook? It broke down a long time ago.
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: March 23, 2020 09:12PM
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chopper
Have you ever visited the cesspool that is Facebook? It broke down a long time ago.

Facebook IS the virus.



It is what it is.
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Re: When will civil society completely break down?
Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: March 25, 2020 12:09AM
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Carnos Jax
The scary thing is this pandemic is a very mild one in biological terms. Imagine a disease that has a mortality rate like the one in 1918 and is VERY contagious (which that one may have been).

The mortality rate and R0 for COVID-19 may be similar to those for the Spanish Flu.
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