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Send Apple feedback on Catalina's removal of Mail's column option
Posted by: tuqqer
Date: March 26, 2020 06:58AM
The new Catalina 10.15.4 did not bring back the missing column view (via View > Use Column Layout) to manage columns widths, click to sort by characteristics (like sender, subject, and size), nor the preferred ascending or descending first order.

Crazy that they would even think to remove this basic layout feature.

In any case, if you want to help get it back, here's Apple's link to giving this kind of specific feedback:

[www.apple.com]

"Bring back Mail's column sorting view" is probably good enough to get the point across.



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Re: Send Apple feedback on Catalina's removal of Mail's column option
Posted by: sekker
Date: March 26, 2020 07:10AM
Yet another reason to stick to Mojave for me. I don’t need to be forced to change my workflow thanks to Apple interface whims.
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Re: Send Apple feedback on Catalina's removal of Mail's column option
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: March 26, 2020 08:15AM
Why would they take out an essential feature of email organization and viewing? I know they seem to be pushing people into 'conversation' views on iPhones, which I find confusing and unintuitive, but on computers?

I'm only on Sierra (10.12.6), and so far don't see any reason to 'upgrade'. If I didn't have email in columns, I'd have to find another email program that will run on Macs.

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Re: Send Apple feedback on Catalina's removal of Mail's column option
Posted by: sekker
Date: March 26, 2020 08:52AM
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mrlynn
Why would they take out an essential feature of email organization and viewing? I know they seem to be pushing people into 'conversation' views on iPhones, which I find confusing and unintuitive, but on computers?

I'm only on Sierra (10.12.6), and so far don't see any reason to 'upgrade'. If I didn't have email in columns, I'd have to find another email program that will run on Macs.

/Mr Lynn

I assume all changes are to 'unify' Mail to be the same on iOS and Macs.
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Re: Send Apple feedback on Catalina's removal of Mail's column option
Posted by: bazookaman
Date: March 26, 2020 09:23AM
I'd like to send Apple feedback on the removal of Catalina's constant nagging to update.




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Re: Send Apple feedback on Catalina's removal of Mail's column option
Posted by: tuqqer
Date: March 26, 2020 09:44AM
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bazookaman
I'd like to send Apple feedback on the removal of Catalina's constant nagging to update.

bazooka, check out this method of stopping the notifications. It's via the Terminal, but it works:

[macreports.com]



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Re: Send Apple feedback on Catalina's removal of Mail's column option
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: March 26, 2020 09:48AM
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sekker
Apple interface whims.

Words I never thought I’d live to hear.



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Re: Send Apple feedback on Catalina's removal of Mail's column option
Posted by: Zoidberg
Date: March 26, 2020 09:55AM
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sekker
I assume all changes are to 'unify' Mail to be the same on iOS and Macs.

agree smiley

Mail is a pain, but I've tried a handful of other mail apps over the years and all have their problems, from interface to usability to privacy concerns. There's no panacea of perfection for the program.

SmallCubed's Mail Suite (they're the guys who made Mac Act-On) makes a handful of things easier for me in daily use.

I've also created a small spate of Smart Folders that keep things rolling. (Several folders that arrange my inbox by date received; mailing list groupings; attachments; by clients; etc.)

One odd change that has helped me a lot is getting rid of the preview pane. Sounds silly, but when I get a bunch of messages in, I look at them in my "Inbox * Today" smart folder, delete any junk that SpamSieve may not have caught, then either open or delete mailing list messages. Filing is via keystroke (Mail Act-On).

But having the message open instead of via preview nudges me to perform the action on -- read, file, delete, print, etc. -- so I wind up with less noise when I go back to the mailbox.

I would still love to see a handful of changes done to Mail -- they change things from time to time but it's rarely for the better -- but given the alternatives I've tried, there's always problems. Mail's problems I can deal with.



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Re: Send Apple feedback on Catalina's removal of Mail's column option
Posted by: testcase
Date: March 26, 2020 10:25AM
I gave up on AppleMail 10+ years ago. angry villagers smiley
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Re: Send Apple feedback on Catalina's removal of Mail's column option
Posted by: bazookaman
Date: March 26, 2020 11:19AM
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tuqqer
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bazookaman
I'd like to send Apple feedback on the removal of Catalina's constant nagging to update.

bazooka, check out this method of stopping the notifications. It's via the Terminal, but it works:

[macreports.com]

Thanks! That worked.




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