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2009 iMac, latest OS?
Posted by: clyde
Date: April 13, 2020 09:09AM
Late 2009 iMac now runs OS 10.13.1 OK. Will it run 10.14.6?
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Re: 2009 iMac, latest OS?
Posted by: PeterW
Date: April 13, 2020 09:16AM
10.13.6 is the max for that one. No Mojave for you.
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Re: 2009 iMac, latest OS?
Posted by: p8712
Date: April 13, 2020 09:32AM
Catalina with patch tool Mojave too. Works beautifully on my '09.
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Re: 2009 iMac, latest OS?
Posted by: STL
Date: April 13, 2020 09:53AM
dosdude to the rescue
Mojave: [www.youtube.com]
Catalina: [www.youtube.com]

dosdude's YouTube Page: [www.youtube.com]
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Re: 2009 iMac, latest OS?
Posted by: clyde
Date: April 13, 2020 10:15AM
p8712 wrote: "Catalina with patch tool Mojave too."

I'm in the dark. If iMac late 2009 won't run Mojave, how is it going to deal with Catalina?

Details, please.
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Re: 2009 iMac, latest OS?
Posted by: PeterW
Date: April 13, 2020 10:49AM
Apple in its wisdom decided that with certain hardware configurations that the experience of running Mojave or Catalina would not be a happy one. So they built in checks that look at what you’ve got and decide whether to allow the OS install to proceed or not. What the hacks do is disable the checks. They don’t make the OS run better on the hardware; they just allow them to run at all. It’s up to you to decide if the OS running on your hardware fills a need.
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Re: 2009 iMac, latest OS?
Posted by: SKYLANE
Date: April 13, 2020 11:09AM
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clyde
p8712 wrote: "Catalina with patch tool Mojave too."

I'm in the dark. If iMac late 2009 won't run Mojave, how is it going to deal with Catalina?

Details, please.


Details here: [dosdude1.com]

I used the patch tools here to load Catalina onto a 2011 MacBook Pro and a 2011 Mac Mini Server, both which were stuck at High Sierra without the patch tools provided by DosDude1. Same thing that p8712 did with his '09 Mac.

Your choice of whether your 2009 could run Mojave or Catalina.

Some of my experience here: [forums.macresource.com] [forums.macresource.com]



Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 04/13/2020 11:16AM by SKYLANE.
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Ok, then... How 'bout Sierra on a 2018 mini?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: April 13, 2020 12:35PM
Can Sierra be installed on a APFS SSD?

Can an APFS formatted SSD be changed to an HFS+ partition map?


The 'whys' are not important, just the 'ifs' and 'hows' matter.

In the past, Apple included a ROM check in the new OS, and that prevented unsupported OSs from being installed.

On one or two occasions, there were workarounds created. One easy one was to remove ROM check files from the installer.

It's just a consideration at this point, if it's even a possibility.

But if I could boot my 2018 mini from a Sierra external, I'd be giddy.




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Re: Ok, then... How 'bout Sierra on a 2018 mini?
Posted by: hal
Date: April 13, 2020 01:19PM
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Re: Ok, then... How 'bout Sierra on a 2018 mini?
Posted by: PeterW
Date: April 13, 2020 01:24PM
Sierra (and High Sierra for that matter) lacks the required software to support the Intel 630 graphics in the 2018 Mini. Got to be Mojave or newer.
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Re: 2009 iMac, latest OS?
Posted by: rouderon
Date: April 13, 2020 04:14PM
FWIW, I put dosdude1's Mojave on my old 24" 2008 iMac and was amazed to find it works extremely well. I'll admit I don't use it for an every day computer - I actually just wanted to see if/how it would work on there.

I also installed his version of Mojave on a 2009 Mac Mini we have hooked up to our living room TV. I did this yesterday so we could use a Wyzecam as a webcam (for FaceTime and Zoom), since it wouldn't work on El Captain (which was the former OS on there).
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Re: 2009 iMac, latest OS?
Posted by: sekker
Date: April 13, 2020 05:36PM
EDIT: upon reading, he notes that my machine is almost unusable with his patcher and Mojave. sad smiley

Nice! I have a 2010 i3 iMac that I just moved to High Sierra; if it can run Mojave well, I might keep it as long as it runs just to have a decent machine for CC3.

It's a fantastic handbrake machine.



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Re: 2009 iMac, latest OS?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: April 13, 2020 05:50PM
Sierra (and High Sierra for that matter) lacks the required software to support the Intel 630 graphics in the 2018 Mini. Got to be Mojave or newer.


Thank you.

It may as well stay at Catalina then.

I'll move everything off my 2012 and do a fresh install of Sierra.



It's a fantastic handbrake machine.


I'll have to check my 2010's configuration.

But it's GPU is pretty puny and stutters at 4K/60fps.

The 2012 is fine with it.




When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

Everybody matters or nobody matters.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

-An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

Mister, that's a ten-gallon hat on a twenty-gallon head.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.
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Re: 2009 iMac, latest OS?
Posted by: StingMe
Date: April 15, 2020 04:05PM
Is anyone's built-in camera working with 3rd party apps like Zoom after using dosdude's patch to upgrade the OS?

I recently installed both Mojave and Catalina on an 11,1 iMac and the camera works with PhotoBooth and FaceTime but not Zoom. The support materials indicate that internal camera functionality seems to be hit or miss; a bit of a bummer but not really a deal breaker for this machine...

Thanks.

EDIT: The camera issue appears to be more about Zoom & its requirement of a Metal-compatible GPU for video rendering. Collin (dosdude1) provides a patch for Zoom and after running his script, the built-in iSight works fine with Zoom on both Mojave and Catalina.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/15/2020 10:53PM by StingMe.
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