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Dell Optiplex 9010 - i7 and 16GB memory... Need "less expensive" video card for gaming. Any suggestions?
Posted by: spacescape
Date: April 19, 2020 08:40AM
I've acquired a well equipped Dell Optiplex 9010 w/ an i7 and 16GB of memory. Reloaded Windows 10 and put Fortnite on it for my son who wanted to "try" this on a Windows PC over the XBOX ONE. Frame Rate drops to crazy low. The video card is a AMD Radeon HD 7500 Series so pretty out of date. Our main outside IT guy helped me spec out of video card and some memory about a week ago for an older Optiplex with an i5 and 4GB of memory. I just don't want to ask him a second time for basically the same question but a better system. After he saw the specs of my other system he looked for "lower cost" upgrades that were lower power consumption. Here is what he suggested between $50-$100.

EVGA GT 710 2GB DDR3 64bit Single Slot, Low Profile 02G-P3-2713-KR
[www.amazon.com]

XFX Radeon R5 220 625MHz 2GB DDR3 Low Profile Ready HDMI DVI VGA PCI Express Graphics Card R5-220A-2QHR
[www.amazon.com]

Any suggestions on something "slightly" better? $100-$150
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Re: Dell Optiplex 9010 - i7 and 16GB memory... Need "less expensive" video card for gaming. Any suggestions?
Posted by: sunfalcon
Date: April 19, 2020 09:03AM
Radeon 580 or nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 - great cards. My son has the 580 and I have the 1660. One thing, most of these cards require an additional power source - six pin connector that plugs into the video card. My Dell Optiplex 7020 did not have this connector. Thus, I had to purchase an adapter that took two of the serial drive connectors and turned it into one six pin connector I could use on the video card. Everything works fine! Good luck!
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Re: Dell Optiplex 9010 - i7 and 16GB memory... Need "less expensive" video card for gaming. Any suggestions?
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: April 19, 2020 10:47AM
GTX 1050 Ti is substantially better than the GT 710, and can be had for as low as $140.

Comparison here.



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Re: Dell Optiplex 9010 - i7 and 16GB memory... Need "less expensive" video card for gaming. Any suggestions?
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: April 19, 2020 10:50AM
Yesterday I recommended fairly close to the same cards that sunfalcon suggested.
[forums.macresource.com]

Please be aware that AMD will be upgrading their video card line pretty soon and the average price of the RX-580 will likely drop 30%. The manufacturing process of the new AMD Radeon Pro Vega II in the new Mac Pro should be spreading through the product line with faster RAM.



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Re: Dell Optiplex 9010 - i7 and 16GB memory... Need "less expensive" video card for gaming. Any suggestions?
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: April 19, 2020 10:57AM
Comparison of 1050Ti and RX 580 here.

The ATI RX 580 mentioned by others is only $10 - $20 more than the Nvidia 1050Ti I recommended, but is substantially faster.

The ATI RX 580 is also substantially cheaper than the NVidia GTX 1660, although somewhat slower (comparison here)

It seems the ATI RX 580 mentioned by sunfalcon and Filliam H. Muffman should just about fit your budget, and provide the performance you need.



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Re: Dell Optiplex 9010 - i7 and 16GB memory... Need "less expensive" video card for gaming. Any suggestions?
Posted by: spacescape
Date: April 19, 2020 12:22PM
Which ATI RX 580 are you guys recommending? So, these need additional power or a 6 pin connector?
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Re: Dell Optiplex 9010 - i7 and 16GB memory... Need "less expensive" video card for gaming. Any suggestions?
Posted by: sunfalcon
Date: April 19, 2020 12:35PM
Since I have an enclosed Dell XPS 8930, I got the standard Radeon with the blower out the back so the case stays cooler. If you google Radeon 580 power connector you will see that it's an 8-pin connector. If your PS does not have one, you can get adapters. The 1660 GTX runs on less watts than the 580 if that is an issue.
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Re: Dell Optiplex 9010 - i7 and 16GB memory... Need "less expensive" video card for gaming. Any suggestions?
Posted by: sunfalcon
Date: April 19, 2020 12:38PM
This is the Radeon I have - got it used for around $150 on ebay:
[www.amazon.com]

This is the 1660 GTX I have:
[www.dell.com]

You should be able to find them used in the $150-175 range on ebay and other sites.



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Re: Dell Optiplex 9010 - i7 and 16GB memory... Need "less expensive" video card for gaming. Any suggestions?
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: April 19, 2020 04:51PM
Hmm, it looks like you might be really limited by the power supply based on the specs on the Dell site. I had not realized they were so anemic compared to even a basic gaming PC.

This looks like the best tradeoff in power versus performance. Low power/low profile GTX-1050 Ti.
www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-gv-n105toc-4gl/p/N82E16814125952?Item=N82E16814125952




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Re: Dell Optiplex 9010 - i7 and 16GB memory... Need "less expensive" video card for gaming. Any suggestions?
Posted by: spacescape
Date: April 20, 2020 08:40AM
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Filliam H. Muffman
Hmm, it looks like you might be really limited by the power supply based on the specs on the Dell site. I had not realized they were so anemic compared to even a basic gaming PC.

This looks like the best tradeoff in power versus performance. Low power/low profile GTX-1050 Ti.
www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-gv-n105toc-4gl/p/N82E16814125952?Item=N82E16814125952

Do you think the extra $70 is well spent on Geforce-GTX-1050? Or save the $ and grab a Gigabyte GeForce GT 1030 GV-N1030D5-2GL Low Profile 2G Computer Graphics Card? $90.00???

[www.amazon.com]

I'm thinking the 1050 will keep him happy for awhile with the extra 2GB memory.
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Re: Dell Optiplex 9010 - i7 and 16GB memory... Need "less expensive" video card for gaming. Any suggestions?
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: April 20, 2020 09:03AM
I’ve had both the GT1030 and GTX1050 Ti. The latter is far more useful for gaming, and worth the extra bucks.



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Re: Dell Optiplex 9010 - i7 and 16GB memory... Need "less expensive" video card for gaming. Any suggestions?
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: April 20, 2020 11:54AM
tl;dr: I've done this with a Nvidia 1050Ti. Optiplex 9010 MT i7, 8GB memory.


This *all* depends on the power supply. I would not even entertain the idea of using an HDD to 6-pin or 8-pin connector. These cheap OEM power supplies are simply not built to handle that kind of power draw. If you want to replace the PS, do your homework as you may need custom adapter cables to the Dell Mobo. IMO not worth the $ on an old used machine.

The RX580 is out, don't even think about it as it takes too much power. IMO same goes for the 1660, though it's considerably more power efficient (I own a 1660 Super in a gaming PC).

In reality if you are spending on adding a card into an older system like this, you want a slot-power card only, no extra connectors. Here are those cards:

Nvidia 1650 (*not* 1650 Super as it's not a slot-power model)
Nvidia 1050Ti
Nvidia 1050
Nvidia 1030
Nvidia 750Ti
AMD RX 560
AMD RX 460

Not all 1650s and 1050Tis are slot power only! Some have an additional power cable to enable higher power draw and performance. Do your homework to avoid those models.

The 1650 is best, but pricey.
The 1050Ti is almost as pricey and somewhat slower than the 1650.
The 1050 can come in at a cheaper price and trails the 1050Ti.
The 1030 is notably slower but sips power. *avoid the DDR3 version*
The 750Ti is a much older model and sits between the 1050 and 1030.
The 560 sits between the 1030 and 1050 in performance
The 460 is just below the 560, still above the 1030

IMO a used 1050 or 1050Ti from eBay is a great match for this machine. I have no personal familiarity with the AMD GPUs, just where they fit in this hierarchy of slot power GPUs.



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Re: Dell Optiplex 9010 - i7 and 16GB memory... Need "less expensive" video card for gaming. Any suggestions?
Posted by: spacescape
Date: April 20, 2020 02:20PM
Thanks for everyone's input. I decided on the GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1050 Ti OC Low Profile 4GB Video Card, GV-N105TOC-4GL from newegg.com ... The machine is really pretty quick just needed a better video card.

[www.newegg.com]
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Re: Dell Optiplex 9010 - i7 and 16GB memory... Need "less expensive" video card for gaming. Any suggestions?
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: April 20, 2020 02:30PM
Great choice! Enjoy!
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Re: Dell Optiplex 9010 - i7 and 16GB memory... Need "less expensive" video card for gaming. Any suggestions?
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: April 20, 2020 02:30PM
Good luck. Please let us know how it works.



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Re: Dell Optiplex 9010 - i7 and 16GB memory... Need "less expensive" video card for gaming. Any suggestions?
Posted by: spacescape
Date: April 20, 2020 02:33PM
Will do. Looks like even if we get a better computer we can sell the video card and get some $$$$ back. Just trying to keep the wife and kids happy while being "locked down".
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Re: Dell Optiplex 9010 - i7 and 16GB memory... Need "less expensive" video card for gaming. Any suggestions?
Posted by: sunfalcon
Date: April 20, 2020 03:30PM
That will be a nice machine!!
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Re: Dell Optiplex 9010 - i7 and 16GB memory... Need "less expensive" video card for gaming. Any suggestions?
Posted by: spacescape
Date: April 23, 2020 02:04PM
Wow, the GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1050 Ti really woke up that computer!!! His buddy was teasing him that "you can't play games on a desktop computer". Probably his father said that... ha ha. Explained to my son that this is an i7 with 16GB of memory used in our engineering department. Just needed to wake up a little bit. This was not a cheap computer when we ordered it. Wasn't for gaming... But, now it is.

Oh, and I downloaded the drivers from Nvidia versus the drivers from Gigabyte. Do you guys agree with that?

Thanks!!!
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Re: Dell Optiplex 9010 - i7 and 16GB memory... Need "less expensive" video card for gaming. Any suggestions?
Posted by: sunfalcon
Date: April 23, 2020 03:05PM
I'd use the drivers directly from nVidia. Have fun fraggin'!!
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