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alkaline batts
Posted by: Fritz
Date: May 04, 2020 09:55AM
between quar and the fact that many "pro" TVtronics now use proprietary batts, I'm in the market for AA and AAA.

I have only had Duracell coppers the last 20 years.
Any opinions on whether there is a real difference between them and bulk batts like Beezee batts or Kirkland or ...
The bulk batts are often 1/2 the price or less.
24 Dura AAA $16.
24 Anker AAA $7.
36 Basics AAA $10.

Nothing mission critical. Remotes. BT keyboards. blah, blah, blah.

I think I answered my own question.



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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: May 04, 2020 09:57AM
.....so you just batt(s)....arang..........ed....??



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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: Fritz
Date: May 04, 2020 10:00AM
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.....so you just batt(s)....arang..........ed....??

is it 6pm where you are?



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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: May 04, 2020 10:35AM
Project Farm tested Alkaline AA batteries over a year ago. About 7 minutes if you speed it up.

Which AA Battery is Best? Can Amazon Basics beat Energizer? Let's find out!•Dec 10, 2018
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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: Fritz
Date: May 04, 2020 10:46AM
thanks for the link. pretty interesting.
Amazon it is.
1/3 more gas for 2x the $, not worth it for these purposes.
Too bad he didn't check the Ankers, but they may be new to the show.



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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: freeradical
Date: May 04, 2020 10:51AM
What's "quar"?
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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: Fritz
Date: May 04, 2020 10:52AM
quarantine. I'm very keyboard lazy. Very.



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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: May 04, 2020 10:52AM
I prefer the Hillerich & Bradley Louisville Sluggers.
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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: freeradical
Date: May 04, 2020 10:55AM
I don't put alkaline batteries into remotes anymore. They leak too much.

I use lithium batteries for remotes.

The only thing I use alkaline batteries in anymore is a metronome that takes a nine volt battery. It's an inexpensive device that needs a new battery fairly often, and it's' not worth spending $8-10 on lithium batteries for it.
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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: Fritz
Date: May 04, 2020 11:04AM
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I don't put alkaline batteries into remotes anymore. They leak too much.

I'd agree with that, but at those prices, I'll put a reminder in the calendar and put in new every year instead of waiting for the fail.



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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: May 04, 2020 11:05AM
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I don't put alkaline batteries into remotes anymore. They leak too much.

This. I'm done with alkalines leaking inside everything.

I use Eneloops and the various no-name knockoffs from Amazon, Tenergy, Apple, etc.
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Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: May 04, 2020 11:07AM
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I don't put alkaline batteries into remotes anymore. They leak too much.



....so they are like senior citizens.......???



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Posted by: Racer X
Date: May 04, 2020 11:18AM
Kirkland Signature have a real leakage problem. One of the very few time a KS product is a bad choice.



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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: Buzz
Date: May 04, 2020 11:21AM
Best battery ever, for a day anyway, Larsen-Berra Model 56.
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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: May 04, 2020 11:31AM
For AA/AAA:

eneloops for rechargeable applications, Energizer Lithium for all the rest.

no worries about losing your device to a leaking alkaline battery with the above.
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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: Fritz
Date: May 04, 2020 11:32AM
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Kirkland Signature have a real leakage problem. One of the very few time a KS product is a bad choice.

my experience as well.



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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: Buzz
Date: May 04, 2020 11:43AM
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I prefer the Hillerich & Bradley Louisville Sluggers.

Best battery with a Louisville Slugger, was part of a heated/hated bi-coastal rivalry, was Marichal-Roseboro Model 65.
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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: hal
Date: May 04, 2020 11:46AM
ALL alkaline batteries are garbage imo...

Duracell USED to be the good stuff, but they are just relabeling the cheap garbage too these days. It's Li or nothing for me now. Haven't bought Alk batts in at least 15 years and don't miss them.

Plus they are so damned toxic not t good thing to throw away...
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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: Markintosh
Date: May 04, 2020 11:47AM
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Fritz
quarantine. I'm very keyboard lazy. Very.

I just thought you were running out of batteries...

(I'll be here all week!)



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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: Fritz
Date: May 04, 2020 11:56AM
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ALL alkaline batteries are garbage imo...

Plus they are so damned toxic not t good thing to throw away...

I'd agree, but all batts are toxic for trash.
He77, everything we make is toxic in one way or another.



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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: Fritz
Date: May 04, 2020 11:57AM
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(I'll be here all week!)

you'll be here (wherever that is ) for longer than a week, mate.



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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: May 04, 2020 12:02PM
I was using AmazonBasics but found Ray-O-Vac to be cheaper and longer lasting.



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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: testcase
Date: May 04, 2020 12:07PM
Duracell has excellent Customer Service. When a Maglight flashlight was damaged after Coppertops leaked, I got a check that covered replacement costs and, coupons for twice the number of batteries. NOTE: I did have to send the Maglight back to Duracell (in CT) but they acted quickly.
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Posted by: space-time
Date: May 04, 2020 12:08PM
what are these "pro" TVtronics with proprietary batts?

Also you can clean Alkaline white stuff stuff with vinegar, you won't even be able to tell there was a leak. Use Q tips, vinegar, and you can save that one-of-a-kind-hard-to-find item.
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Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: May 04, 2020 12:08PM
....what about alkaline butts......???



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Posted by: Fritz
Date: May 04, 2020 12:19PM
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what are these "pro" TVtronics with proprietary batts?

Also you can clean Alkaline white stuff stuff with vinegar, you won't even be able to tell there was a leak. Use Q tips, vinegar, and you can save that one-of-a-kind-hard-to-find item.

I've done that, at times. Or steel wool depending on the item.

Comms and RF mics are all proprietary now and no 2 manufacturers use the same. They all have their own charging station and you can only buy OEM.



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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: hal
Date: May 04, 2020 12:56PM
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hal
ALL alkaline batteries are garbage imo...

Plus they are so damned toxic not t good thing to throw away...

I'd agree, but all batts are toxic for trash.
He77, everything we make is toxic in one way or another.

that's why we need to get rid of 'one use and trash it' kinda stuff
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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: JoeH
Date: May 04, 2020 03:50PM
I don't buy Duracell anymore, the last decade I have seen near 100% leakage. Though my son recently replaced the Duracell batteries in his infrequently used Maglite purchased at least a dozen years ago and they had not leaked

I have one batch of AA's from them, all but 2 never used, and the unused ones all leaked in storage. Those were bought about 5 years ago. Since I won't be getting anymore from them, not worth calling in and getting coupons for replacement.

Going back a few years ago, there were reports that you could get decent batteries from Duracell if you stuck with specific types and manufacturing locations. But that no longer seems to apply to any of their stuff.
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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: May 04, 2020 05:08PM
I don't put alkaline batteries into remotes anymore. They leak too much.

I use lithium batteries for remotes.



I use Li rechargeables too, because - well - they're rechargeable.

The copper tops were garbage years ago - decades ago.

They leaked like a sieve, and I switched back to Eveready Alkaline batteries.

They'e never leaked. Not once, in my years of using them.

It's not surprising that Kirkland batteries leak. It seems to me they're rebadged Duracells which Costco hawks.




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Posted by: jonny
Date: May 04, 2020 07:22PM
I haven't bought a disposable battery in years. Tody's rechargeables last nearly as long and save you $$$.
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Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: May 04, 2020 07:50PM
Tody's rechargeables last nearly as long and save you $$$.


That's true for AAAs and AAs.

Not so much for Cs and Ds.

Not to mention rechargeable C and D cells are just AAs in C and D clothing.

And they may not be very cost effective, as there are situation where a good alkaline or possibly carbon-zinc is more cost effective, not to mention more beneficial for the .3V difference.

I've got a lantern that uses three D (I think) cells. It sold without batteries so I put three D Eveready Energizers in it in 2016. It's for power failure use, mainly, so it's not used very often.

But even now the light is still bright, and there's no signs of leakage (which generally occurs sometime after a battery dies). So even if I bought full fledged rechargeable C or Ds, I wouldn't have got any cost benefit from them.




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Posted by: Fritz
Date: May 04, 2020 08:11PM
so it seems the general consensus, at least where AA & AAA are concerned, is rechargeable Li-ion batts.
Toss my NIMH chargers (old camera) and throw away batts and be better off over the long run as far as carbon footprint and $.



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Posted by: JoeH
Date: May 04, 2020 08:12PM
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Not to mention rechargeable C and D cells are just AAs in C and D clothing.

You can buy full size rechargeable C and D cells, they have much higher capacity. They also cost a bit. For example - [www.amazon.com].

They are 10000 mAh where an AA in a D size casing will be about a quarter of that.
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Posted by: freeradical
Date: May 04, 2020 08:19PM
I just priced some of those rechargeable lithium ion batteries.

Dang they're pricey.

I do like the fact that that they have a 1.5 volt output, with a flat discharge curve.

Kind of like those great mercury batteries of yesteryear.
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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: May 04, 2020 08:32PM
......what about......a salt....and battery....??



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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: Fritz
Date: May 04, 2020 09:06PM
Wirecutter likes this Pana charger for AA & AAA.
Other thoughts? Don't think I need to look inside the batts with a La Cross device.
I guess enelopes for the batts?



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Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: May 04, 2020 10:10PM
I guess enelopes for the batts?


I got that charger with eight eneloops included, at Costco maybe.

It works fine.

I tried some Tenergy AAs but they didn't seem to last any longer than eneloops.

They took noticeably longer to charge, which given their higher capacity, makes sense. They just don't seem to last much if any longer than eneloops.

There are also Powerex batteries, which a lot of photgraphers like because if their high capacity.

I don't think Tenergy or Powerex batteries are low discharge batteries.

That would give eneloops an edge in seldom used appliances.




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Re: alkaline batts
Posted by: Robert M
Date: May 05, 2020 09:39AM
Hi everyone,

There is a time and place for various types of batteries. Alkaline bats still offer solid bang for the buck and you should always have some on hand for various applications. This is especially true for smoke and carbon monoxide detectors that still use them. If the manufacturer of the smoke or carbon monoxide detector says to use alkaline bats, use them else they don't function properly and/or you void the warranty. That and I've come across devices that just don't like rechargeable batteries of any kind, primarily children's toys.

Unfortunately, alkaline bats are all pretty much the same these days. I purchase based on price and convenience, not brand. Leakage hasn't been an issue unless a given battery has been in a devices for years, i.e. 3D puzzle clock. The batteries in it leaked and they'd been installed for over a decade.

Lithium batts are very but the cost is prohibitive. Pricey enough that the performance isn't cost effective when compared to alkaline batteries. I have some on hand due to a sweet deal I found for them some time back but I won't go out of my way to buy them.

My typical battery of choice is a NiMH model. I've got tons of them and use them all regularly. Enough that I had to purchase two chargers to ensure I always have some fully charged and ready to go. I'm not a fan of Eenloop batteries. In my experience, you're paying for the name and they're no better than similar low-discharge batteries from other manufacturers, i.e. AmazonBasics, Tenargy, E.B.L. etc. For me, they perform in a similar enough manner that I purchased based on price, aAh and availability. I keep AAA, AA, C, D and 9-volt NiMH batteries on hand. Enough on hand and ready to go that it generally doesn't really matter how long they last unless one discharges exceptionally quickly. In that case, it's likely a defective battery and should be replaced.

I use this charger for NiMH batts:

[www.amazon.com]

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Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: May 05, 2020 10:04AM
.....this is....batt....astic......



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Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: June 10, 2020 07:00PM
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Lew Zealand
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I don't put alkaline batteries into remotes anymore. They leak too much.

This. I'm done with alkalines leaking inside everything.

I’ve never had an Eveready alkaline battery leak.

Every Duracell alkaline I’ve purchased in the last ten years (at least) has leaked.

I don’t purchase Duracell batteries anymore.



It is what it is.



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