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New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: space-time
Date: June 07, 2020 09:37AM
House has all hardwood floors, but one kid insisted on having carpet in his room (because his friend has carpet and he like to sit down on the carpet when he visits his friend). he's a good kid and wife approve. Carpet is installed (we made sure it can be removed without major damage to the hardwood floors).

Anyway, I need to cut about 1/2" from the bottom of the door to close smooth. I don't have any tools, but I am willing to buy something, I think it will come in handy for other projects at some point.

Do I need one of those "table style" saws? I hope not, it's too large (and expensive). I think one of those hand saw, I could align a 2x4 at the edge of the door, clamp it down to the door, and use it as guide. I can probably lay the door flat on the edge of a the deck during this operation.

I have some Bosch 12V drill and drivers, so I could probably benefit from using the same brand to share batteries. but that's not a must.

EDIT: actually I could use a corded tool, would this $50 tool cut deep enough to cut a door?

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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: June 07, 2020 09:43AM
Something like that would do it. If it were me, I'd buy a nice Freud or Makita, similar to this one I bought for my miter saw: [www.amazon.com]

You might be fine with the stock blade, but they tend to make rough cuts, which then would call for additional sanding, etc.

Also, be aware that most doors have hollow cars, with some solid wood around the edges for rigidity. Cutting off .5 inch should be fine....
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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: fromish
Date: June 07, 2020 09:50AM
One thing to consider is taking steps for a smooth edge.

To get a good, smooth edge without tearout, splinters, etc, first mark the cut with a pencil on top, bottom and sides. Next, use a new razor knife blade to cut along those pencil lines. For the first cut, guided by a straight edge, mark lightly. Then mark more and more heavily, again on top, bottom and sides. Then put good quality masking tape (blue 3m or green Frog tape) over the cuts, Rub the tape so you can see the line you cut, then mark the tape with a pencil.

Now when you cut with the circular saw you will get a much, much smoother, more finished cut, especially on the surface veneer skin of the door.
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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: MikeF
Date: June 07, 2020 09:54AM
Yes, that saw will work. I would replace the blade with this one:
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Note: A 2x4 will not probably fit under the motor on the side to use as a straight edge; you will probably need a 1x4 to do that.
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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: June 07, 2020 10:17AM
......and make sure the carpet.....matches the drapes....



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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: deckeda
Date: June 07, 2020 10:25AM
Not quite sure what you mean by having to trim the wood. I think they make dedicated saws for trimming around doors however.

Check out pawnshops for one-off jobs.

Is the carpet already down? The kid missed an opportunity to skip the carpet and just get an awesome rug instead. Swap it out every year when bored or ratty. And after the kid’s outgrown the idea, there’s your wood floor again.
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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: jdc
Date: June 07, 2020 10:30AM
Yep that saw is fine. Key is the tape which prevents splintering.

If you have used a saw like that before or are semi handy — keeping the saw straight while following a line should be fine. Like Mike mentioned Problem with clamps or using a 1x4 board is they get in the way of the saw motor when cutting. You can buy clamps specific for this use but not super cheap

I would get a very very very fine sanding sponge to smooth the edges.

Although the door might be hollow, many have 1-2” of solid at the top and bottom for the exact purpose of being able to cut doors shorter.

Just did this a week ago with 4 closet doors. Measured. Taped. Measured and drew line on tape. Cut. Peel tape. One pass Sand On edge



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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: Robert M
Date: June 07, 2020 11:30AM
Space,

Your kid is lucky. If it was mine, I'd've said no. Carpeting isn't allowed in our place for a slew of reasons. I'd've never say yes carpeting if it required modifying a door. Never. Area rugs, playmats, and floor coverings such as FLOR carpet tiles are excellent alternatives to carpeting.

Any chance you can return the carpeting and put down an alternative floor covering? I'd do that before modifying the door and definitely if I had to buy a tool to modify said door.

Robert



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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: June 07, 2020 11:33AM
....so you will be 'cutting the rug'.......more often now.....??



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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: Cary
Date: June 07, 2020 12:00PM
Is the door hollow core of solid wood?

The circular saw you showed is fine for that job. As has been mentioned, the blade shown is for rough finish. You should get a fiber (more teeth) blade. How many teeth? Depends on what type of door it is.

A 1x4 should be ok as a straight edge, but you may want to buy an aluminum straight edge/ruler - 3 or 4 foot - guaranteed to be straight, and can be used for other things, and they are inexpensive. You'll need a couple of clamps. Irwin makes good ones. If the motor does not clear, then around and cut from the other direction.

He sure to measure from the show (base plate) edge to the edge of the blades you know how much to offset the straight edge.

Taking the cut can help prevent wood splintering - a bigger problem on hollow doors or with rough cut blades.
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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: June 07, 2020 12:08PM
As others have said, get a blade made for the cut you need to do on your door. The blade in the pic is not a finish blade.

A half inch trim would be fine as others have stated, there is a wood frame in a hollow door. Take the door off by popping out the pins on the hinges. Much easier to deal with than unscrewing the hinges from the door.



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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: June 07, 2020 12:45PM
check out Craigslist for a used saw, you'll save a great deal.



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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: Michael
Date: June 07, 2020 01:12PM
What everybody else said...

If you already have clamps then using a 1x4 or 2x4 would be fine. But, if you have to buy clamps, you might buy this instead:

[www.harborfreight.com]

If you have a Harbor Freight near you, of course. The 20% coupons that are all over the place would make it cost a bit over $18. I find it easier to make a square cut with it rather than 2 clamps and a board.
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Posted by: jimmy d
Date: June 07, 2020 02:05PM
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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: June 07, 2020 02:13PM
....shag............carpeting.....???



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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: jdc
Date: June 07, 2020 02:28PM
Michael s clamp is the exact thing u would use. Wood is too big.



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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: Speedy
Date: June 07, 2020 05:34PM
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jdc
Michael s clamp is the exact thing u would use. Wood is too big.

And a 1x4 isn’t going to be straight although it will be straight enough. But it is still unwieldy to cut a door using a 1x4.



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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: Racer X
Date: June 07, 2020 09:02PM
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What everybody else said...

If you already have clamps then using a 1x4 or 2x4 would be fine. But, if you have to buy clamps, you might buy this instead:

[www.harborfreight.com]

If you have a Harbor Freight near you, of course. The 20% coupons that are all over the place would make it cost a bit over $18. I find it easier to make a square cut with it rather than 2 clamps and a board.

My suggestion too.

They are $14.99 in the June coupon book. If you want the electronic version, PM me your e-mail, and I will forward it to you. They can scan the coupon from your smartphone screen. Just an option.



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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: space-time
Date: June 08, 2020 05:53AM
Thanks.

Carpet is installed, no way I rip it out. Our family, our house, our rules, LOL

Noted that I need a better blade. At least I got the right tool.

Noted that I need to use tape to prevent splinter. And I plan to sand the edges to apply a small chamfer.

Noted that I need a straight edge tool. Will shop at Amazon for something similar. No way I go to a Harbor Freight right now.

Already knew to take pins out, not way I unscrew the hinges.

Thanks folks!
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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: Thrift Store Scott
Date: June 08, 2020 05:55AM
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Is the door hollow core or solid wood?

That was my question since it wasn't stated and most of the advice offered is for hollow core doors.



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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: space-time
Date: June 08, 2020 10:06AM
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Is the door hollow core or solid wood?

That was my question since it wasn't stated and most of the advice offered is for hollow core doors.

I don't know yet (we didn't move in yet, so I cannot check right now, I can check later tonight).

Even if it is hollow core, I assume there is a solid piece of wood at the bottom.

Suppose there was a solid piece of wood, how would that make cutting any different?

And if I end up with a hole after I cut the door, I plan to insert and glue some wood in there anyway. Assuming I find the right material.
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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: June 08, 2020 10:08AM
....remember don't munch....the carpet......



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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: Thrift Store Scott
Date: June 08, 2020 10:32AM
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Is the door hollow core or solid wood?

That was my question since it wasn't stated and most of the advice offered is for hollow core doors.

I don't know yet (we didn't move in yet, so I cannot check right now, I can check later tonight).

Even if it is hollow core, I assume there is a solid piece of wood at the bottom.

Suppose there was a solid piece of wood, how would that make cutting any different?

And if I end up with a hole after I cut the door, I plan to insert and glue some wood in there anyway. Assuming I find the right material.

You're correct about hollow core doors having solid wood on the top and bottom as well as both sides. I meant as opposed to all-solid panel doors, which are usually made of considerably harder wood if not actual "hardwood", such as are found in older homes up to about the 1940s or so.



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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: space-time
Date: June 08, 2020 11:41AM
OK so a hardwood would be more difficult to cut. House is 1988, I bet is hollow core.
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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: June 08, 2020 11:47AM
If it was a solid wood door, you'd know it the first time it was slammed... the whole house would shake.
Even foam-core doors have a wide strip of wood at the bottom for "trimming"... as long as you're not "trimming" more than an inch or two, you should be good.



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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: Cary
Date: June 08, 2020 05:36PM
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OK so a hardwood would be more difficult to cut. House is 1988, I bet is hollow core.

Hardwood is actually easier to cut - it won't splinter as easily. Most hollow core doors use a masonite or fiber board skin that splinter badly - need to take more care and score the skin and cut on the waste side of the cut.

House being built in 1988 does not determine whether doors are hollow or solid core.

If it's hollow core, and if you cut off enough that there is no filler left on the bottom, just strip off the face and reuse the filler that you just cut off - use some carpenter's glue and clamp the faces to the filler.
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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: Racer X
Date: June 09, 2020 01:13AM
Solid doors make a far better fire break.



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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: June 09, 2020 09:36AM
......just make sure one is on an official 'break'.....before dating someone else.....it might cause issues.....



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Re: New carpet installed. Now I need to cut the door
Posted by: Carm
Date: June 09, 2020 08:30PM
From experience, the bottom of the door has 2-3 inches of wood for stability/trimming. If you do cut to much, you can always fill the void with the bottom piece that was cut out, just remove the particle board from both sides.
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