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Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: June 22, 2020 05:08PM
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Can you run Big Sur right now if you needed to?




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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/22/2020 05:27PM by pRICE cUBE.
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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: hal
Date: June 22, 2020 05:23PM
I'm afraid hat I have zero macs that are NOT compatible.

2017 iMac
2013 MBPR 13
2015 MBA 11
2018 Mac MIni

I'm anxious to move on from 10.14 on my imac - I'm 64-bit compliant now, but don't see any reason to upgrade to Catalina.

The mini will stay on 10.14 for some time. The laptops don't matter much either way. I should sell one of them...
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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: Buzz
Date: June 22, 2020 05:23PM
cMP X2, Mini X2, MBP X3, Pismo, G3'ed PM7300.... all No!

Time to start saving for a new iMac.
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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: June 22, 2020 05:25PM
MacBook
2015 and later

MacBook Air
2013 and later

MacBook Pro
Late 2013 and later

Mac mini
2014 and later

iMac
2014 and later

iMac Pro
2017 and later
(all models)


2013 iMac; 2009, 2010, and 2102 mini - no go.

2015 iMac, 2018 mini - yay!




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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: Grumpyguy
Date: June 22, 2020 05:25PM
2014 Mac mini will run it.

Really need to replace my 2008 MBP. 12 years and still does everything I need it to, but of course it is stuck on an old MacOS....



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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: June 22, 2020 05:31PM
......can't even swim........



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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: Rolando
Date: June 22, 2020 05:35PM
Looks like mine Mid 2012 MacBook Pro has been left behind! Then again, I decided to stay on Mojave, so I'm not missing much.



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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: ADent
Date: June 22, 2020 05:43PM
I assume there will be a hack to get it running on my 2012 MBPro, if I really want it. At Mojave for now.
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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: June 22, 2020 05:45PM
Nope!

3 iMacs in the house, all around 2010 era.

They're all long in the tooth, one with a failed internal drive that my Pop uses with an external.

His needs are minimal, but I suspect I will be upgrading the other two sometime in the near future.

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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: June 22, 2020 05:46PM
.....not even the doggy paddle......



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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: June 22, 2020 06:18PM
keep an eye on dosdude1.
Lots of folks running Mojave & Catalina when Apple said it was a no go!

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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: timg
Date: June 22, 2020 06:23PM
nothing I have can run Big Sur ... 2009 Mac Pro and a 2009 Macbook Pro. They can't even run Catalina!

Apple lost me as a customer with the trash can MacPro.



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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: June 22, 2020 06:36PM
....can't surf either.......



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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: btfc
Date: June 22, 2020 07:23PM
Hang Ten!
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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: Spiff
Date: June 22, 2020 07:30PM
2 MBP in da house. One MP 2009. I’ll pass right now.

What is considered the most stable since Sierra?
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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: June 22, 2020 07:38PM
Voted Yes.

Yes:
2013 15" MBPro
2014 Mac Mini

No:
2009 15" MBPro
2011 Mac Mini
2011 11" MBAir
2011 15" MBPro
2012 Mac Mini
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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: sekker
Date: June 22, 2020 08:16PM
I have a 2018 Mac that will not EVER run Big Sur while it's a main machine, it's going to happily live in the Mojave 32bit desert.

My work machines will likely stick to Catalina for years.
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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: June 22, 2020 08:42PM
Big Sur compatibility:
Mac Plus - nope
SE/30 x 9 - nope
IIfx x 2 - nope
Powerbook G3 Wallstreet x 2 - nope
Powerbook G3 Lombard - nope
iBook G3 - nope
PM9500 MB and PSU w/o a case - nope
PM8600 - nope
PM9600 - nope
15” TiBook x 18 - nope
15” AlBook x 3 - nope
17” AlBook x 7- nope
MDD G4 x 2 - nope
MacBook 2007 - nope
MacBook 2009 x 2 - nope
MacBook Pro 2017 - BINGO!

Out of about 53 Macs, fewer than 2% are compatible with Big Sur.
Boo, Apple!

Edit: I think I have a problem.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/22/2020 08:58PM by S. Pupp.
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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: June 22, 2020 08:52PM
....Sur.....yes......sur....



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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: June 22, 2020 08:57PM
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S. Pupp

15” TiBook x 18 - nope

Perchance, what is your functional-to-nonfunctional hinge ratio?
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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: June 22, 2020 08:58PM
Time for an intervention?

Quote
S. Pupp
Big Sur compatibility:
Mac Plus - nope
SE/30 x 9 - nope
IIfx x 2 - nope
Powerbook G3 Wallstreet x 2 - nope
Powerbook G3 Lombard - nope
iBook G3 - nope
PM9500 MB and PSU w/o a case - nope
PM8600 - nope
PM9600 - nope
15” TiBook x 18 - nope
15” AlBook x 3 - nope
17” AlBook x 7- nope
MDD G4 x 2 - nope
MacBook 2007 - nope
MacBook 2009 x 2 - nope
MacBook Pro 2017 - BINGO!

Out of about 53 Macs, fewer than 2% are compatible with Big Sur.

Edit: I think I have a problem.
Boo, Apple!



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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: June 22, 2020 09:19PM
Hold off for another two years and you can get one of the new $1000 ARM Macs. Sorry, left off a zero for the ARM based Mac Pro.

Even though most knew it was coming in their hearts, I wonder how everybody that bought a new Mac Pro feels with their boat anchors.



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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: June 22, 2020 09:20PM
I only have one that will run it, a 2015 MBP. Right now it's on High Sierra and it's likely to stay there indefinitely.



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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: June 22, 2020 09:32PM
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Lew Zealand
Quote
S. Pupp

15” TiBook x 18 - nope

Perchance, what is your functional-to-nonfunctional hinge ratio?
Before repairs, about 50% had broken hinges. (Thanks, Jony Ive!)
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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: June 22, 2020 09:35PM
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Speedy
Time for an intervention?
Mrs Pupp says “Yes. Please, yes!”
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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: Don C
Date: June 22, 2020 11:16PM
Some volunteer work I do requires MS Excel (2011) so I'll be staying with High Sierra on my 2017 iMac and my mid 2010 MBP.

Today's Tidbits story makes the changes to Maps and Messages sound interesting but not enough to even think of changing machines.
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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: jonny
Date: June 22, 2020 11:53PM
My iMac will run it, but I’m sticking with Mojave.
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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: June 23, 2020 01:03AM
2009 and 2010 here. But I do look longingly at iMac Pros.
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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: June 23, 2020 01:53AM
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Spiff
2 MBP in da house. One MP 2009. I’ll pass right now.

What is considered the most stable since Sierra?

High Sierra is good.
Mojave... depends who you ask.
Catalina is a mess, from what I hear.

My iMac will likely go to Big Sur this fall. I may replace my Early 2011 MBP with an ARM MBP, depending on how many problems the first model out of the gate experiences.



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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: June 23, 2020 01:54AM
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mrbigstuff
2009 and 2010 here. But I do look longingly at iMac Pros.

Who doesn't? Just no way I can justify spending that kind of scratch for a non-expandable computer, though.



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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: June 23, 2020 05:30AM
Two mid 2012 MBP
One 2011 iMac

but everything is on Mojave and I'm happy.



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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: June 23, 2020 07:01AM
but everything is on Mojave and I'm happy.

Same here, 2x cMP 5,1 and a 2012 MBP.



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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: June 23, 2020 07:01AM
2011-2012 iMacs and MBPs here.

Currently on Sierra, some booting back to 10.6 to play PPC games...
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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: June 23, 2020 08:07AM
I think 10.12.6 (Sierra) is the latest OS my mid-2010 13" MBP will run. I'm running that also on my 2009 27" iMac (wife now using), and on my 2015 27" iMac. I have old applications (e.g. Office:Mac2011, Mariner Write 3.8.0, Adobe CS3) which I don't use much, but have lots of old files that need 'em).

I think of updating to 10.13 (High Sierra) on my 2015 iMac, but don't know any reason to do so. What OS was it that made 32-bit applications obsolete? Which one changes the HD formatting?

My 2015 11.6" MacBook Air, which I use when traveling, came (used) with 10.14.6 (Mojave), which does seem to run Office:Mac2011; haven't attempted the other old software. It might run the newer OSes, but is there any advantage to doing so?

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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: Robert M
Date: June 23, 2020 08:29AM
pRICE,

I thunk you're asking the wrong question. I think the question is whether or not you have any plans to run OS X Big Sur even if the machines are capable of running it. Me? No interest at all. No interest in Catalina. No interest in Big Sur. Mojave is just dandy and all of my machines run it happily and all of my software runs on it happily.

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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: June 23, 2020 08:32AM
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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: AllGold
Date: June 23, 2020 08:59AM
No.

I'm as close to compatibility as you can be while still being on the wrong side.

The two machines I use are both 2012 models, a 15" MacBook Pro and a Mac Pro.

Not that I really care about Big Sur when I'm not even running the current OS as it is.

Edit: Just for the record, I also have a few machines that are even older laying around that I never use.







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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: June 23, 2020 10:07AM
I think of updating to 10.13 (High Sierra) on my 2015 iMac, but don't know any
reason to do so. What OS was it that made 32-bit applications obsolete? Which one
changes the HD formatting?


mrlynn,
Catalina ended 32-bit.
APFS came in with High Sierra but it is not mandatory.
(I'm on Mojave and still have only GUID/HFS+ drives & use 32-bit apps).
APFS conversion is only automatic on SSD devices, not spinners.
You can install to an HDD then clone that to a SSD or NVMe SSD as HFS+.

Another method to avoid APFS requires using Terminal:
disable APFS conversion by using the installer's startosinstall utility on the command
line and passing --converttoapfs NO.

More info here



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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: June 23, 2020 02:07PM
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APFS conversion is only automatic on SSD devices, not spinners.

My MBA on Mojave has an SSD inside, so does that mean APFS? Doesn't make any difference that I know of. Still runs 32-bit apps, anyway.

/Mr Lynn
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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: June 23, 2020 02:36PM
I have a 2014 Mac mini. It can go to Big Sur.

A little upset that my 2012 server can't run the new OS, but I'm inclined not to upgrade it past 10.13 anyway, due to the problems with the Server app in 10.14/10.15.



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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: June 23, 2020 02:48PM
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mrlynn
...
My MBA on Mojave has an SSD inside, so does that mean APFS? Doesn't make any difference that I know of. Still runs 32-bit apps, anyway.
/Mr Lynn

Open System Information, in the left column click on SATA/SAS Express
(or NVMExpress if so equipped).
On the right, you'll see the drive info, like so (this is a HFS+ SSD):

SATA SSD:

  Capacity:	1.02 TB (1,024,209,543,168 bytes)
  Model:	SATA SSD                                
  Revision:	SBFM61.3
  Serial Number:	19013110240143
  Native Command Queuing:	Yes
  Queue Depth:	32
  Removable Media:	No
  Detachable Drive:	No
  BSD Name:	disk1
  Medium Type:	Solid State
  TRIM Support:	No
  Partition Map Type:	GPT (GUID Partition Table)
  S.M.A.R.T. status:	Verified
  Volumes:
...
 File System:	Journaled HFS+
...
You should not see " File System: Journaled HFS+" unless the previous owner used
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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: Altered Horizons
Date: June 23, 2020 04:38PM
Neither of my Macs (2009 MBP & 2010 Mac mini) are capable of running Big Sur. Both of my Hacintoshes should be able to run it, but I’m not taking them past Sierra.



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Re: Anyone else own zero Macs that can run Big Sur?
Posted by: fauch
Date: July 01, 2020 07:49PM
I don't even know. I have an i5 Haswell Hackintosh. I assume it can run it but I'm still on Mavericks because I have been too lazy to upgrade and frankly I haven't run into any issues (except for constantly getting locked out of iMessage and having to change my Apple ID password because Apple gets mad, but I turned that off. I barely use iMessage anyway). Maybe 2 or 3 apps that won't work...
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