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Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: Randalls
Date: July 12, 2020 10:44AM
A friend is trying to upgrade and was wondering if photogs on the forum could help out. She is trying for a PRO quality at a budget of around $2K if this is possible. Please see the following-

“ Looking for recommendations for a new camera. Currently have a Nikon D3100 - open to staying with Nikon or exploring other brands. Have browsed Fujifilm. Thoughts? I’ve done so much research at this point I feel lost in my decision and would like some opinions from those who own and regularly use their cameras. Would primarily be used for landscape, architecture, people, art/murals. Current most used lenses AF-P NIKKOR 70-300mm and NIKKOR 50mm“

Any help appreciated
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Re: Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: vision63
Date: July 12, 2020 04:00PM
I'd recommend the Nikon Z50 since you have Nikon glass. You'd need the FTZ adapter to use your existing F'Mount lenses. Adorama's kits [www.adorama.com]

I really enjoy my Z6, which is full frame. I do recommend the kit lens + FTZ adapter. It's a bit beyond your budget though: Adorama's wares: [www.adorama.com]
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Re: Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: AllGold
Date: July 12, 2020 06:33PM
I would stick to Nikon, Canon or Sony. I don't know enough about Fujifilm to really say, but I don't know any pros who use it.

Sony is probably beyond the budget. I shoot Canon and probably should defer the Nikon advice to someone else.



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Re: Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: July 12, 2020 07:04PM
IIRC, the D3100 is an APS-C sensor camera. Are the lenses full frame or APS-C? If the former, she could go with a full frame camera or crop sensor. If the later, she's pretty much stuck with a crop sensor unless she's upgrading lenses as well.

Then the question is, what is the quality of her lenses? If they're good or better glass, then probably stick with Nikon. If they're kit lenses, she'll probably need to upgrade those in order to get the benefit of a better camera. Cost goes up, but then she should consider Sony or Canon.

I would avoid Olympus (future unknown) and Pentax may face a similar fate soon. There's also some concern about the longterm viability of Nikon.
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Re: Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: AllGold
Date: July 12, 2020 07:12PM
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macphanatic
IIRC, the D3100 is an APS-C sensor camera. Are the lenses full frame or APS-C? If the former, she could go with a full frame camera or crop sensor. If the later, she's pretty much stuck with a crop sensor unless she's upgrading lenses as well.

The lenses listed in the O.P. are full frame.



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Re: Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: July 12, 2020 07:19PM
What makes the pro-camera "better" is reliability under the worse of conditions. Few amateurs will ever face those conditions on a regular basis (if ever). So I suggest she save her money on the body and spend it for good quality glass. The last generation (or even two generations back) mid-range body with good glass will outperform a top-level body with mediocre glass.

A talented photographer with an entry-level body and a kit lens will outproduce both. It is the eye, not the equipment.



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-- François de La Rochefoucauld



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/12/2020 07:25PM by Ombligo.
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Re: Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: Randalls
Date: July 12, 2020 10:05PM
OK. Thanks for the advice everyone.
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Re: Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: vision63
Date: July 13, 2020 12:45AM
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Ombligo
What makes the pro-camera "better" is reliability under the worse of conditions. Few amateurs will ever face those conditions on a regular basis (if ever). So I suggest she save her money on the body and spend it for good quality glass. The last generation (or even two generations back) mid-range body with good glass will outperform a top-level body with mediocre glass.

A talented photographer with an entry-level body and a kit lens will outproduce both. It is the eye, not the equipment.

This is true. All of these modern cameras are really good.
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Re: Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: July 13, 2020 03:07AM
Many directions on could go. Since the two lenses mentioned are full frame, one could get into a used D800 for about $500-600. The sensors is a few years old but still one of the top performing sensors out there. The 36mp sensor should give plenty of resolution for landscapes and have overhead for cropping. That leaves plenty of money left for an ultra wide zooms or a Tamron 150-600mm for nature close ups.



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Re: Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: July 13, 2020 09:30AM
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pRICE cUBE
Many directions on could go. Since the two lenses mentioned are full frame, one could get into a used D800 for about $500-600. The sensors is a few years old but still one of the top performing sensors out there. The 36mp sensor should give plenty of resolution for landscapes and have overhead for cropping. That leaves plenty of money left for an ultra wide zooms or a Tamron 150-600mm for nature close ups.

That Tamron has gotten really good reviews.
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Re: Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: Randalls
Date: July 13, 2020 01:00PM
Thank you for that advice as well
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Re: Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: July 13, 2020 03:22PM
A friend uses a 7200 I believe and his photos are super. A great deal is the photographer. She could use any of her existing lenses on that.
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Re: Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: Randalls
Date: July 13, 2020 04:12PM
Different thread, but where Do YOU prefer to look for a quality used camera? B&H, KEH, Craigslist?
And where would you draw the line (ball park guesstimate) on shutter clicks?
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Re: Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: Randalls
Date: July 13, 2020 04:32PM
I like the 2 SD slots for the D7200, 2 user custom settings and Stereo Mic and headphone jack.
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Re: Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: vision63
Date: July 13, 2020 07:23PM
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pRICE cUBE
Many directions on could go. Since the two lenses mentioned are full frame, one could get into a used D800 for about $500-600. The sensors is a few years old but still one of the top performing sensors out there. The 36mp sensor should give plenty of resolution for landscapes and have overhead for cropping. That leaves plenty of money left for an ultra wide zooms or a Tamron 150-600mm for nature close ups.

That's a great way to go.
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Re: Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: July 13, 2020 09:55PM
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macphanatic
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pRICE cUBE
Many directions on could go. Since the two lenses mentioned are full frame, one could get into a used D800 for about $500-600. The sensors is a few years old but still one of the top performing sensors out there. The 36mp sensor should give plenty of resolution for landscapes and have overhead for cropping. That leaves plenty of money left for an ultra wide zooms or a Tamron 150-600mm for nature close ups.

That Tamron has gotten really good reviews.


I own the version 1 and am thrilled with it. The gen 2 version is suppose to be even better.



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Re: Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: July 14, 2020 01:58AM
As far as used cameras go, if you can find one under 30k clicks, that is probably pretty good. Definitely stay away from any that are past 150k.

I think I am at 100k for each of my D800 and they seem to be holding up well.

The Nikon D600/610 are going to be slightly less but the D800 price is the most features per dollar in comparison. The D810 basically adds 1 fps for 5 fps instead of 4fps. I use my D800 for portraits with probes so the 4fps hasn't been an issue.

The interesting thing about the $2k budget is the ability to buy 2 D800 and not have to switch lenses so much. One would still have money left over for lenses.



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Re: Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: Sam3
Date: July 14, 2020 05:23AM
Why not go mirrorless at this point? If she has Nikon glass, then the Z5 or Z6 with the adapter would be a nice full-frame upgrade. The Z50 would be less, but then why upgrade as you are still working with a APS-C sized sensor?

I shoot Canon, but almost jumped brands last year to FujiFilm as I like their old-school retro knobs, where I can change the primary three settings of aperture shutter speed and ISO without needing to go into menus, like on film cameras. But then Canon released their R-series, and I fell in love with the RP. I have since moved to the R, but actually prefer the way the RP felt. With the adapter, I have full use of all the EF lenses. I think DLSR's days are numbered.



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Re: Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: Randalls
Date: July 14, 2020 12:48PM
Good info. This will give her some guidance. Thanks again
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Re: Camera recommendation to replace/upgrade Nikon D3100
Posted by: AllGold
Date: July 14, 2020 04:54PM
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pRICE cUBE
I use my D800 for portraits with probes so the 4fps hasn't been an issue.

secret smileydunno smileysmiley-shocked003

Those would be some unusual portraits. Maybe you meant strobes? ROTFL



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