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Getting HDs and SSDs into classic Mac Pro-latest brainwave
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: August 04, 2020 02:32PM
Well, my earlier efforts aren't working out the way I hoped...But there is hope!

I stumbled across the adapter linked below. I think I'm just going to pull the optical drive sled from my 2010 MP, put the optical drive into an external case, and put a couple of drives in the optical drive bay. I can get at least one HD and one SSD in there; if I can get two HDs and one SSD in there, I'm golden. And by removing the sled, I hope to be able to run the cables from the SATA III PCIe card.

I'll report back later....

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Re: Getting HDs and SSDs into classic Mac Pro-latest brainwave
Posted by: Racer X
Date: August 04, 2020 02:53PM
What SATA busses are you going to have? Similar question for my cMP 3.1



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Re: Getting HDs and SSDs into classic Mac Pro-latest brainwave
Posted by: rz
Date: August 04, 2020 02:56PM
Interesting. But where are you going to plug the third drive in? I thought there was only one extra SATA port on the motherboard. Oh, wait... I'm guessing this replaced both optical slots. Then you get two SATA ports plus the extra on the motherboard. Correct?
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Re: Getting HDs and SSDs into classic Mac Pro-latest brainwave
Posted by: AllGold
Date: August 04, 2020 03:14PM
I'm confused. Five drives is not enough?



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Re: Getting HDs and SSDs into classic Mac Pro-latest brainwave
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: August 04, 2020 03:24PM
You mean you all haven't been following my every post???(grin)

Ok, I want SATA III instead of SATA II-that means the existing bays do nothing for me (well, they provide power, but that's about it...).

I've installed a PCIe card that has 4 SATA III data ports. And there are 2 power cables in the optical drive bay that I can use to power at least two, and with a splitter probably three drives. So power isn't a problem.

But I need to get data cables from the PCI card up to the optical drive bay. There aren't any openings that I've seen that would let me do that. I may have to cut away a tiny bit of sheet metal; hopefully I'll find a workaround.

I hope that's clearer.
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Re: Getting HDs and SSDs into classic Mac Pro-latest brainwave
Posted by: Racer X
Date: August 04, 2020 03:42PM
using a y splitter for power to the two ssds will work great. Did you run across any 4 2.5" drives to 5.25 bay sleds?



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Re: Getting HDs and SSDs into classic Mac Pro-latest brainwave
Posted by: jdc
Date: August 04, 2020 03:53PM
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AllGold
I'm confused. Five drives is not enough?

yeah... I asked this last time too.

Pull both opticals and get 5 3.5" and still a 2.5" SSD on PCIe.



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Re: Getting HDs and SSDs into classic Mac Pro-latest brainwave
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: August 04, 2020 04:09PM
These look promising:


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Racer X
using a y splitter for power to the two ssds will work great. Did you run across any 4 2.5" drives to 5.25 bay sleds?
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Re: Getting HDs and SSDs into classic Mac Pro-latest brainwave
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: August 04, 2020 04:47PM
anonymouse1, you can get a metal 5.25" bracket that holds a bunch of drives for
$7 @ bezosville.


You may not have to 'cut' the case for the cable. There's an opening in the frame
that I know one SATA cable will snake thru. See my crappy pix below.
You may be able to get two thru it with the 'right' cables & some lube.
Otherwise, it's dremel time!



Let us know the outcome with pictures thumbsup smiley



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Re: Getting HDs and SSDs into classic Mac Pro-latest brainwave
Posted by: Racer X
Date: August 04, 2020 05:01PM
are the flat ribbon sata cables flat enough?



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Re: Getting HDs and SSDs into classic Mac Pro-latest brainwave
Posted by: PeterW
Date: August 04, 2020 05:07PM
For hard drives, does it matter if the connection is SATA II or SATA III?

For SATA SSDs, same question.
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Re: Getting HDs and SSDs into classic Mac Pro-latest brainwave
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: August 04, 2020 05:18PM
For SSDs-definitely. For spinny HDs, maybe.

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PeterW
For hard drives, does it matter if the connection is SATA II or SATA III?

For SATA SSDs, same question.



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Re: Getting HDs and SSDs into classic Mac Pro-latest brainwave
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: August 04, 2020 05:31PM
It’s getting the plugs thru that’s the problem.

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Racer X
are the flat ribbon sata cables flat enough?
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Re: Getting HDs and SSDs into classic Mac Pro-latest brainwave
Posted by: Racer X
Date: August 04, 2020 06:18PM
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anonymouse1
It’s getting the plugs thru that’s the problem.

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Racer X
are the flat ribbon sata cables flat enough?

facepalm



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Re: Getting HDs and SSDs into classic Mac Pro-latest brainwave
Posted by: jdc
Date: August 04, 2020 06:19PM
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PeterW
For hard drives, does it matter if the connection is SATA II or SATA III?

For SATA SSDs, same question.

a RAID 0 of spinny drives could saturate SATA II, but not SATA III.

A single 2.5" SSD could come close to SATA III, but not really. RAID 0 of 2.5" SSDs would.



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Re: Getting HDs and SSDs into classic Mac Pro-latest brainwave
Posted by: AllGold
Date: August 04, 2020 09:18PM
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anonymouse1
It’s getting the plugs thru that’s the problem.

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Racer X
are the flat ribbon sata cables flat enough?

I did that with my old 1,1 and it was a real adventure.



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Re: Getting HDs and SSDs into classic Mac Pro-latest brainwave
Posted by: tahoedrew
Date: August 05, 2020 01:43PM
That won't be a problem!

I'm running two or three cables into the 5.25" drive bay (can't remember now, but I've had three for sure at one time). They come from both the extra motherboard SATA cable and a SATA controller card.

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PeterW
For hard drives, does it matter if the connection is SATA II or SATA III?

For SATA SSDs, same question.
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Re: Getting HDs and SSDs into classic Mac Pro-latest brainwave
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: August 05, 2020 04:19PM
Tahoedrew-please see my PM. Thanks!
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