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Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: PeterB
Date: September 26, 2020 06:03PM
OP here: [forums.macresource.com]

... I've kinda narrowed it down to either a Bosch, a Kitchen Aid, or a Whirlpool ...

Models I'm looking at: Bosch (still not sure exactly which model, but probably one of the 300, 500, or 800 series-- if anyone has any particular ones they think I should look at, let me know), the Kitchen Aid (probably KDFM404KPS), and the Whirlpool (probably WDT750SAHZ). Edit: one major complication for me is that with corona, I'm basically homebound, and so am pretty much having to buy sight-unseen... I can see from some reviews that I'm not the only person to be in that situation.

Also, if anyone has experience with delivery/installation/haul-away with any of the major 3-4 suppliers (Lowes, Home Depot, Best Buy, Costco), please let me know. I'd probably be inclined to go with Lowes because they're literally a skip and a jump away from me, but I'd be willing to go with whoever can handle the whole thing for the most reasonable price.

(Sucks that I missed the Lowes sale, and virtually nothing is on sale now...)




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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: September 26, 2020 06:51PM
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PeterB
(Sucks that I missed the Lowes sale, and virtually nothing is on sale now...)

Word on the street is that large retailers are planning to hold early "holiday" sales in October.

Possibly, October 10th and 26th.



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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: PeterB
Date: September 26, 2020 07:00PM
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Sarcany
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PeterB
(Sucks that I missed the Lowes sale, and virtually nothing is on sale now...)

Word on the street is that large retailers are planning to hold early "holiday" sales in October.

Possibly, October 10th and 26th.

Good to know ... hopefully I can wait that long. (Repairman said that my Whirlpool has a failing motor and that I can continue to use it, but run the risk of water leaking out from underneath-- and in the meantime, it's not going to clean especially well...) And the 26th, looks like that's for Prime Day, but Amazon doesn't sell these, so far as I'm aware...




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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: September 26, 2020 07:01PM
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PeterB
...the 26th, looks like that's for Prime Day, but Amazon doesn't sell these, so far as I'm aware...

Big retailers usually hold sales to coincide with Prime Day.



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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: sekker
Date: September 26, 2020 07:53PM
We love our Bosch.

We purchased from Warner's Stellian rather than a Big Box store.
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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: space-time
Date: September 26, 2020 08:48PM
... I've kinda narrowed it down to either a Bosch, a Kitchen Aid, or a Whirlpool ...

well, that is a very "narrow" range indeed

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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: Tiki2000
Date: September 26, 2020 09:04PM
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sekker
We love our Bosch.

We purchased from Warner's Stellian rather than a Big Box store.

Was Warner's Stellian still offering free basic installation?

Having lived SotR for 20yrs, I smiled seeing the Warner's Stellian reference....



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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: sekker
Date: September 26, 2020 10:04PM
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Tiki2000
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sekker
We love our Bosch.

We purchased from Warner's Stellian rather than a Big Box store.

Was Warner's Stellian still offering free basic installation?

Having lived SotR for 20yrs, I smiled seeing the Warner's Stellian reference....

I don't think so. But the final price was fair, and they did a good job.
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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: September 26, 2020 10:21PM
.....always tip Julio at least 50%......



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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: davester
Date: September 26, 2020 11:04PM
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space-time
... I've kinda narrowed it down to either a Bosch, a Kitchen Aid, or a Whirlpool ...

well, that is a very "narrow" range indeed

smiley-laughing001

Especially since a Kitchenaid is a Whirlpool with a few extra bells and whistles added, the same as an Acura is a Honda with a slightly nicer grade of leather on the seats.



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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: PeterB
Date: September 26, 2020 11:15PM
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davester
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space-time
... I've kinda narrowed it down to either a Bosch, a Kitchen Aid, or a Whirlpool ...

well, that is a very "narrow" range indeed

smiley-laughing001

Especially since a Kitchenaid is a Whirlpool with a few extra bells and whistles added, the same as an Acura is a Honda with a slightly nicer grade of leather on the seats.

Well guys, that DOES eliminate quite a few other brands, and also I mentioned a specific model for each except for the Bosch.

Now go back to the doghouse, where you belong. nono smiley




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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: September 27, 2020 05:12AM
I believe the Leader chose a Miele sometime back, because it was quiet, or at least that was one of the factors.




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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: WHiiP
Date: September 27, 2020 06:22AM
I have had several large items delivered and old units taken away by Lowe's. No problems!



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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: September 27, 2020 07:38AM
Best Buy did fine with washer/dryer delivery/removal for us.



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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: PeterB
Date: September 27, 2020 08:20AM
Thanks guys. I had sorta kinda already eliminated Miele because they're too expensive and also it seems it's harder to find parts for them. Of course I've heard lots of good things about Bosch, but I've also heard that when they do malfunction, it's hard to find parts for them as well.

Another thing maybe someone here can answer: do all of these have completely removable racks? (I often wash oversized items, such that being able to remove all the racks is very helpful.)

And those of you who've used the installation services, have they done absolutely everything from start to finish, or have you had to disconnect the old dishwasher first? (I see some services require that you do the disconnect, otherwise they won't do the install...)




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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: September 27, 2020 08:34AM
Installers are sub-contrators, so the quality of service varies from area to area. The ones in my area will not connect gas appliances, At my mom's area, they would not connect ice-makers. Both times the excuse was liability .



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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: sekker
Date: September 27, 2020 08:37AM
I had to replace the rubber seal gasket on my Bosch. Part was easy to get, and I installed it myself.

Our installation was full service. They removed old and put in new.

Not sure all three racks come out, but I think the middle one does which gives a lot of volume capacity.



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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: space-time
Date: September 27, 2020 08:40AM
Come on, enjoy the game, let your sense of humor roam free.
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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: PeterB
Date: September 27, 2020 08:59AM
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sekker
I had to replace the rubber seal gasket on my Bosch. Part was easy to get, and I installed it myself.

Our installation was full service. They removed old and put in new.

Not sure all three racks come out, but I think the middle one does which gives a lot of volume capacity.

Hmmm. Those dishwashers that have that third (upper) rack, and that includes both the Boschs and KitchenAids that I'm looking at, I would definitely want to be able to remove those racks.




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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: kurtzie
Date: September 27, 2020 09:15AM
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PeterB
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sekker
I had to replace the rubber seal gasket on my Bosch. Part was easy to get, and I installed it myself.

Our installation was full service. They removed old and put in new.

Not sure all three racks come out, but I think the middle one does which gives a lot of volume capacity.

Hmmm. Those dishwashers that have that third (upper) rack, and that includes both the Boschs and KitchenAids that I'm looking at, I would definitely want to be able to remove those racks.

Our Kitchen Aid 3rd (highest up) rack is removable - pop out two track slide things and pull out.
The other 2 racks aren't easily removable…
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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: pdq
Date: September 27, 2020 11:14AM
We like our Bosch, even with the third tray. At times it’s hard to tell if it’s running - it’s that quiet. And no trouble in the first 5 years so far.
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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: PeterB
Date: September 27, 2020 11:31AM
For those of you who have / like Boschs, would you please mention which model number(s) you all have? One thing that's giving me pause about the Boschs is that many of the newer models are having complaints that they break down at about the 18 month mark, and that the newer ones are just not up to snuff quality-wise, compared to the older models. This is apparently especially true for the Ascenta series models, where even though Consumer Reports has given them glowing reviews, the user comments are decidedly mixed or even outright negative. For the Boschs specifically, the condensation method of trying also gives me pause, because down here in LA, where the humidity can be extreme, I could imagine condensation dry doesn't work nearly as well as it would somewhere farther north.




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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: September 27, 2020 01:43PM
I'm getting a Whirlpool. I don't want to have to dry my dishes before I put them up. They are all quiet enough for me. I would have to get a lower end Bosch and I don't like the reviews.
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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: PeterB
Date: September 27, 2020 02:00PM
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I'm getting a Whirlpool. I don't want to have to dry my dishes before I put them up. They are all quiet enough for me. I would have to get a lower end Bosch and I don't like the reviews.

That's the direction I'm currently leaning -- either going for a reasonably priced Whirlpool (maybe $500?) or a higher-end Kitchen Aid (around $1K). The reviews for the Kitchen Aid, in particular, seem to be outstanding across most sites I've checked, EXCEPT for Consumer Reports.




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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: September 27, 2020 03:42PM
I'm looking at a Whirlpool for $500+. The guy at a mom and pop store said don't get the $369 one. I don't care about features or quietness. They should all be pretty quiet by now.
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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: PeterB
Date: September 27, 2020 04:04PM
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Dennis S
I'm looking at a Whirlpool for $500+. The guy at a mom and pop store said don't get the $369 one. I don't care about features or quietness. They should all be pretty quiet by now.

Curious which model you're looking at. The Whirlpools definitely seem to get middling reviews, compare to either KA or Bosch.




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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: September 27, 2020 04:13PM
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PeterB
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Dennis S
I'm looking at a Whirlpool for $500+. The guy at a mom and pop store said don't get the $369 one. I don't care about features or quietness. They should all be pretty quiet by now.

Curious which model you're looking at. The Whirlpools definitely seem to get middling reviews, compare to either KA or Bosch.

I haven't picked a model yet.
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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: September 27, 2020 04:33PM
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PeterB
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Dennis S
I'm looking at a Whirlpool for $500+. The guy at a mom and pop store said don't get the $369 one. I don't care about features or quietness. They should all be pretty quiet by now.

Curious which model you're looking at. The Whirlpools definitely seem to get middling reviews, compare to either KA or Bosch.

Can you find the $500 Whirlpool model number on this site that is in the Top Five? I can't get the site to reload.

[blog.designerappliances.com]

Thanks.



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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: September 27, 2020 07:06PM
Listed as Best Budget Under $499 is this Whirlpool.

It's their link that takes one to HD, where the price is not the same.




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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: MikeF
Date: September 27, 2020 07:16PM
That best value Whirlpool has a plastic tub.
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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: Randalls
Date: September 27, 2020 07:22PM
Here is an article I found that may or may not help.
[www.nbcnews.com]
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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: PeterB
Date: September 27, 2020 09:29PM
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MikeF
That best value Whirlpool has a plastic tub.

I'm still not sure why some people like the stainless over plastic... does it really make that much of a difference in terms of keeping the dishwasher clean?




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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: September 27, 2020 09:35PM
....can you wash that gal....right outta' your hair......???



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Re: Followup to "who do we like for dishwashers?"
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: September 27, 2020 09:43PM
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RAMd®d
Listed as Best Budget Under $499 is this Whirlpool.

It's their link that takes one to HD, where the price is not the same.

Thanks.
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