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How to turn off Keychain?
Posted by: Spiff
Date: April 09, 2008 08:09PM
Ok, I've looked here, I've looked on apple, I've looked in the help utility.

I admit it, I'm an idiot. I've got 11 more steps to go.

How do you turn off the keychain in 10.4.11? I've looked and read and looked some more, and can't figure it out.

Nuts
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Re: How to turn off Keychain?
Posted by: space-time
Date: April 09, 2008 08:22PM
what exacly are you trying to do? to unlock it? lock it? get rid of it completely? why?

the Application itself is called "Keychain Access" and it is locate in the "Applications -> Utilities" folder. You can delete if you have Admin privileges. But why???

The Kwychains are in "User -> Library -> keychains" (substitute User with your actual User name on that machine). Delete them. (but don't ask me later what is your password for that web site)
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Re: How to turn off Keychain?
Posted by: Spiff
Date: April 09, 2008 08:57PM
Cool. That's what I think I'm looking for. I know all my passwords and don't want Keychain making me stupid. I know, sounds wierd, but that's me.
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Re: How to turn off Keychain?
Date: April 09, 2008 09:23PM
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Spiff
I know all my passwords and don't want Keychain making me stupid.

Disabling Keychain will make you feel that way.
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Re: How to turn off Keychain?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: April 09, 2008 10:49PM
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Spiff
I know all my passwords

I remember those days... it was probably 7 or 8 years ago. I host probably ~40 web sites and work on many others. Maybe a total of 100. You've got FTP, remote access, database, site admins... and then test accounts for each, and dev sites for each... probably close to 1000 unique usernames and password combos.

And that's not even getting into email, networking, file serving, encryption... I wouldn't be surprised if I had a couple thousand accounts. Of course, they don't all end up in my keychain. That'd be really dumb.




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Re: How to turn off Keychain?
Posted by: MacMagus
Date: April 09, 2008 11:37PM
> I know all my passwords and don't want Keychain making me stupid.

Run the Keychain Access app.

Select the login keychain from the panel on the left side.

Select the passwords category.

Click on any of the saved passwords in the panel on the right side.

Choose "Select All" from the Edit menu.

Press the delete key.

Quit the Keychain Access app.

Thereafter, when you get a password dialog, DO NOT check off the little checkbox to remember the password.
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Re: How to turn off Keychain?
Posted by: space-time
Date: April 10, 2008 12:09PM
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M A V I C
... I wouldn't be surprised if I had a couple thousand accounts. Of course, they don't all end up in my keychain. That'd be really dumb.

why would that be dumb? what better way to manage 1000s of different accounts?

Password1 (which most people like) still uses a keychain. yes, there are probably other apps out there, but keychain is free and most like to be supported in the future. Other companies might go belly-up, but if Apple goes belly-up, we have other things to worry about then
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Re: How to turn off Keychain?
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: April 10, 2008 12:14PM
I memorize usernames and passwords for all my financial sites -- everything else I trust to 1Password/Keychain.



It is what it is.
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Re: How to turn off Keychain?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: April 10, 2008 12:27PM
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M A V I C
... I wouldn't be surprised if I had a couple thousand accounts. Of course, they don't all end up in my keychain. That'd be really dumb.

why would that be dumb? what better way to manage 1000s of different accounts?

Password1 (which most people like) still uses a keychain. yes, there are probably other apps out there, but keychain is free and most like to be supported in the future. Other companies might go belly-up, but if Apple goes belly-up, we have other things to worry about then

Depends on what the passwords are for. If the worst thing for you is they're going to log into your MR account, post forbidden material and get you banned for a bit, then there's not as big of a risk. I think if my clients heard I was using, for example 1Password, they'd probably fire me.




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Re: How to turn off Keychain?
Posted by: MacMagus
Date: April 10, 2008 05:37PM
> I think if my clients heard I was using, for example 1Password, they'd probably fire me.

I agree.

It's an Input Manager. Yikes!

(I use it at work.) smiling smiley
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Re: How to turn off Keychain?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: April 10, 2008 05:49PM
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> I think if my clients heard I was using, for example 1Password, they'd probably fire me.

I agree.

It's an Input Manager. Yikes!

(I use it at work.) smiling smiley

Maybe I'm misunderstanding how it works... I know it can manage multiple logins and all that... but doesn't it store all that info behind "one password"?




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Re: How to turn off Keychain?
Posted by: MacMagus
Date: April 11, 2008 12:13AM
> Maybe I'm misunderstanding how it works... I know it can manage multiple logins and all
> that... but doesn't it store all that info behind "one password"?

It does a whole lot.

It stores a master password in the keychain. Periodically, that password has to be re-entered to authorize 1Password. When it's authorized, you can use it as a shortcut to login to secure web pages. Just right-click in one of the login fields to select the contextual menu item in your browser or click on the icon in your toolbar.

You can set it to automatically remember all of your logins or to pop up an alert to ask you what to do when it detects that you're logging into a new site or entering data in a new form.

It can be used to save and restore form information. It can intelligently fill in new forms and choose random secure passwords of some preset strength for you.

It also has a feature for iPhone users where it can save encrypted notes as Safari bookmarks and Palm users can sync encrypted notes to their wallet. I haven't tried the encrypted notes yet.

My understanding is that while it can work in Firefox as a normal plugin, they had to make it an input manager in order for it to work in Safari. Which sucks for many reasons, not the least of which is that they have to release a new version whenever Apple updates Safari or tweaks some security feature or another.
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Re: How to turn off Keychain?
Posted by: Alison
Date: August 19, 2013 10:55AM
I don't know or care about all of the useful things that keychain might be doing for me in the background, but I agree with Spiff. I know all the passwords for my important stuff, and I'd rather use the "forgot password" functions for stuff I don't need to access frequently. For example, I had to create a login to post this. I may never look at this site again. I don't need or want keychain storing my password for this site.

If someone gets onto my computer, I don't want that meaning they have carte blanche access to everything on my keychain, like my email, my work website login, my bank login, etc.

What I want to turn off is the default setting that makes it keep assuming I want it to store passwords. I don't want to have to stay constantly vigilant, remembering to uncheck that box every time I log in to something (and also have to regularly go in there and erase my passwords out of keychain when I accidentally forget to uncheck the box).

I had managed to fix this on my old computer, but I just got a new one, complete with frustrating changes to get used to, and one of them is the fact that keychain is back to defaulting with the "save password" box checked. I realize I'm responding to this thread significantly after the original posting, but I hope someone can help me. I'm now on OS 10.8.4.
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