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OS 9 is GONE...
Posted by: MacMagus
Date: December 18, 2005 02:36AM
Okay, not gone.

I've moved my PPC 9600 (G4/450) to OS X.

Now the 7600, 9600, Beige, Sawtooths and Ti are all running OS X as their primary OS.

The only Macs in the apartment that aren't running OS X are the MacQuaria and the digital picture frame.

It's the end of an era.
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Re: OS 9 is GONE...
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: December 18, 2005 02:53AM
My IIci is running OS X. So there.





My life goes smoothly and in regular intervals
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Re: OS 9 is GONE...
Posted by: RgrF
Date: December 18, 2005 02:59AM
I'm staying with 9X until I can't any longer. For me the software upgrades alone will cost more than the machine. I wish you well and hope you'll share your X experience 'cause I know I'll be at that door soon.
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Re: OS 9 is GONE...
Posted by: MacMagus
Date: December 18, 2005 03:41AM
> hope you'll share your X experience

Actually, I've been using X since the beta (which ran on the 9600). No new experiences to share, in particular.

...except that I've verified that the floppy won't work. :-)

But now none of my Macs are running 9 as the primary OS. It's kind of a weird feeling. Like treading water.

(The picture frame is running 8.6)
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Re: OS 9 is GONE...
Posted by: RgrF
Date: December 18, 2005 03:46AM
So how costly were the X upgrades ( I'm a pretty cheap old bastard)
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Re: OS 9 is GONE...
Posted by: MacMagus
Date: December 18, 2005 04:29AM
> So how costly were the X upgrades ( I'm a pretty cheap old
> bastard)

I might owe Ryan Rempel another donation. smiling smiley

On the 9600 it was mostly an investment of time. Things were complicated by having 5 of 6 PCI slots filled. I had to swap an Adaptec SCSI card for one from Atto, which I had anyway. Then I had to install the right firmware for the Atto card under OS 9. I also installeda bigger ATA drive using the Acard card that I already had in there. Figuring out the SCSI card problem and resolving a PCI power problem that had me swapping cards for awhile were the hardest parts, but I was prepared for worse.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/18/2005 04:42AM by MacMagus.
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RgrF . . .
Posted by: WHiiP
Date: December 18, 2005 05:07AM
I think you are concerned with the software upgrades, yes?

Remember that you will still have Classic to fall back on, so you probably don't HAVE to upgrade much, if anything.

With a Mac mini you get

Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger
Improving on its predecessors, Tiger delivers 200+ new features, such as the amazing Spotlight search technology and handy Dashboard widgets. Tiger also includes all-new versions of the following system applications:

- Safari 2
- Mail 2
- Address Book 4
- iChat AV 3
- iCal 2
- Font Book 2
- DVD Player 4.5
- Preview 3
- Xcode 2
More Software
In addition, the Mac mini comes with an incredible bundle of software:

- iLife ‘05
- iWork ‘05 30-day trial
- AppleWorks
- Quicken 2005 for Macintosh
- Nanosaur 2
- Marble Blast Gold
- Apple Hardware Test

drinking smiley cheers




Bill
Flagler Beach, FL 32136

Carpe Vino!

Fermentation may have been a greater discovery than fire.
— David Rains Wallace
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Re: OS 9 is GONE...
Posted by: Bernie
Date: December 18, 2005 07:15AM
I have a Wall Street that slides under my Apple 21 inch CRT ( we call bubba ).
This Wall Street is still OS 9 and will stay that way I guess until Palm, AvantGo, and Apple become seamless again. Daily the Wall Street is slid out, powered up and my PDA is synced. Any thing else is just a conflicting pain in the PDA.




Staunton, Virginia
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Re: OS 9 is GONE...
Posted by: SteveJobs
Date: December 18, 2005 07:40AM
ka jowct

NO WAY is your II ci Running OS X! Show me.
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Re: OS 9 is GONE...
Posted by: JEBB
Date: December 18, 2005 07:50AM
Bernie: Palm desktop 4.0 runs fine with MacOS 10.3.9 which I sync with my Handspring Visor Edge regularly. It's free, so that ought not hold you back.
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Re: OS 9 is GONE...
Posted by: bangman
Date: December 18, 2005 08:55AM
OS 9 is still quite viable if the software suits your needs. Stability was always a problem for me with browsers freezing and crashing. Wamcom Mozilla though is quite amazing and seems to solve that problem.

I have a new refurbed Mac mini which is Tiger. My Lombard runs both Panther and OS 9. Mostly in Panther as it's quite stable and reasonably fast.

I'd always thought that OS 7.6 was the pinnacle of system software for Mac. Times do change though.



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3GHz - The clock is STILL ticking Steve.
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Re: OS 9 is GONE...
Posted by: h'
Date: December 18, 2005 10:22AM
Hard restarts are fading sooooo far into the background . . .
rgr, what mac do you have?



I suffer from the same sensitivity that you do. A few nuggets of wisdom were shared with me and I'm "trying" to incorporate them into my life. First, remember that nobody can hurt your feelings unless you let them. You can always reject what is being forced on you emotionally.
Second, nothing changes unless you change it. If you don't want the behavior to be repeated then you need to take action. Otherwise the kid has learned that his behavior is the way to get things done, because everyone lets him get away with it.
In the meantime I sympathize because I've been there.
-beerman
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Re: OS 9 is GONE...
Posted by: MacMagus
Date: December 18, 2005 11:41AM
> Stability was always a problem for me with browsers freezing
> and crashing.

Wamcom only goes so far.

One of my major motivations was to get a modern browser on there.

Another was to make it a more effective server. No need for Appletalk anymore and I wanted to experiment with https.
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Re: OS 9 is GONE...
Posted by: PeterB
Date: December 18, 2005 01:07PM
Funny, did someone mention running OS X on an 040 machine?

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Re: OS 9 is GONE...
Posted by: MacMagus
Date: December 18, 2005 01:13PM
> Funny, did someone mention running OS X on an 040 machine?

Darnitt. No way to run it on an 020? I have an LC and a Mac II in storage.
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Re: OS 9 is GONE...
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: December 18, 2005 04:15PM
I'd always thought that OS 7.6 was the pinnacle of system software for Mac. Times do change though.

That's an odd choice. I'd have picked 8.6 or 7.1 as high points in pre-X OS versions.
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Re: RgrF . . .
Posted by: RgrF
Date: December 18, 2005 05:55PM
WHiiP Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I think you are concerned with the software
> upgrades, yes?
>
> Remember that you will still have Classic to fall
> back on, so you probably don't HAVE to upgrade
> much, if anything.
>
> With a Mac mini you get
>
> Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger
> Improving on its predecessors, Tiger delivers 200+
> new features, such as the amazing Spotlight search
> technology and handy Dashboard widgets. Tiger also
> includes all-new versions of the following system
> applications:
>
> - Safari 2
> - Mail 2
> - Address Book 4
> - iChat AV 3
> - iCal 2
> - Font Book 2
> - DVD Player 4.5
> - Preview 3
> - Xcode 2
> More Software
> In addition, the Mac mini comes with an incredible
> bundle of software:
>
> - iLife ‘05
> - iWork ‘05 30-day trial
> - AppleWorks
> - Quicken 2005 for Macintosh
> - Nanosaur 2
> - Marble Blast Gold
> - Apple Hardware Test
>
> cheers
>
>
> Bill

Thanks for the response Bill and you're right it is the sftwr upgrades holding me back. While the bundled titles are useful they don't come near filling my needs. I'd have to install a new Office Suite to start but more costly are the upgrades from 3rd party developers. These are what run our business.

One program was absolutly depend upon just now released an X version for a mere $1200.

I'll eventually install X so I too can enjoy the thrill of kernel panics and denied permissions et al. The idea of being on the very beginning of a whole new learning curve dosen't excite me either.

There's almost no software or system glitch that I can't either fix or work around in 9 and that won't be true in X.

So until they pry my cold dead fingers off my out of date optical mouse, I'll be stuck in the horse and buggy days. ;)





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/18/2005 06:16PM by RgrF.
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Re: OS 9 is GONE...
Posted by: silvarios
Date: December 19, 2005 01:28AM
If you install Debian on a 68k Mac, you can then compile PearPC to run on the installation. After getting PearPC up and running you can install OS X. Takes days to boot. Good luck.
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