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HD TV Via Rabbit Ears? But With HDMI Connection?
Posted by: chopper
Date: January 02, 2009 09:40AM
I have the older Sony KP-57WV600 5 TV which has an unused HDMI port in the back. I'd like to get some HD content on the unit but I'm not real impressed with Charter's HD channels-- looks like they are REALLY compressing the signal and it shows.

What I was impressed with is my mom's HD service via her simple rooftop antenna. She got 8-10 HD channels just over the air and it looked spectacular.

I've got this Sony TV fairly well connected to several machines already, Apple TV, Wii, Charter cable box etc. The HDMI port is still open though. Does anyone know of a workable rabbit ear set up which uses an HDMI cable?

I think Charter charges me something like $10 a month for just the basic box attached to this TV. Every time I look at it I wonder if my money isn't spent better some other way for that TV.

thanks

Chop
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Re: HD TV Via Rabbit Ears? But With HDMI Connection?
Posted by: MGS_forgot_password
Date: January 02, 2009 10:02AM
Aren't "rabbit ears" just an antenna? They don't have a tuner, so they can't output video.

Your TV doesn't have a built-in ATSC tuner?
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Re: HD TV Via Rabbit Ears? But With HDMI Connection?
Posted by: mikebw
Date: January 02, 2009 10:06AM
What you need to look for is an external ATSC tuner. Problem is there are not a lot of these out there anymore because all new HDTV's come with built-in ATSC tuners now, and most older TV's can't display HD resolutions and therefore don't need anything with an HDMI output.

I'm sure you can find something though, used maybe. I have an LG unit that has a DVI output that could be adapted to HDMI fairly easily.
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Re: HD TV Via Rabbit Ears? But With HDMI Connection?
Posted by: BigGuynRusty
Date: January 02, 2009 10:18AM
The Sony is "HDTV Ready", it does not have an ATSC Tuner.
Only 102 Bucks.:
[www.circuitcity.com]
Best I have ever tested, I own four of them.
Does ATSC plus Clear QAM.

BGnR



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Re: HD TV Via Rabbit Ears? But With HDMI Connection?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: January 02, 2009 10:52AM
And you might want to invest in a UHF antenna, if the OTA channels near you are in that band (a lot are).

Most TVs with built-in rabbit ears also use a UHF loop for those channels, although rabbit ears *might* be enough for you.



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Re: HD TV Via Rabbit Ears? But With HDMI Connection?
Posted by: olnacl
Date: January 02, 2009 11:26AM
If this description [www.amazon.com] is correct, you need nothing but the antenna [www.amazon.com] I have this one and it works great.

According to the tech description, you have 2 RF inouts - one will be for cable and the other for antenna.



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Re: HD TV Via Rabbit Ears? But With HDMI Connection?
Posted by: BigGuynRusty
Date: January 02, 2009 12:13PM
Doesn't AnyBody Read either MikeBW, or my Posts??
No ATSC Tuner!!
From the olnaci link.:
"Signal type: NTSC, decoded ATSC"
"DeCoded" ATSC means it doesn't have an ATSC Tuner!!

BGnR



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"If we dig precious things from the land, we will invite disaster."
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Re: HD TV Via Rabbit Ears? But With HDMI Connection?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: January 02, 2009 01:21PM
Doesn't AnyBody Read either MikeBW, or my Posts??

I did.

Won't that Samsung tuner need to be connected to an antenna? I suppose he could feed it with cable instead but based on his subject line I thought he wanted to use an antenna.



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And hope is a lousy defense.

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except by believing all possible evil
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Re: HD TV Via Rabbit Ears? But With HDMI Connection?
Posted by: deckeda
Date: January 02, 2009 01:37PM
Good price on that tuner. Get it while you can, chopper, as the days of decent HD ATSC tuners (as opposed to SD ATSC tuners) have drawn to a close, now that newer HDTVs already come with ATSC tuners built-in.

So yes, connect your antenna to the Samsung and the Samsung into the TV.
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Re: HD TV Via Rabbit Ears? But With HDMI Connection?
Posted by: chopper
Date: January 02, 2009 02:54PM
thanks to all for the advice and comments. Not sure that I want to stick another $100 into that TV. A new 42 inch something that will hang on the wall is how much?

I was hoping to spend $30 and pick up some channels.

Bummer
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Re: HD TV Via Rabbit Ears? But With HDMI Connection?
Posted by: deckeda
Date: January 02, 2009 03:13PM
For $40 you can get the TR-40 from Dish, [www.dishnetwork.com] but it won't be HD. But look around, I just scanned a completed eBay auction where someone snagged one for half that.
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Re: HD TV Via Rabbit Ears? But With HDMI Connection?
Posted by: BigGuynRusty
Date: January 02, 2009 03:23PM
Quote
deckeda
For $40 you can get the TR-40 from Dish, [www.dishnetwork.com] but it won't be HD. But look around, I just scanned a completed eBay auction where someone snagged one for half that.
Why do that?
Get a $40 Government Coupon!!
[www.dtv2009.gov]

BGnR



"Good heavens, Miss Sakamoto! You're beautiful!"
"If we dig precious things from the land, we will invite disaster."
"Near the day of Purification, there will be cobwebs spun back and forth in the sky."
"A container of ashes might one day be thrown from the sky, which could burn the land and boil the oceans."
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Re: HD TV Via Rabbit Ears? But With HDMI Connection?
Posted by: olnacl
Date: January 02, 2009 04:11PM
Quote
BigGuynRusty
Doesn't AnyBody Read either MikeBW, or my Posts??
No ATSC Tuner!!
From the olnaci link.:
"Signal type: NTSC, decoded ATSC"
"DeCoded" ATSC means it doesn't have an ATSC Tuner!!

BGnR

My humble apology. I googled "decoded ATSC" and came up with nothing to indicate it meant it had no ATSC tuner. I was comparing it to mine, with the two RF inputs (mine has an ATSC tuner) and surmised incorrectly. Another link I found just now stated clearly that the tuner is NTSC
Built-in Tuner: NTSC

Again, sorry I mislead.



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