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Does 'roast' mean cook w/o a lid?
Posted by: graylocks
Date: February 05, 2009 06:00PM
making my first dutch oven meal. i'm using this recipe here:

Whole Roasted Teriyaki-Orange Chicken

does roast mean i shouldn't use the lid?

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Re: Does 'roast' mean cook w/o a lid?
Posted by: decocritter
Date: February 05, 2009 06:04PM
I like to cook with a lid and then take it off the last 15 minutes for additional browning.

Chicken skin will be weird otherwise instead of crispy golden brown. I would baste it with the orange bits while lidded but don't burn them.


What time is dinner? How is traffic getting to you house?wink smiley
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Re: Does 'roast' mean cook w/o a lid?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: February 05, 2009 06:07PM
Roasting is a dry heat cooking method. Putting the lid on would be a very bad idea. In fact, a pan used for roasting should have low sides, and be much wider than what you're roasting. You want as much of the food as possible to be exposed to the hot air of your oven. Don't forget to truss the chicken to ensure even cooking.
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Re: Does 'roast' mean cook w/o a lid?
Posted by: AlphaDog
Date: February 05, 2009 06:13PM
I go with freeradical - no lid. A lid would cause steam to form and change the way the meat cooks. If you find the chicken is getting too brown before you think it's cooked through, put a piece of loose foil over it, leaving plenty of room for steam to escape.

It looks mighty tasty. I might have to save that recipe and try it on a whole chicken I have in my freezer. smiling smiley

Edit: Did I get it fixed before the spelling police saw it?!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/05/2009 06:23PM by AlphaDog.
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Re: Does 'roast' mean cook w/o a lid?
Posted by: decocritter
Date: February 05, 2009 06:16PM
By that recipe, I would leave the lid off, also. It looks good.
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Re: Does 'roast' mean cook w/o a lid?
Posted by: Manlove
Date: February 05, 2009 06:55PM
I made roast chicken and roast potatoes last night.
Definitely not a Wednesday night meal!
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Re: Does 'roast' mean cook w/o a lid?
Posted by: graylocks
Date: February 05, 2009 07:46PM
dinners over. tasty, though those string beans were pretty dark and limp after roasting with the chicken for over an hour.
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Re: Does 'roast' mean cook w/o a lid?
Posted by: AlphaDog
Date: February 05, 2009 08:26PM
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graylocks
dinners over. tasty, though those string beans were pretty dark and limp after roasting with the chicken for over an hour.

I wondered about that! What they didn't tell you was that they'd probably steamed those beans and added them before taking the photograph. I swear that's why most of what I cook doesn't look the way it does in the picture.
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Re: Does 'roast' mean cook w/o a lid?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: February 05, 2009 08:37PM
There is a trick to cooking green veggies such as string beans, broccoli, etc.

- Bring salty, as in ocean salty water to a boil.

- Boil your veggies only until they are "al dente" in doneness

- Refresh them in an ice water bath

You can then do what you want with them later, such as quickly saute them, etc.
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Re: Does 'roast' mean cook w/o a lid?
Posted by: graylocks
Date: February 05, 2009 09:14PM
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freeradical
There is a trick to cooking green veggies such as string beans, broccoli, etc.

- Bring salty, as in ocean salty water to a boil.

- Boil your veggies only until they are "al dente" in doneness

- Refresh them in an ice water bath

You can then do what you want with them later, such as quickly saute them, etc.

and when i'm preparing greenies separately, that's what i do. but that is not what this recipe specifically tells you to do. why don't they use a picture of the actual prepared dish rather than 'roasted chicken with prettier, stand-in string beans.'
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Re: Does 'roast' mean cook w/o a lid?
Posted by: Racer X
Date: February 06, 2009 01:18AM
roasting is by deffinition, dry heat, so if the lid is on, it is a braise with very little liquid.
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Re: Does 'roast' mean cook w/o a lid?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: February 06, 2009 01:26AM
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Racer X
roasting is by deffinition, dry heat, so if the lid is on, it is a braise with very little liquid.

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Re: Does 'roast' mean cook w/o a lid?
Posted by: Racer X
Date: February 06, 2009 01:38AM
I had to look that one up. Fair enough. Not something I ever knew about. "Stewing in its own juices"



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/06/2009 01:43AM by Racer X.
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