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What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: wurm
Date: June 20, 2009 08:51AM
I can't remember the last time we even started up our G4 450 duallie. I just did now and it works fine. It's just that with my iMac as my primary computer and the kids with their MacBooks, there's really not much use for it any more.

I could try to sell it, but if I were lucky I might get $75 for it (more likely $50) on Craigslist. And to do that, it would take almost more effort than it's worth to prep it for sale, in terms of wiping the drives, reinstalling OS X and cleaning it all up. I'm wondering if I wouldn't be better off just removing the hard drives and having them shredded, then listing the remaining skeleton on Craigslist, as parts. Or do I go so far as to try to list the ram, USB 2.0 PCI card, optical drive, keyboard, etc. individually? I also have a 17" LCD monitor that might be worth a few dollars.

Any thoughts?
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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: Fritz
Date: June 20, 2009 09:00AM
there's always a school or the like that would like the donation.

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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: June 20, 2009 09:00AM
would it really take you that long to reformat the hard drive and reinstall the os? is that more than two dozen clicks?

then CL for cheap. first person with $50. no reason why you have to put a lot of effort into it. you're not doing this for the money, you're doing this because you want to get rid of it.

would any charities be interested in it? seems a bit old for that as well.



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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: PeterW
Date: June 20, 2009 09:05AM
Put it out by the curb. It'll be gone by the morning - if it lasts that long.

And schools and charities don't want 10 year old "donations".
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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: June 20, 2009 09:17AM
would it really take you that long to reformat the hard drive and reinstall the os

I agree.

No need to shred, unless you have Space Shuttle/Air Force One blueprints, etc. A multi-pass zero-write and OS install (which you should do if you're not going to destroy the computer; PATA HDs are getting harder to find) will keep you safe enough.

You can do this while watching TV, no need to sit with it every minute. So little of your time is compromised, and how can't use $50? I'd ask $100, especially if it's in good aesthetic shape. Couldn't hurt.




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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: mstudio
Date: June 20, 2009 09:28AM
Goodwill has started a program with Dell to accept working or non-working computers and monitors. They will sell the ones that work and Dell pays them for the ones that don't. No limit, I'm taking in some old G3 Beige boxes next week along with some CRT monitors. This is in Wisconsin, don't know about other states.
Good luck.
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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: wurm
Date: June 20, 2009 09:47AM
You're probably right about the reinstall. Although I think the only original discs I have are for 10.2. I don't imagine a Tiger install disc from my iMac would install onto the G4. Or would it? I suppose I could even bundle the whole thing with the monitor, some computer speakers, and even an extra printer I have. Might even be able to ask a bit more that way and someone could put it to immediate use.

Thanks for the ideas, and feel free to keep 'em coming.
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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: June 20, 2009 09:55AM
Boot the Dual in Target Mode.

Your iMac is a G5 - right? No problem. It will install.
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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: June 20, 2009 09:57AM
btw... I never multi-wipe - that does take time. Lots of it, and I worry about overheating the drives.

A single zero wipe would be enough.

If you want to make it really friendly, don't forget to install OS 9 first, so it is a dual boot. Those are
valuable to a lot of people these days, and that machine can STILL be upgraded, for idiots, to a
dual 7447 for $400, at 1.6GHz.
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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: June 20, 2009 09:58AM
There have been a few cases when one model's Install disc(s) would work on another Mac, but they're not common.

And anyway, regardless of EULA stuff, would you give your iMac discs away with the Dualie (if they *did* work)? If the OS hiccuped after you sold the computer, the buyer should be able to restore/reinstall the same OS without additional expense.

Of course if they were savvy and were going to install or upgrade with their own discs, it's a moot point.




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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: Fritz
Date: June 20, 2009 10:13AM
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And schools and charities don't want 10 year old "donations". Would any charities be interested in it? seems a bit old for that as well.

I donated 10 vintage G3s 2 years ago to the Knowledge Project in NYC.
They seems happy at the time.
The dualie is 8. Wipe it and find the local thrift. Someone will be happy to have it besides the landfill.
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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: wurm
Date: June 20, 2009 10:23AM
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Jimmypoo
Boot the Dual in Target Mode.

Your iMac is a G5 - right? No problem. It will install.

iMac is an Intel. I'd be happy to include the original 10.2 CDs from way back when, which means I'd probably just install the OS using those. Installing 9 is a good idea, too.
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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: kap
Date: June 20, 2009 10:38AM
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PeterW
Put it out by the curb. It'll be gone by the morning - if it lasts that long.

And schools and charities don't want 10 year old "donations".

Don't bother with freecyle. Some only want the 2 year old or less PCs.



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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: gabester
Date: June 20, 2009 10:38AM
Very few schools are likely to want such an old computer that it creates its own significant support overhead. The same parents who insist their kids use the latest software they use at work also insist their kids are learning on new "modern" equipment.
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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: andypie48
Date: June 20, 2009 10:46AM
there are lots of internet shutouts who would love to be able to get online. and you can start them out with a Mac.
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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: June 20, 2009 12:29PM
As soon as you dump it, your iMac will need a 1 week repair. You know that, right?
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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: June 20, 2009 12:39PM
Spiff it up while watching TV like RAMd@d said and sell it on Craigslist for $75. Someone will be happy to get it.
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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: June 20, 2009 01:09PM
Trade it for an Axiotron Tablet MacBook.


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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: Dakota
Date: June 20, 2009 01:20PM
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wurm
I can't remember the last time we even started up our G4 450 duallie.

I start each day on a Sawtooth. Upgraded to 10.2 GHz years ago and it works just fine.
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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: wurm
Date: June 20, 2009 02:07PM
Hey, it was just a week ago today that we had our family get-together. As it happens, I did end up bringing home some of the potstickers, some of my chilled mango soup and a few slices of my banana bread. Two other folks grabbed some of the banana bread to bring home, as well. The soup and potstickers went over fine, there was just so much freakin' food there, we couldn't have eaten it all if we wanted to...and some of us did.
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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: silvarios
Date: June 20, 2009 02:26PM
I would do at least two passes. There seems to be some evidence that one pass can be overcome.


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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: June 20, 2009 03:00PM
Is Wurm going nuts? He posted a food reply in the G4 thread!

As if the non-stick pan from last week wasn't bad enough!!!
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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: Harbourmaster
Date: June 20, 2009 03:26PM
Check around and see if perhaps you have a home for unwed mothers or battered women's shelter etc.

They are always looking for computers to do basic skills training with...



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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: wurm
Date: June 20, 2009 03:38PM
Yeah, I am going nuts. That food reply obviously belonged in another thread.
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Re: What's the most practical way to get rid of older computer?
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: June 20, 2009 03:46PM
He wrote zeros to his brain!


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