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NetFlix streaming & Silverlight by MicroCrap...... Can movies be captured?
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: June 30, 2009 07:29PM
If so.... what is the best way?

What is the ideal way short of going the Ambrosia route for capturing all things on screen?

Suggestions and comments except those having to do with copyright are welcome!
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Re: NetFlix streaming & Silverlight by MicroCrap...... Can movies be captured?
Posted by: clay
Date: June 30, 2009 09:23PM
set up a video camera in front of your computer screen. Mac audio output to camera input with whatever adapter you need. Import to computer using imovie or whatever you have. Edit out unwanted sections and export as a self-contained quicktime of some flavor.

I'm sure there are higher-tech ways to capture the stream, but you'll run into more roadblocks and hassles using any of them than you will with the old-school method described above.
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Re: NetFlix streaming & Silverlight by MicroCrap...... Can movies be captured?
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: June 30, 2009 09:51PM
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clay
set up a video camera ...

This is a good suggestion - and I'm going to store it for later review, in a file called "Things I would
never admit to even thinking about, let alone doing."

Now.... what else is there?

It's not QuickTime - and I haven't really been able to find out anything about Silverlight that I would
understand because SDKs are useless in my eyes (for me) --- unless I have an interest, and I don't.

If I did, I'd probably start with "in front of my eyes" - but if it was truly boring, I might, indeed, gouge
my eyes out with the SDK books if it were as boring as most of them are (beginning with C, and moving
on from there... to include all the rest of them, including the book on Fortran, COBOL and BASIC that I possessed because my Dad thought that I would find them as interesting as the Ham Radio books and
the ease with which I used to make antennas (something FUN!).

So... let's try this question again!

CAPTURE NETFLIX SILVERLIGHT PLUG-IN VIDEO.

Somebody spill their guts or Blooz is going to be my first victim.
in the late 70s.....)
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Re: NetFlix streaming & Silverlight by MicroCrap...... Can movies be captured?
Posted by: silvarios
Date: June 30, 2009 09:58PM
Roku box connected via analog recorder. Wouldn't that work?


Nathan

Edit: Never mind. Macrovision would screw up your recording.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/30/2009 10:38PM by silvarios.
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Re: NetFlix streaming & Silverlight by MicroCrap...... Can movies be captured?
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: June 30, 2009 10:35PM
I will have to look up Roku box --- but the preferred method here would be to have it like a DVD rip that
can be saved or viewed later (because the download time is really pretty small).

I've only looked at it once today. You can skip to anywhere in the movie - like on Cable on Demand, and
to be honest, for $14/month (2 DVDs and as much streaming as you want), that's not a bad deal if you
are into movies all the time.

Were I to go that far, I would think I could take the audio/video out and just go to the DVR recorder I got
from R/Shack - but I don't have a clue what format that would be.

Is Ambrosia & SnapZ Pro X really the best way there is? Or the only way? Has MS beat us Apple people to
the punch and made NETFLIX our lord and master?!?

THIS CAN'T BE TRUE!!!!!
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Re: NetFlix streaming & Silverlight by MicroCrap...... Can movies be captured?
Posted by: silvarios
Date: June 30, 2009 10:40PM
Yeah, never mind because the Roku has copy protection implemented via Macrovision. You would have to utilize a method to defeat Macrovision in my suggested scheme.


Nathan
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Re: NetFlix streaming & Silverlight by MicroCrap...... Can movies be captured?
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: June 30, 2009 10:59PM
We are beaten. I'll be forever limited to just watching RooTube!

ROOTUBE! (as in KangaRooTube!)


And it's night there when I'm wanting to watch something!!!
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Re: NetFlix streaming & Silverlight by MicroCrap...... Can movies be captured?
Posted by: ADent
Date: June 30, 2009 11:45PM
I used CamTwist to capture some flash streaming movies a couple of weeks ago.
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Re: NetFlix streaming & Silverlight by MicroCrap...... Can movies be captured?
Posted by: JEBB
Date: July 01, 2009 08:10AM
Check out iShowU and Snapz Pro X for video screen capture.



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Re: NetFlix streaming & Silverlight by MicroCrap...... Can movies be captured?
Posted by: TheTominator
Date: July 01, 2009 09:07AM
Video out from one machine (e.g. MacBook playing streaming video) to S-Video using pigtail connector on video out port.
Audio out from that same machine.

Both video and audio goes into some sort of analog to digital converter (e.g. Canopus ADVC 100 or Elgato EyeTV Hybrid).

Output from the digital converter goes into a second computer (optimal) or fed back into the same computer for recording.

The resulting quality is about VHS or worse.

I have tested this method out using a MacBook's Safari output to a G5 desktop running iMovie with a Canopus ADVC 100.



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Re: NetFlix streaming & Silverlight by MicroCrap...... Can movies be captured?
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: July 01, 2009 10:03AM
None of those except Snapz are turning out to be the software solution I had hoped for.

So... we can Tivo a streaming Cable on demand (or can we?), and get the DVDs themselves, but
capture it? THAT, M$ can get CORRECT, and prevent it

Will check out IShowU. Snapz can do it, I just don't know about file size for 2 hours (and $70). Andrew Welch & Ambrosia have been impressing me since the guy was like 14 years old - starting with his games & Easy Envelopes, one of the best, simple, fully functional addrees books and envelope printers for nearly 20 years! And it's free!

So good it is, if you had small database needs to just keep info of ANY sort, you could use this program, type a key word, and all you wrote is there for you.

And this was just a simple "under the Apple" program for System 6!!
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Re: NetFlix streaming & Silverlight by MicroCrap...... Can movies be captured?
Posted by: vision63
Date: July 01, 2009 10:53AM
Is your bit-torrent broken? Paul Blart is all over that place.
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Re: NetFlix streaming & Silverlight by MicroCrap...... Can movies be captured?
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: July 01, 2009 11:45AM
Who is Paul Blart and why is he all over the place? Did he fall into one of these?

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Re: NetFlix streaming & Silverlight by MicroCrap...... Can movies be captured?
Posted by: vision63
Date: July 01, 2009 12:36PM
Something similar. All over the place.
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Re: NetFlix streaming & Silverlight by MicroCrap...... Can movies be captured?
Posted by: Gareth
Date: July 01, 2009 03:03PM
The one thing I streamed to my Mac instead of my TiVo looked awful on the Mac. I believe b/c I wasn't getting the HD stream like I was on my TiVo. In fact, it looked so bad, that I wouldn't put any effort into trying to capture/save it. I'd rather wait for a DVD to show up and rip that if I wanted to save it. Plus, if you get a hiccup in the transfer, the whole thing pauses while it re-buffers, and that would be saved in your capture.

The HD stream on my TiVo looks great though, and while there might be ways to capture that stream, you might run into the macrovision problem again (though the one time I recorded a program from my Series3 TiVo to a DVD burning TiVo to make a DVD I didn't have any macrovision issues).
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Re: NetFlix streaming & Silverlight by MicroCrap...... Can movies be captured?
Posted by: dk62
Date: July 02, 2009 06:56AM
I, for one, am happy that there is Silverlight for Macs - there are way too many solutions out there that use DRM WMA and cannot be seen on the Macs at all. If it were easy to break the protection of Silverlight, I am pretty sure we would not have it, so I would have to say man up and buy a DVD or go the Ambrosia route.
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Re: NetFlix streaming & Silverlight by MicroCrap...... Can movies be captured?
Posted by: guitarist
Date: July 02, 2009 01:03PM
"Software solution". Pretty funny.
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Re: NetFlix streaming & Silverlight by MicroCrap...... Can movies be captured?
Posted by: dk62
Date: July 02, 2009 03:24PM
And BTW there are small boxes that break Macrovision, they used to be available for ~$10-$20, I do not know if they still are.
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