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FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: January 14, 2010 07:36PM
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That registration file is for an unlimited volume license. So even if you didn't own FHMX, that file activates it for you.




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Re: FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: Doc
Date: January 14, 2010 07:45PM
Except that you have to already have the software.
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Re: FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: steve...
Date: January 14, 2010 08:29PM
The file should activate the trial download version, right?

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Re: FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: space-time
Date: January 14, 2010 08:44PM
what does freehand do?
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Re: FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: space-time
Date: January 14, 2010 08:46PM
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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

No updates to FreeHand have been made for over four years, and Adobe has no plans to initiate development to add new features or to support Intel-based Macs and Windows Vista.

Freehand requires Rosetta to be installed. Rosetta provides PPC code emulation allowing applications containing PPC code to run on Intel based Macs.


that pretty much says it all
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Re: FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: $tevie
Date: January 14, 2010 09:29PM
What am I missing about this? It still wants a serial number.



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Re: FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: onthedownlow
Date: January 14, 2010 09:53PM
Ah...loved Aldus Freehand way back in the day. *sigh*

...still pull out an old version from time-to-time.
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Re: FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: jdc
Date: January 14, 2010 10:06PM
and only a 46 MEGABYTE application -- mindblowing.

illustrator is 300 megs...



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Re: FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: January 14, 2010 10:35PM
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$tevie
What am I missing about this? It still wants a serial number.

I just installed FHMX for the first time on this machine. Before launching it, I coped over that registration file. No prompt for a serial number.




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Re: FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: what4
Date: January 14, 2010 11:13PM
As MAVIC said. It installed. Nice.

The Freehand drawing and drawing-editing tools were my favorites. I never got the same ease with Illustrator.
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Re: FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: laarree
Date: January 15, 2010 12:43AM
Interesting. I just installed on my Mac Pro, running 10.5.8. After installing the Freehand Registration file in the location Adobe suggested, Freehand launches with a splash screen saying "License Expires: Never".

I tested it with some old Freehand files I had in archives. My files dated 1996 open up fine (I had re-saved most of my oldest files to the newer Freehand format then), but my original oldest files from 1991-1992 fail to open--"unknown format" issue. I tried adding a .fh3 extension, that didn't help.

I always was fond of Freehand--it had some subtleties done right that still don't feel right in Illustrator to this days, such as the feel of its "snaps", and the fact that you could actually numerically position control handles on bezier points and toggle from corner to smooth point or vice versa so straightforwardly. Ah memories!!!




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Re: FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: SKYLANE
Date: January 15, 2010 11:29AM
Is this a program similar to MacDraw? Will it open old MacDraw files?
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Re: FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: Mr Downtown
Date: January 15, 2010 11:47AM
There's a movement to get Adobe to allow FH to become open source:

[www.freefreehand.org]
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Re: FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: laarree
Date: January 15, 2010 01:12PM
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SKYLANE
Is this a program similar to MacDraw? Will it open old MacDraw files?

Freehand was Illustrator's competitor for many many years--it's a vector illustration program.




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Re: FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: steve...
Date: January 15, 2010 01:37PM
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laarree

I always was fond of Freehand--it had some subtleties done right that still don't feel right in Illustrator to this days, such as the feel of its "snaps", and the fact that you could actually numerically position control handles on bezier points and toggle from corner to smooth point or vice versa so straightforwardly. Ah memories!!!

Among other things, I miss the sounds it made when working with the pen tool.

There are some humorous Freehand vs. Illustrator videos that I found in the newsletter linked in Mr Downtown's link (I joined BTW):

[www.youtube.com]
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Re: FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: January 15, 2010 01:54PM
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steve...
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laarree

I always was fond of Freehand--it had some subtleties done right that still don't feel right in Illustrator to this days, such as the feel of its "snaps", and the fact that you could actually numerically position control handles on bezier points and toggle from corner to smooth point or vice versa so straightforwardly. Ah memories!!!

Among other things, I miss the sounds it made when working with the pen tool.

There are some humorous Freehand vs. Illustrator videos that I found in the newsletter linked in Mr Downtown's link (I joined BTW):

[www.youtube.com]
[www.youtube.com]




ARgh. You know how many years I've been trying to convince myself that Ai is better and that my preference for FH is just in my head? I could only watch one of those videos for a couple minutes before I was quickly reminded just how much Adobe kool aid I've drank. Now you try to get me sober again...

I started with FH with v.5. Although 6 was good, 7 & 8 got a little too glitzy for me with that new bounding box. I still like 5 & 6 for drawing. By 9 I still missed 5 & 6 but moved on. 9 was buggier, 10 was worse, but HORRIBLE on windows. I bought Studio MX and it only came with FH10. I was a little irritated.




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Re: FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: Mr Downtown
Date: January 15, 2010 08:28PM
You do know the bounding box was a pref, right? It lasted about two minutes until I found out how to turn it off.

And that's one of the other great things about FH (I don't yet speak of it in past tense, as I use it about six hours every day). There's about three different ways to do nearly everything, usually including numerically, in a floating palette, and in a menu command with a keyboard shortcut.
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Re: FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: January 16, 2010 12:10PM
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Mr Downtown
You do know the bounding box was a pref, right? It lasted about two minutes until I found out how to turn it off.

And that's one of the other great things about FH (I don't yet speak of it in past tense, as I use it about six hours every day). There's about three different ways to do nearly everything, usually including numerically, in a floating palette, and in a menu command with a keyboard shortcut.

Where were you 10 years ago? ;)

Yes, I completely agree with that. What was nice was sometimes using a different method worked better.




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I can't get it Freehand to install
Posted by: JEBB
Date: January 16, 2010 06:31PM
I thought it might be nice to try Freehand so I went to the site steve gave, downloaded the 11.02 version, double clicked on the downloaded file and it expanded to give a folder with two items, one called the installer. I double clicked on that and nothing. It sat there and tied up half of my CPU for a good while and went nowhere. I tried the whole procedure again; again nothing. Any advice? Thanks.

MacBook 2.0, 4GB, MacOS 10.6.2.
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Re: FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: steve...
Date: January 16, 2010 07:47PM
Hmmm, worked for me. Did you download and follow the instructions for the Registration File first?

"Download the following zip file, decompress and install it in the following location: Macintosh HD\Library\Application Support\Macromedia."

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Re: I can't get it Freehand to install
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: January 16, 2010 11:11PM
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JEBB
I thought it might be nice to try Freehand so I went to the site steve gave, downloaded the 11.02 version, double clicked on the downloaded file and it expanded to give a folder with two items, one called the installer. I double clicked on that and nothing. It sat there and tied up half of my CPU for a good while and went nowhere. I tried the whole procedure again; again nothing. Any advice? Thanks.

MacBook 2.0, 4GB, MacOS 10.6.2.

Do you have rosetta installed?




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Re: I can't get it Freehand to install
Posted by: JEBB
Date: January 17, 2010 11:02AM
I have Rosetta but I didn't get far enough to need it. It wouldn't install. Is there a difference in the programs that expand the .hqx files? Maybe an error was created in that process. I did download it a second time and got the same result. The installer shows two progress bars one is labeled "Items remaining to be installed: 1208" and the other is labeled "Searching MacBook HD" (MacBook HD is the name i've given my HD).



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Re: I can't get it Freehand to install
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: January 17, 2010 01:29PM
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JEBB
I have Rosetta but I didn't get far enough to need it. It wouldn't install. Is there a difference in the programs that expand the .hqx files? Maybe an error was created in that process. I did download it a second time and got the same result. The installer shows two progress bars one is labeled "Items remaining to be installed: 1208" and the other is labeled "Searching MacBook HD" (MacBook HD is the name i've given my HD).
How long is a "good while"? The installer can sit and 'think on it' for awhile. I was reading a book while I did it, so I'm not sure how long it was, but it wasn't quick. But once it gets going, the install from that point on is pretty fast.
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Re: I can't get it Freehand to install
Posted by: JEBB
Date: January 17, 2010 06:48PM
This time it did install after about an hour. The program crashes upon startup giving me this message:

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x000000008fc3b5bd
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

It went on from there.

What should I make of this?

Thanks
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Re: I can't get it Freehand to install
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: January 17, 2010 11:29PM
Not sure. The installer is going to use Rosetta too. The compressed file I had was a .hqx but apparently had stuffit compression so OS X couldn't decompress it. I had to download stuffit expander. Use the MacUpdate link as it doesn't require you to give a valid email address.




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Re: I can't get it Freehand to install
Posted by: JEBB
Date: January 18, 2010 09:36AM
I used Stuffit Expander 14.0 to expand the .hqx file. It gives two files one of which is named the installer. The installer took almost 2 hours the last time to install the 1208 files. Now that it is done and the folder and app in my Applications folder, it won't start. Upon double clicking the app icon it appears in the Dock but only for a short time and then it quits and the Dock icon goes away.
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Re: I can't get it Freehand to install
Posted by: JEBB
Date: January 18, 2010 09:44AM
When I attempt to start Freehand and it immediately stops this message is recorded in the Console:
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1/18/10 10:39:43 AM FreeHand MX[1379] Error loading /Library/QuickTime/Motion.component/Contents/MacOS/Motion: dlopen(/Library/QuickTime/Motion.component/Contents/MacOS/Motion, 262): Library not loaded: /Library/Frameworks/Motion.framework/Versions/A/Motion
Referenced from: /Library/QuickTime/Motion.component/Contents/MacOS/Motion
Reason: image not found
--------------------------------------------------------------

Any idea what this means?

Thanks.
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Re: FWIW, Adobe effectively made the last version of Freehand free
Posted by: mediumcool
Date: January 19, 2010 03:34AM
have 2 licences for FH MX

never goin' to give it up...
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