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what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: space-time
Date: March 27, 2010 06:28PM
I fired up the Weber charcoal grill first time this year and bought some New York Strip steaks. I lit the charcoal with en electric charcoal starter and waited another 15-20 minutes for the flames to die and have only the glowing charcoal left. So far so good. the problem is that juice/fat from the steak drips on the charcoal and starts a flame, and that burns the steak. I don't really like the taste or burned meat.

how do you guys do it?
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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: March 27, 2010 06:30PM
Four minutes each side. Then continue to cook to taste.



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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: AlphaDog
Date: March 27, 2010 06:33PM
Keep a plain old squirt bottle filled with water nearby. Squirt the flames, not the steak. smiling smiley
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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 27, 2010 06:44PM
.....go and get it from a good steakhouse restaurant....????????



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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: Spock
Date: March 27, 2010 06:48PM
Buy good meat.



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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: space-time
Date: March 27, 2010 06:50PM
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Spock
Buy good meat.

yeah, but if the cook is bad, it's a waste
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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: RonT
Date: March 27, 2010 06:50PM
Numero Uno - what spock said.
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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: March 27, 2010 06:53PM
Use a slightly leaner steak..
Water bottle, like AlphaDog suggests, and maybe raise the grill a bit higher over the coals.

Personally, I solved that problem by going to a gas grill...


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.....go and get it from a good steakhouse restaurant....????????

Heathen... you can't make good steak indoors!
Besides, 2/3 of "steakhouses" buy the meat that McDonalds has rejected to make their "steaks" (and I use those quotes on purpose).
To be fair, the other 1/3 of Steakhouses use perfectly good meat.



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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: mrthuse
Date: March 27, 2010 06:58PM
I trim fat from the steaks before grilling. Some grease will inevitably drip and flare, but the cleverly place squirt bottle takes care of that. Also, let the steaks come to room temp before grilling.

If you use a rub, let it sit on the room temp steaks for at least 20 mins before hitting the coals.

Sidebar: In camping situations, we put the raw steaks directly on the hot coals. The heat is so severe that there is charring, but no burning. Delicious.



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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: March 27, 2010 06:58PM
If you cook it beyond medium rare, you lose your steak eating license.
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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: March 27, 2010 07:05PM
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If you cook it beyond medium rare, you lose your steak eating license.

In some states, it's punishable by death...



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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: Ken Sp.
Date: March 27, 2010 07:05PM
I heard that you don't cook it evenly on both side. Cook it most of the way on one side which allows the heat to keep cooking upward, then flip it over for a short time to brown it on the other side for taste and color.

It continues to cook while on the serving plate.

There are lots of links to the "pack it in salt steakhouse" technique.
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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: M>B>
Date: March 27, 2010 07:11PM
Also, be sure you rest the meat after cooking...

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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: WHiiP
Date: March 27, 2010 08:30PM
The "secret" is to cook it as hot as you can, for as briefly as you can . . . HIGH heat for two, three, or four minutes per side. . , depending on your doneness preference. drink smiley



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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: March 27, 2010 08:36PM
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Paul F.
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If you cook it beyond medium rare, you lose your steak eating license.

In some states, it's punishable by death...

A lot of people are not aware of the fact that restaurants date the food in their walk-ins.

If you order a steak well done in a restaurant tonight, you will get a piece of meat that's destined to be tossed tomorrow...
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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: March 27, 2010 09:07PM
If someone orders a steak "well done", they deserve to get the rotten stuff!

Not that I have a strong opinion on the subject, or anything...



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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: JoeH
Date: March 27, 2010 09:21PM
That's your opinion. Mine is that chefs who do not know how to cook properly to any degree of doneness should be hung. slap smiley Personally I like my steak medium-rare to medium, and have gotten more than a few ruined by chefs who can't cook properly to that point. angry villagers smiley
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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: DP
Date: March 27, 2010 09:28PM
This is for a cover type grill-when the coals are ready, move them to one side of the grill. Sear the steaks over the coals to seal them then move the steaks to the other side to finish them.
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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: Plumbking
Date: March 27, 2010 09:33PM
Temperature is everything.

You have to know the temperature of your grill and the temperature of the meat you are cooking.

You have to know that the cooking temp rises 5 to 10 degrees after it is taken off.

I know how hot my grill is and have different zones ( sear, medium, warm etc.)

I also ask my "customers" how they like their steaks. For example FIL likes his ass wiped and stuck on a plate. MIL like a hockey puck. Grill accordingly.
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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: Winston
Date: March 27, 2010 09:50PM
I have two "secrets"

1. The meat needs to be as close as possible to room temperature. (This applies to cooking most meat, fish, etc.) If it's cold you'll have to cook the outside a lot more to cook the inside. This dries the meat out and takes away tenderness.

Aside from leaving the steak out for an hour, or more, before cooking I find that using a microwave on the lowest power setting is a good way to get a steak to room temp without cooking it. Flipping the steak over during the warming helps too. The best way to see if a steak is still cold is to touch it with your finger. If it feels cool, it's too cold. It shouldn't be warm, just a neutral temperature (a little warm is OK). You need to experiment with your microwave to see what works best for you. By using the lowest power setting (10% on my microwave) I can keep from cooking the meat and still take off the chill.

2. Letting the steak sit for 3-5 minutes after grilling both lets it finish cooking and sets the juices so they don't run out as much when you cut it. As Plumbking pointed out, meat continues to cook internally after you take it off of the grill. Having a warm place to keep the meat during this time keeps it from getting cold on the outside. Covering with foil can also help. This same advice is also important for roasts, but they need to stand for a bit longer.


Good luck.

- Winston

p.s. You will find that starting with a steak which is at room temperature makes it a lot easier to cook properly than cooking a cold steak right out of the fridge. You will have to worry less about the other details people have mentioned, with the possible exception of fat drips onto coals.



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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: neophyte
Date: March 27, 2010 10:18PM
To answer your original question: Cover the grill. Leave the top and bottom vents open. The smoke build-up prevents flames. This is especially important with lamb chops, which are fattier than beef. You may need to adjust the top vents to let out excess smoke but not all of it. Too much smoke will slow the natural draw of rising air and thus cool the coals. Just look through the top vents to make sure no flames are visible.

Do not cover the grill until you have meat on it.

I find that spritzing water on the coals can dislodge ashes which float up and coat the meat.
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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: Carm
Date: March 28, 2010 12:31AM
AlphaDog, Spock, PaulF, Winston,Plumbking seem to know what they are talking about popcorn smiley.

Gas is king here. Not portable stuff either. Hooked directly to house gas main.
Spray bottle or bowl of water works to snuff the grizzle fire. (No to bag on charcoals, but I just havent cooked with charcoal since I was a teenager.)

For chicken, I use set the grill at the medium to low setting.

Joe



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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: RgrF
Date: March 28, 2010 12:51AM
I flame it (lamb chops also) on all sides then slow cook until medium rare. This works with thick prime or choice cuts of almost any sort.

If you're using the select cuts offered by most chain supermarkets, think about marinating them for a day or so.
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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: space-time
Date: March 28, 2010 07:19AM
wow, lots of good tips, I feel like grilling again today, but it's supposed to rain sad smiley
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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: wowzer
Date: March 28, 2010 11:19AM
You can salt the meat about 1 hour bfefore cooking...it is supposed to tenderize the meat. I did this with a slice of beef round and it actually worked---but I wonder how much salt I'm ingesting as a result of doing this. Also salt costs money--so I'd say get a good cut of meat. I usually get the $100 rib eye from costco and cut it up myself.

I leave the fat on--the flames make a great char on the meat. However, I ude a propane weber and have given up in charcoal because control of the heat is hard to do...also dirty when I have to clean up the ash.

I'd agree that heat control is most important. I usually throw the meat on and crank the heat up to maximum and have the meat directly on the flames. After the over gets hot and flames start to lick the meat, I will flip the meat. Another few minutes and another quick flip (I don't remove the lid completely--just open a slit so you can keep the heat in the oven).

I usually serve the steaks slightl crunchy on the outside and raw on the inside. For medium rare, just flip a few extra times and lower the temp after charring/searing the outside. GL



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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 28, 2010 12:37PM
....the cow that it came from.....??????


....what it was fed....how it was massaged....?????



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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: space-time
Date: March 28, 2010 03:02PM
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....the cow that it came from.....??????


....what it was fed....how it was massaged....?????

second post in this thread, without any useful information. Other actually bothered to give advice.
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Re: what's the secret for a good grilled steak?
Posted by: Winston
Date: March 28, 2010 07:59PM
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space-time
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NewtonMP2100
....the cow that it came from.....??????


....what it was fed....how it was massaged....?????

second post in this thread, without any useful information. Other actually bothered to give advice.

Not so different from what Spock and RonT said, albeit the suggestion was a bit indirect.

And I missed acknowledging M>B> on letting the meat "rest". Sorry!


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