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I (heart) New York
Posted by: Grace62
Date: August 16, 2010 09:32PM
Manhattan professor wants it her way

Rosenthal, who is in her early 60s, asked for a toasted multigrain bagel -- and became enraged when the barista at the franchise, on Columbus Avenue at 86th Street, followed up by inquiring, "Do you want butter or cheese?"

"I just wanted a multigrain bagel," Rosenthal told The Post. "I refused to say 'without butter or cheese.' When you go to Burger King, you don't have to list the six things you don't want.

"Linguistically, it's stupid, and I'm a stickler for correct English."

The bagel brouhaha escalated until the manager called cops, and responding officers ordered her to leave, threatening to arrest her if she went back inside, she said.

"She would not answer. It was a reasonable question," the worker said.

"She called [the barista] an @#$%&."

An NYPD spokesman confirmed that officers were called to the coffee shop but said he was unaware of anyone being tossed out.


(Later that day the barista grabbed two grapefruit Izzies, told the remaining customers to get their own effing bagels, and exited via the store's walk-up window)
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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: kap
Date: August 16, 2010 09:50PM
I understand her frustration. My usual order of plain egg muffin often comes with things I have said not to include!



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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: decay
Date: August 16, 2010 10:25PM
a bit inflexible for one who lives in NYC, don't you think?



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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: Seacrest
Date: August 16, 2010 10:32PM
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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: blooz
Date: August 16, 2010 10:35PM
Hell, we have people like that in western Massachusetts.

i used to date one.



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—Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: $tevie
Date: August 16, 2010 10:57PM
Did she tell the barista to hold the butter and cheese between her knees?



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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: Seacrest
Date: August 16, 2010 10:58PM
Starbucks has lousy food, no matter how you order it.
What, there ain't no other places to cop a good bagel in Manhattan?





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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: August 16, 2010 11:02PM
......does she have tenure....??



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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: kap
Date: August 16, 2010 11:22PM
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Seacrest
Starbucks has lousy food, no matter how you order it.
Exactly!

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Seacrest
What, there ain't no other places to cop a good bagel in Manhattan?
I thought NY is well-known for its bagels, pizza, sirloin steaks and police department.



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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: Black
Date: August 16, 2010 11:34PM
I still (heart) you New York.

(would you like fries with that?)




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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: btfc
Date: August 17, 2010 12:14AM
"I thought NY is well-known for its bagels, pizza, sirloin steaks and police department."

Don't forget pastrami!
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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: graylocks
Date: August 17, 2010 12:39AM
you know, from my personal barista perspective, all the woman had to do was say "Nothing, thanks." maybe i'm reading too much into this but when a customer treats you with palpable disdain you eventually want to stake your claim on a small piece of ground that says hey, i'm a person, too. this sound like the dynamite that was going on here.

most of my store's customers are incredibly nice. a few are high maintenance with an enormous sense of entitlement and a deep-seated need to let you know that you are working at Starbucks and THEY are not.

and if you toast the bagels they are actually kind of nice. coffee smiley



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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: RgrF
Date: August 17, 2010 12:43AM
If compelled to take a stand, I can think of a whole bunch of better issues and places.
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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: laarree
Date: August 17, 2010 01:26AM
She is an @#$%&. What kind of chip does she have on her shoulder to do what she did?




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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: Mini 9
Date: August 17, 2010 05:30AM
We imagine that sort of stuff happens with every order. Hence soup nazi and such.
Never been to that city, but I would think living stacked on top of one another so densely raises a lot of tensions which results in being a bit over sensitive, impersonal, and as the video above uses the psych phrase encourages people to "ACT OUT".
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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: 3d
Date: August 17, 2010 06:46AM
Next time she orders a burger. Serve it to her raw because linguistically she didn't specify that it be cooked.
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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: August 17, 2010 07:38AM
I imagine her students hate her too. . An employee simply asks if you want something else, you say "no thank you".

What a rude biotch.
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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: neophyte
Date: August 17, 2010 08:49AM
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$tevie
Did she tell the barista to hold the butter and cheese between her knees?

Long time since I've seen that reference to "Five Easy Pieces".
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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: August 17, 2010 09:35AM
The biggest idiots are sometimes the ones who pride themselves the most on their "intelligence".
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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: $tevie
Date: August 17, 2010 09:47AM
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neophyte
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$tevie
Did she tell the barista to hold the butter and cheese between her knees?

Long time since I've seen that reference to "Five Easy Pieces".

I'm showing my age. ;)



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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: JoeM
Date: August 17, 2010 09:53AM
Maybe she is still in Mean-o-pause?



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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: JoeM
Date: August 17, 2010 09:54AM
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Blankity Blank
The biggest idiots are sometimes the ones who pride themselves the most on their "intelligence".

Amen!



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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: 3d
Date: August 17, 2010 10:16AM
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JoeM
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Blankity Blank
The biggest idiots are sometimes the ones who pride themselves the most on their "intelligence".

Amen!

Just click on the "Ignore this user" button. EASY! smile smiley
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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: Fritz
Date: August 17, 2010 10:22AM
the only smart thing Giuiani ever said.

'"NYC, we'll kick your city's ass."'
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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 17, 2010 11:02AM
well, not unusual, I have to say, but incredibly rude to someone who is making about $12/hour. I've worked in restaurants and retail and many, many times have had to deal with the entitled lot. they sure are a smarmy bunch!

(one time, while working in a take-out joint, this guy brought his dish back, disgusted that it contained bell peppers. he never said anything when ordering and demanded that we take it back. I was about ready to tell him where to put it when the owner phoned in and told us to just make him another one, no charge. I loathe the entitled crowd.)
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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: August 17, 2010 11:35AM
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mrbigstuff
(one time, while working in a take-out joint, this guy brought his dish back, disgusted that it contained bell peppers. he never said anything when ordering and demanded that we take it back. I was about ready to tell him where to put it when the owner phoned in and told us to just make him another one, no charge. I loathe the entitled crowd.)


.....I hope you added the 'special' ingredient to make his meal juicer....!! ;)



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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: graylocks
Date: August 17, 2010 12:06PM
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mrbigstuff
well, not unusual, I have to say, but incredibly rude to someone who is making about $12/hour.

$12! I wish...bunny smiley



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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: kap
Date: August 17, 2010 12:14PM
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graylocks
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mrbigstuff
well, not unusual, I have to say, but incredibly rude to someone who is making about $12/hour.

$12! I wish...bunny smiley

The last time I checked it was $10.



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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: graylocks
Date: August 17, 2010 12:40PM
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kap
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graylocks
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mrbigstuff
well, not unusual, I have to say, but incredibly rude to someone who is making about $12/hour.

$12! I wish...bunny smiley

The last time I checked it was $10.

I repeat - I wish. wiggle smiley The starting wage for any company usually varies from locale to locale. i'm would think (and hope) that the starting wage in NYC is higher than that on the south side of Atlanta.



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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: billb
Date: August 17, 2010 12:53PM
with or without the green card ?
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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 17, 2010 01:09PM
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graylocks
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kap
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graylocks
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mrbigstuff
well, not unusual, I have to say, but incredibly rude to someone who is making about $12/hour.

$12! I wish...bunny smiley

The last time I checked it was $10.

I repeat - I wish. wiggle smiley The starting wage for any company usually varies from locale to locale. i'm would think (and hope) that the starting wage in NYC is higher than that on the south side of Atlanta.

my thoughts exactly. I think it depends on the market, so I gave it a bump from $10 to $12 with Manhattan in mind.
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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: graylocks
Date: August 17, 2010 01:22PM
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billb
with or without the green card ?

don't know where you live but i've been in lots of Starbucks around the country. i've seen very few baristas that i would suspect of not being native born US citizens. in addition to strict hiring procedures handed down from corporate, you have to speak and understand english very well to handle the job. in that regard, many US born and educated high school graduates can't cut it either.



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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: laarree
Date: August 17, 2010 02:08PM
I find her guilty thumbs down of being an anti-social pedant.
"2. A person who is overly concerned with formal rules and trivial points of learning.
3. A person who emphasizes his/her knowledge through the use of vocabulary."

and being insensitively pedantic:
"1. Like a pedant, overly concerned with formal rules and trivial points of learning.
2. Being showy of one’s knowledge, often in a boring manner.
3. Being finicky or picky with language."

A pedant without butter or cream cheese, of course. bunny smiley




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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: Black
Date: August 17, 2010 08:34PM
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mrbigstuff
well, not unusual, I have to say, but incredibly rude to someone who is making about $12/hour.

Ah, whatever. I'm not justifying the behavior of this particular woman in this particular instance, but if someone earning $12 and hour does do something to get the goat of someone earning $35 an hour, I don't think there's some sort of crime against humanity committed if the higher earner speaks up for themself. For all you know that person dredged their way through $6 an hour jobs for years and made all kinds of sacrifices to get where they are.
I smell "rich guilt" in your response.




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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 17, 2010 10:43PM
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Black
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mrbigstuff
well, not unusual, I have to say, but incredibly rude to someone who is making about $12/hour.


I smell "rich guilt" in your response.

yeah, whatever.
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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: GeneL
Date: August 18, 2010 03:06AM
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blooz
Hell, we have people like that in western Massachusetts..

Are you in the "heart of the Berkshires?"

I spent every summer, from 1942 to 1954 at a summer camp in Becket, Mass.

Camp Watitoh

I still remember it as one of the most beautiful places I've ever lived.
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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: billb
Date: August 18, 2010 09:49AM
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graylocks
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billb
with or without the green card ?

don't know where you live but i've been in lots of Starbucks around the country. i've seen very few baristas that i would suspect of not being native born US citizens. in addition to strict hiring procedures handed down from corporate, you have to speak and understand english very well to handle the job. in that regard, many US born and educated high school graduates can't cut it either.

This is Dunkin Donuts country.
You're lucky to get a grunt when the hand hands you what you hope is what you ordered.
:-)


We get waves of immigrants here (both kinds) , mostly Guatemalans right now. Kinda used to pointing and holding up fingers indicating numbers. At least Guatemalans smile all the time.
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Re: I (heart) New York
Posted by: d0e
Date: August 18, 2010 10:58AM
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Seacrest
Starbucks has lousy food, no matter how you order it.
What, there ain't no other places to cop a good bagel in Manhattan?
b&h bagels FTW!
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