Seriously.

"Some of my best friends are...." no, that's not it.

Here we go:

I have kids here around me that are black kids. I call them my own kids. I’ve helped black families…to guide them in the right direction.

There's none so blind as those who will not see.

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That gave me a little headache. The n-word is not racist, according to her dictionary. I see.

"And besides Obama is not even black. He’s got a mixture of race. It’s his choice of what his nationality is."

What the h-e-double hockey sticks is she talking about?

If it wasn't offensive, it wouldn't be a bumper sticker.

What I find interesting about many of these overt racists is that when you confront them about it they deny and they come up with lame irrational excuses like "the n word isn't necessarily about black people". either they are lying sobs or something in their brain short circuits and they go temporarily insane when confronted with their own racism.

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If it wasn't offensive, it wouldn't be a bumper sticker.

It's as offensive as you need it to be.

if you're not offended by that sticker, you're in agreement with the person driving that car.

i could see sticking up for "renege," even though it's still obvious what the message is.

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if you're not offended by that sticker, you're in agreement with the person driving that car.

Not sure what to do with this.

of·fend (-fnd)
v. of·fend·ed, of·fend·ing, of·fends
v.tr.
1. To cause displeasure, anger, resentment, or wounded feelings in.
2. To be displeasing or disagreeable to: Onions offend my sense of smell.
3.
a. To transgress; violate: offend all laws of humanity.
b. To cause to sin.
v.intr.
1. To result in displeasure: Bad manners may offend.
2.
a. To violate a moral or divine law; sin.
b. To violate a rule or law: offended against the curfew.

I would characterize my reaction, if I stop to think about it, as surprise, dismay, disappointment, frustration, maybe with a hint of hopelessness and despair about the future of this country. But I'm not going to give the person who stuck it on their car the power of "offense."

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Below-room-temperature IQ.

Depends: what is the temperature of Hell?

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Here we go:

I have kids here around me that are black kids. I call them my own kids. I’ve helped black families…to guide them in the right direction.

Isn't that a swampy quote?

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If it wasn't offensive, it wouldn't be a bumper sticker.

It's as offensive as you need it to be.

It is offensive, period. The person that has it on their car and the people selling the stickers are about as low grade as it gets.

You know damn well if the tables were turned and this were a racial slam at a GOP president, the right-wingers would never let us hear the end of it.

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If it wasn't offensive, it wouldn't be a bumper sticker.

It's as offensive as you need it to be.

It is offensive, period. The person that has it on their car and the people selling the stickers are about as low grade as it gets.

You know damn well if the tables were turned and this were a racial slam at a GOP president, the right-wingers would never let us hear the end of it.

I agree with bill's point-- you participate in the offensiveness by calling attention to it.
These stickers have been kicking around quite a while but the "outrage" has been brief and viral.
Great score for whoever came up with the original idea.

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Where I will agree that saying a word over and over will make it lose its power (eventually), it does not make it less offensive to many of us now. Whatever ethnicity you are, if the most offensive insult possible was thrown your way, would you feel that it was ok if done in a "creative" way? I doubt it.

There have been racist messages around for a long time and people who continue to show this crap do not need to be given a pass, because you think it is a "great score."

The people who contune this garbage are just low grade.

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Don't Re-Nig is a racist statement - period. If racist statements don't bother you - fine, but it doesn't mean that the statement is not racist.

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Don't Re-Nig is a racist statement - period. If racist statements don't bother you - fine, but it doesn't mean that the statement is not racist.

Exactly.

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If it wasn't offensive, it wouldn't be a bumper sticker.

It's as offensive as you need it to be.

It is offensive, period. The person that has it on their car and the people selling the stickers are about as low grade as it gets.

You know damn well if the tables were turned and this were a racial slam at a GOP president, the right-wingers would never let us hear the end of it.

I agree with bill's point-- you participate in the offensiveness by calling attention to it.
These stickers have been kicking around quite a while but the "outrage" has been brief and viral.
Great score for whoever came up with the original idea.

If John wants to be the forum clown troll spewing his usual putrid offensive hate and vitriol that's his choice. Seems to be about the only thing he's good at and for. He can be proud of it for all I care.

When you're partially black you're witness to all manner of stupidity and ignorance. His is nothing new to me.

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Where I will agree that saying a word over and over will make it lose its power (eventually), it does not make it less offensive to many of us now. Whatever ethnicity you are, if the most offensive insult possible was thrown your way, would you feel that it was ok if done in a "creative" way? I doubt it.

There have been racist messages around for a long time and people who continue to show this crap do not need to be given a pass, because you think it is a "great score."

The people who contune this garbage are just low grade.

I said absolutely nothing of the sort.
So fine, let's have another thread where everyone lines up to declare their non-racism by decrying this particular slogan in the harshest of terms to a like-minded auduence.

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Don't Re-Nig is a racist statement - period. If racist statements don't bother you - fine, but it doesn't mean that the statement is not racist.

Exactly.

The only one claiming it's not racist is Aunt Bee the sticker lady-- I don't think anyone posting here has claimed anything of the sort.

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Stop playing hall monitor, Black. It's getting tiresome.

Tiresome is the tired old "I'll make a strong anti-racist statement with no inidication of what it is I actually want to happen for no reason other than to hopefully make someone or everyone else look more racist than me" game.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/20/2012 12:38PM by Black.

That's a load of BS. There's nothing that CAN happen. This is America, where people can print offensive bumper stickers and other people can complain about it. Get over it.

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Deeply ingrained, institutional racism is alive and well in the US, and it doesn't just offend people, it kills them, and them it lets the killer off the hook, at least until other people complain. The bumper sticker is only a mild symptom of the ugliness that still possess us. I think it's good to complain about all the symptoms if you want to get at the illness.

Trayvon Martin. George Zimmerman. Seminole County, FL.
Dept. of Justice.

I think Black brought up an interesting point. Do blatantly racist statements benefit or suffer from greater exposure? Racism is a chronic problem, it should be addressed as such. Emphasis on acute instances, may or may not help that chronic problem. In a perfect world, we could address the chronic problem without giving greater exposure to the acute instances. Of course, we are not in a perfect world and there will be exposure to these acts. But what should be our response?

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If John wants to be the forum clown troll...

Funny that when you are getting the worst end of these threads that you point to others as being an issue.

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The "re-nig" bumper sticker is not getting nearly the exposure that the Trayvon Martin killing is. Both deserve attention, obviously not in equal amounts.
I don't think there is any problem here with disproportionate exposure.

Another example, at the state leg level we have unfair and racist treatment of immigrants, especially those from Mexico and Central America. This deserves a lot of attention and heat and response from the federal gov't, which it is getting.
Then you have idiots like the Mississippi college students who chanted ugly remarks at the basketball player from Puerto Rico, during the NCAA tournament. That deserves attention and it got addressed. Doesn't rise to the level of the institutionalized racism at the state house, but is a symptom of the same disease. It all deserves to be noticed.
We can send a collective message that it's not acceptable, at any level.

I hate to burst everyone's bubble, but internet forum discussions have nowhere near the reach of television news. I contend that there are literally millions and millions of people who have no idea this bumper sticker exists and will continue to never know for the rest of their days, because they don't follow message boards.

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I hate to burst everyone's bubble, but internet forum discussions have nowhere near the reach of television news.

I'm not entirely convinced by this statement. The usage of "forum discussions" qualifies the statement, but I think the reach of the internet is quite large.

and the internet also gives us stats on how frequently a topic is coming up. If you google "re-nig bumper sticker" you get 2.9 million hits. Not sure how long that topic has been around, but maybe since 2010.
If you google "Trayvon Martin" you get 293 million hits, and this just happened a few weeks ago.

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I hate to burst everyone's bubble, but internet forum discussions have nowhere near the reach of television news.

I'm not entirely convinced by this statement. The usage of "forum discussions" qualifies the statement, but I think the reach of the internet is quite large.

Perhaps, but I see a tendency here to equate "Macresource Forums" with the internet. When people ask us (Forumites) to ignore someone or something because we are only encouraging them, I always want to laugh.

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If John wants to be the forum clown troll...

Funny that when you are getting the worst end of these threads that you point to others as being an issue.

Watching the same old trained seals jump through the same old hoops with ease is hardly the losing end, my friend.

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