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| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 26, 2012 06:30PM |
Harry kept .9Billion for the Mustang Ranch Project and Terminal *(:>*
“Stay Hungry Stay Foolish"
"There are only two mantras yummm and yuk "
"There is a fine line between a rut and a groove"
"I got to that part and I knew there was going to be some weapons grade stupid to follow"Lux Interior
"When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then
will you discover you cannot eat money."
~ Cree Prophecy
“Stay Hungry Stay Foolish"
"There are only two mantras yummm and yuk "
"There is a fine line between a rut and a groove"
"I got to that part and I knew there was going to be some weapons grade stupid to follow"Lux Interior
"When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then
will you discover you cannot eat money."
~ Cree Prophecy
| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 26, 2012 06:39PM |
The casinos want it and at least tens of thousands of visitors would use it instead of driving. Not having to drive would mean people could arrive partly drunk and ready to lose. Lost Wages might even become a minor transportation hub for some the recreation in the area.
in tha 510.
in tha 510.| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 26, 2012 07:00PM |
I wonder how many tons of pollution would be eliminated by having a train route, highway deaths eliminated and Radar Speed traps eliminated. I am sure there are many other advantages to a train
route from L.A. to Los Vegas *(:>*
“Stay Hungry Stay Foolish"
"There are only two mantras yummm and yuk "
"There is a fine line between a rut and a groove"
"I got to that part and I knew there was going to be some weapons grade stupid to follow"Lux Interior
"When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then
will you discover you cannot eat money."
~ Cree Prophecy
route from L.A. to Los Vegas *(:>*
“Stay Hungry Stay Foolish"
"There are only two mantras yummm and yuk "
"There is a fine line between a rut and a groove"
"I got to that part and I knew there was going to be some weapons grade stupid to follow"Lux Interior
"When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then
will you discover you cannot eat money."
~ Cree Prophecy
| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 26, 2012 07:03PM |
| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 26, 2012 07:05PM |
trains suck! cars rule!!
| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 26, 2012 07:13PM |
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mattkime
trains suck! cars rule!!
Unless you have a canister of Ether, a case of Jack Daniels, some magic dust, a 6'13" Samoan Attorney,
A Red Shark, the vision of a Ministers daughter in your hotel room with a dozen grapefruit, 6 bars of Newtragena including a boom box playing White Rabbit, Tennis shoes with suction cups take the train *(:>*
edit: do not forget you will need to have someone available to take delivery of a Vincent Black Shadow
“Stay Hungry Stay Foolish"
"There are only two mantras yummm and yuk "
"There is a fine line between a rut and a groove"
"I got to that part and I knew there was going to be some weapons grade stupid to follow"Lux Interior
"When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then
will you discover you cannot eat money."
~ Cree Prophecy
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/26/2012 07:22PM by haikuman.
| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 26, 2012 07:14PM |
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Plumbking
Where the hell is Los Vegas?
I wanna go to Vegas baby, Las Vegas!
Errr get with the program PlumKling *(:>*
“Stay Hungry Stay Foolish"
"There are only two mantras yummm and yuk "
"There is a fine line between a rut and a groove"
"I got to that part and I knew there was going to be some weapons grade stupid to follow"Lux Interior
"When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then
will you discover you cannot eat money."
~ Cree Prophecy
| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 26, 2012 07:23PM |
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Black
I want there to be a train to everywhere, and I'm happy as a clam to have my tax money subsidize it to whatever extent necessary.
Thanks for asking!
"Stop thinking about art works as objects, and start thinking about them as triggers for experiences." ~ Brian Eno
| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 26, 2012 10:42PM |
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billb
More and more are flying because it is cheaper. Faster.
Especially EasyJet, even with all the fees.
A two hour flight is often a 10 or more hour train ride.
Depends on the distance and even where the flight time is a little less, the journey time can be the same as the trains go city center to city center. Less stress and you get to see a little of the countryside when you travel by train.
With EasyJet and RyanAir you travel cattle class, you get what you pay for.
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| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 27, 2012 10:58AM |
>>Taxpayer funded high speed intercity rail in the US is a boondoggle, pure and simple...
how does it differ from taxpayer funded highways?
how does it differ from taxpayer funded highways?
| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 27, 2012 02:24PM |
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$tevie
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Black
I want there to be a train to everywhere, and I'm happy as a clam to have my tax money subsidize it to whatever extent necessary.
Thanks for asking!
Oh, why don't you commies learn to drive like Americans.
| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 27, 2012 02:28PM |
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Grace62
Transportation infrastructure is good.
People realize this is a private company that would build and own the DesertExpress, right? It's not a public transportation project. They are seeking a loan of $4.9 billion from the gov't, yet they don't have any good ridership estimates and the route doesn't make a lot of sense in terms of reducing traffic or improving convenience.
I love to love trains and I want to see high speed rail come to America, but in a way that makes sense.
Not so sure about this project, especially given the political background around it. Need more info.
[www.google.com]
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Executive Summary
Freedom Transit is a passenger and long haul freight system that will utilize electric vehicles to transport single passengers or families along a high speed automated platform between metropolitan areas throughout the United States. The platform roadway could be built above or beside existing interstate highways. A variety of body types and technical adaptations could be manufactured to work in the Freedom Transit system. The passenger could rent a car at the station to embark on a trip or use his own electric vehicle, provided that the simple specifications fit the system.
The long-haul freight system would use the same technology. However, it would use electric, automated truck cabs to pull existing freight trailers across the country on a platform built above or next to existing railroad tracks. Conventional or electric truck cabs would deliver these trailers to their destination from regional freight terminals.
Freedom Transit is a high-speed transportation system that will:
[www.solarroadways.com]
The Solar Roadway is an intelligent road that provides clean renewable energy, while providing safer driving conditions, along with power and data delivery. The Solar Roadway will pay for itself through the generation of electricity along with other forms of revenue. The same money that is being used to build and resurface current roads can be used to build the Solar Roadways. Then, since coal-fired and nuclear power plants will no longer be needed, the costs of all electricity generation plants can also be rolled back into the Solar Roadways. Add too the costs of power distribution systems (power poles, relay stations, etc.)
To many Americans, the I-35W disaster in Minnesota wasn't an isolated tragedy, but the latest in a barrage of infrastructure failures from the northeastern blackout in 2003, and the breached New Orleans levees in 2005, to falling concrete in Boston's Big Dig in 2006.
The U.S. highway system is broken. And it's not clear where the money is going to come from to fix it.
Amid a steady rise in congestion and ongoing deterioration of decades-old roads and bridges, federal and state funding is failing to keep up with the need to maintain existing infrastructure and increase capacity. And the cash shortfall is only going to get worse.
"There is crumbling infrastructure all over the country", said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada
Forty-five percent of the money spent on American roads comes to the states from the Federal Government. The list of projects in need of repair is extensive, according to TRIP, a national transportation research group:
33% of the nation's major roads are in "poor or mediocre condition."
36% of major urban highways are congested.
26% of bridges are "structurally deficient or functionally obsolete."
“Stay Hungry Stay Foolish"
"There are only two mantras yummm and yuk "
"There is a fine line between a rut and a groove"
"I got to that part and I knew there was going to be some weapons grade stupid to follow"Lux Interior
"When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then
will you discover you cannot eat money."
~ Cree Prophecy
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| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 27, 2012 02:40PM |
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Gutenberg
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$tevie
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Black
I want there to be a train to everywhere, and I'm happy as a clam to have my tax money subsidize it to whatever extent necessary.
Thanks for asking!
Oh, why don't you commies learn to drive like Americans.
| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 27, 2012 03:23PM |
hm, maybe this is more fair than i thought, but i thought income and property taxes played a considerable role in paving our streets. maybe i'm wrong.
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Grace62
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mattkime
there should be a lot more toll booths if thats the case.Quote
Mr Downtown
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mattkime
how does it differ from taxpayer funded highways?
Highways—at least (for simplicity) the numbered highway system—are paid for entirely by their users, not by general taxation. Local streets are currently only about half paid for by motorists, but that's not too bad, since a century ago motorists paid nothing.
Most highway funding comes from excise taxes on gasoline. You also pay fees you pay to the DMV to register your car that can go to transportation projects . Toll booths are another way of collecting fees but not the most common.
| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 27, 2012 03:25PM |
"""When I said "need more info" I meant relevant information. What does any of that have to do with the Desert Express train and how does it answer any of the legitimate and specific concerns raised about the feasibility of that project """
Funny stuff as usual Grace.
Holy Kama Sutra tunnel vision is so much fun *(:>* As usual you have the only legitimate answers
and relevant info . . . congratulations . . . meh
[www.solarroadways.com]
[www.google.com]
[www.fra.dot.gov]
“Stay Hungry Stay Foolish"
"There are only two mantras yummm and yuk "
"There is a fine line between a rut and a groove"
"I got to that part and I knew there was going to be some weapons grade stupid to follow"Lux Interior
"When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then
will you discover you cannot eat money."
~ Cree Prophecy
Edited 7 time(s). Last edit at 03/27/2012 03:39PM by haikuman.
Funny stuff as usual Grace.
Holy Kama Sutra tunnel vision is so much fun *(:>* As usual you have the only legitimate answers
and relevant info . . . congratulations . . . meh
[www.solarroadways.com]
[www.google.com]
[www.fra.dot.gov]
“Stay Hungry Stay Foolish"
"There are only two mantras yummm and yuk "
"There is a fine line between a rut and a groove"
"I got to that part and I knew there was going to be some weapons grade stupid to follow"Lux Interior
"When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then
will you discover you cannot eat money."
~ Cree Prophecy
Edited 7 time(s). Last edit at 03/27/2012 03:39PM by haikuman.
| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 27, 2012 05:26PM |
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Grace62
Transportation infrastructure is good.
People realize this is a private company that would build and own the DesertExpress, right? It's not a public transportation project. They are seeking a loan of $4.9 billion from the gov't, yet they don't have any good ridership estimates and the route doesn't make a lot of sense in terms of reducing traffic or improving convenience.
I love to love trains and I want to see high speed rail come to America, but in a way that makes sense.
Not so sure about this project, especially given the political background around it. Need more info.
What a novel idea get more info prior to laying down all the negativity and spin
“Stay Hungry Stay Foolish"
"There are only two mantras yummm and yuk "
"There is a fine line between a rut and a groove"
"I got to that part and I knew there was going to be some weapons grade stupid to follow"Lux Interior
"When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then
will you discover you cannot eat money."
~ Cree Prophecy
| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 27, 2012 07:26PM |
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haikuman
Holy Kama Sutra tunnel vision is so much fun *(:>* As usual you have the only legitimate answers
and relevant info . . . congratulations . . . meh
[www.solarroadways.com]
[www.google.com]
[www.fra.dot.gov]
Taking different positions is fun but let's keep the kama sutra out of it.
Your links don't answer the questions Rudie. If you think they do, help me out by pointing out the info.
How many people will drive 100 miles away from LA through heavy traffic, park their car, pay for parking, pay for a train ticket, then ride the rest of the way (another 170) by train, then have no car when they get to Vegas? Very little, if any, time is saved and the driver has to deal with the worst part of traffic, which is the first 100 miles.
Will anyone from Nevada take a train 170 miles then get dropped off 100 miles from a city with no connecting transportation except car rental?
How does that make sense?
I love trains as I 've said many times before, but for people living in socal who would be the customers for this train, a lot of it doesn't make sense.
I would rather support high speed rail that connects to major metro areas, as it does in other countries, and have it be successful rather than lend money to this private company then have it go bankrupt in 5 years and give the people who hate rail something to crow about.
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| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 27, 2012 07:38PM |
Lets turn it around Grace . . .
Why are you ignoring the alternatives to Desert Express . . .
And lets clarify Grace is there heavy traffic or not ?
Are you sure you understand the plan
Inquiring slimes want to know *(:>*
Quote Grace:
"People realize this is a private company that would build and own the DesertExpress, right? It's not a public transportation project. They are seeking a loan of $4.9 billion from the gov't, yet they don't have any good ridership estimates and the route doesn't make a lot of sense in terms of reducing traffic or improving convenience."
Finally, why should your conjecture be considered the outcome and gospel of Desert Express ?
Quote Grace:
"""How many people will drive 100 miles away from LA through heavy traffic, park their car, pay for parking, pay for a train ticket, then ride the rest of the way (another 170) by train, then have no car when they get to Vegas? Very little, if any, time is saved and the driver has to deal with the worst part of traffic, which is the first 100 miles.
"Will anyone from Nevada take a train 170 miles then get dropped off 100 miles from a city with no connecting transportation except car rental?
How does that make sense?
I love trains as I 've said many times before, but for people living in socal who would be the customers for this train, a lot of it doesn't make sense.
I would rather support high speed rail that connects to major metro areas, as it does in other countries, and have it be successful rather than lend money to this private company then have it go bankrupt in 5 years and give the people who hate rail something to crow about.
Spinning your point of view again Grace, but not really graced with any fact . . . ooops ~!~
“Stay Hungry Stay Foolish"
"There are only two mantras yummm and yuk "
"There is a fine line between a rut and a groove"
"I got to that part and I knew there was going to be some weapons grade stupid to follow"Lux Interior
"When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then
will you discover you cannot eat money."
~ Cree Prophecy
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 03/27/2012 07:46PM by haikuman.
Why are you ignoring the alternatives to Desert Express . . .
And lets clarify Grace is there heavy traffic or not ?
Are you sure you understand the plan
Inquiring slimes want to know *(:>*Quote Grace:
"People realize this is a private company that would build and own the DesertExpress, right? It's not a public transportation project. They are seeking a loan of $4.9 billion from the gov't, yet they don't have any good ridership estimates and the route doesn't make a lot of sense in terms of reducing traffic or improving convenience."
Finally, why should your conjecture be considered the outcome and gospel of Desert Express ?
Quote Grace:
"""How many people will drive 100 miles away from LA through heavy traffic, park their car, pay for parking, pay for a train ticket, then ride the rest of the way (another 170) by train, then have no car when they get to Vegas? Very little, if any, time is saved and the driver has to deal with the worst part of traffic, which is the first 100 miles.
"Will anyone from Nevada take a train 170 miles then get dropped off 100 miles from a city with no connecting transportation except car rental?
How does that make sense?
I love trains as I 've said many times before, but for people living in socal who would be the customers for this train, a lot of it doesn't make sense.
I would rather support high speed rail that connects to major metro areas, as it does in other countries, and have it be successful rather than lend money to this private company then have it go bankrupt in 5 years and give the people who hate rail something to crow about.
Spinning your point of view again Grace, but not really graced with any fact . . . ooops ~!~
“Stay Hungry Stay Foolish"
"There are only two mantras yummm and yuk "
"There is a fine line between a rut and a groove"
"I got to that part and I knew there was going to be some weapons grade stupid to follow"Lux Interior
"When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then
will you discover you cannot eat money."
~ Cree Prophecy
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 03/27/2012 07:46PM by haikuman.
| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 27, 2012 07:48PM |
Grace, never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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| Re: Train to Los Vegas? do you want one. Date: March 27, 2012 07:50PM |
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Spock
Grace, never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
I've been l@@king forward to your genius Spooky
“Stay Hungry Stay Foolish"
"There are only two mantras yummm and yuk "
"There is a fine line between a rut and a groove"
"I got to that part and I knew there was going to be some weapons grade stupid to follow"Lux Interior
"When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then
will you discover you cannot eat money."
~ Cree Prophecy
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/27/2012 07:51PM by haikuman.
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