why has there been no media coverage of this incident........ in OKLA ..Tyrone Woodfork. If you care to investigate just google the name Tyrone Woodfork.

'Seems like there's far less to debate in the Tyrone Woodfork case.

Is he claiming that it was self defense when he murdered and raped that woman?

What's the connection between the two cases?

The person to whom you refer is accused of a very horrible crime and has been arrested and will be tried, correct?

Why is it so hard for people to understand what the problem was in the Trayvon Martin case? It's not just that there was a murder.

There was a murder and the person who did the shooting and killing was not arrested and would not have been charged had it not been for persistent follow-up by the parents and their attorneys. Our justice system is not supposed to work like that.

"no media coverage"

What's all that stuff when you google his name?

Yes the Zimmerman case was over hyped. However, it got him arrested. Deservedly. So all the brouhaha was worth it in this case.

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Yes the Zimmerman case was over hyped. However, it got him arrested. Deservedly. So all the brouhaha was worth it in this case.

...Assuming that he's guilty.

His guilt or not needs to be determined in a court, not at the police station the night of the crime. And only the determined parents got the case to that point.

Anyway, this other fella in a case that is tragic but appears to be proceeding normally is the hot topic in the unsavory corners of the right wing blogosphere I see. "He could be Obama's son too," lots of n-word references, pro-gun sites, etc. They're ablaze with this case.
Sad.

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Yes the Zimmerman case was over hyped. However, it got him arrested. Deservedly. So all the brouhaha was worth it in this case.

...Assuming that he's guilty.

You think everyone arrested is guilty? There was enough suspicion for the lead detective to try and get an arrest warrant for 2 weeks. This case needs to be tried. Sending the guy home free and clear was not right.

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Yes the Zimmerman case was over hyped. However, it got him arrested. Deservedly. So all the brouhaha was worth it in this case.

...Assuming that he's guilty.

You think everyone arrested is guilty?

Huh? No.

I think that harassing, torturing, bankrupting and making pariahs from innocent people is bad, even if that's the way that our legal justice system works itself out.

It's only "deserved" if he's guilty.

This looks like an Emily Litella braindump to mick e.

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Yes the Zimmerman case was over hyped. However, it got him arrested. Deservedly. So all the brouhaha was worth it in this case.

...Assuming that he's guilty.

You think everyone arrested is guilty?

Huh? No.

I think that harassing, torturing, bankrupting and making pariahs from innocent people is bad, even if that's the way that our legal justice system works itself out.

It's only "deserved" if he's guilty.

In your mind it's only deserved if guilty. Not mine.

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Yes the Zimmerman case was over hyped. However, it got him arrested. Deservedly. So all the brouhaha was worth it in this case.

...Assuming that he's guilty.

You think everyone arrested is guilty?

Huh? No.

I think that harassing, torturing, bankrupting and making pariahs from innocent people is bad, even if that's the way that our legal justice system works itself out.

Are you saying that's the case with Zimmerman? I'm not clear?

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Yes the Zimmerman case was over hyped. However, it got him arrested. Deservedly. So all the brouhaha was worth it in this case.

...Assuming that he's guilty.

You think everyone arrested is guilty?

Huh? No.

I think that harassing, torturing, bankrupting and making pariahs from innocent people is bad, even if that's the way that our legal justice system works itself out.

It's only "deserved" if he's guilty.

In your mind it's only deserved if guilty. Not mine.

I'm just not a sadist at heart.

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why has there been no media coverage of this incident........ in OKLA ..Tyrone Woodfork. If you care to investigate just google the name Tyrone Woodfork.

apparently there's so little media coverage that you couldn't provide a link.

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why has there been no media coverage of this incident........ in OKLA ..Tyrone Woodfork. If you care to investigate just google the name Tyrone Woodfork.

apparently there's so little media coverage that you couldn't provide a week.

Snark, wording error, and punctuation.
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This looks like an Emily Litella braindump to mick e.

The comment that sums it up.

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why has there been no media coverage of this incident.

Look up "Man bites dog."

Wow. Reading the wingnuts on the subject of Tyrone Woodfork is like strolling through Jim Crow's cesspool.

What I appreciate is that samintx makes her point, and then comes back to the thread to respond to points made by other posters. That way, she actually engages posters in discussion in a thoughtful manner.








Oh, wait.....

Well, that was engaging.

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What I appreciate is that samintx makes her point, and then comes back to the thread to respond to points made by other posters. That way, she actually engages posters in discussion in a thoughtful manner.



Oh, wait.....

I don't understand how Suzanne found this story. It was not on FoxNation.com or on her local FOX affiliate website.

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in tha 510.

Holy smokes. I did Google Tyrone Woodfork, and I saw some of the most disgusting racist web sites I've ever had the misfortune to come across. I feel like I need to use a Brillo pad on my eyes.

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Gee Suzanne, when I did what you asked...this is what I get:

- Tyrone Woodfork could be Obama's son too? - Topix

- Speaking of Hate Crimes Tyrone Woodfork | Your Ni**er President

- Obama's Son Tyrone Woodfork | Occidental Dissent

- STOP MARXISM: Obama's son Tyrone Woodfork?

Please come back to the thread so we can discuss these FASCINATING pieces of information!!

Funny how the stories they forward always have a LARGE following of racists and/or hateful people supporting the same stance they do.

What are the odds of that?

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why has there been no media coverage of this incident

abject fear


you won't even find many people with the cajones to discuss it reasonably nor rationally

Tyrone Woodfork was arrested and charged with the crimes. I don't get how this has anything to do with Zimmerman at.all.

If you mean that the media only reports "white on black" crimes, then you must think that the Trayvon Martin case was the only instance of such a thing in the last year. Is that what you really think? That only one black person was the victim of a white criminal in 12 months or more? As if.

If you mean that the media doesn't report "black on white" crimes, then you are really smoking crack.

OR did you just mean that it would be nice to be sure that people had a good excuse to post racist rants on the internet, and you wanted to help them find it?

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The Trayvon Martin case was a deliberate attempt to use the media to raise awareness of the fact that Zimmerman was going to walk free. Media relations is a very common tool in the 21st Century and it's a legitimate one for that matter.

When they tell us that Tyrone Woodfork acted in self defense by Standing His Ground and is going to be released without charges, give us a ring.

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A nurse at work mentioned she was writing a paper for a class contrasting Trayvon Martin to Emmett Till.
Gladly we were interrupted and I didn't hear more . . .

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I'd have been kind of curious to know if she thought they were similar, or not. Till was mentioned far too often during the Zimmerman controversy, which kind of upset me because that was a truly horrific crime and a gross miscarriage of justice and I didn't want to see it reduced to an analogy for anything let alone the Trayvon Martin case.

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I'd have been kind of curious to know if she thought they were similar, or not. Till was mentioned far too often during the Zimmerman controversy, which kind of upset me because that was a truly horrific crime and a gross miscarriage of justice and I didn't want to see it reduced to an analogy for anything let alone the Trayvon Martin case.

I thought briefly of following up but was afraid I might just find that she didn't have much knowledge of either story. Lots of folks I come in contact with every day never heard of Trayvon Martin or George Zimmerman, so just knowing the names puts her ahead of the curve . . .

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I think it's good that young Americans (or any Americans) learn the Emmett Till story.
Doesn't hurt to think about it.
The cases are obviously quite different but if we're talking about a law enforcement community's rather casual acceptance of the death of a young black person, then you could certainly draw some parallels.

There are SOME parallels. An essay contrasting Trayvon Martin to Emmett Till doesn't necessarily mean that she was intending to equate them. By definition, she'd be citing the differences in the cases.

I have no doubt that Sam assumes that we're all just a bunch of silly people that are so far from the real world that there is simply no point in discussing ANYTHING here, but enjoys inserting these iron clad slam dunk kinda proofs of her world view. As far as she's concerned, she's right and the rest of us are nuts.

It seems that we are now discussing, in what could be called a harassing manner, the poster and not the topic. I think we're trying to avoid that.

I don't know samintex and won't try to guess the motivations. Probably best to let people speak for themselves.

I'm not harassing anyone- geez... but I am trying to guess her motivations... how is that harassment? Did I call her a bad name? Did I say anything bad about her?

but then, I'm just speaking for myself...

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Did I say anything bad about her?

I wouldn't describe your comment as a compliment.

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There are SOME parallels. An essay contrasting Trayvon Martin to Emmett Till doesn't necessarily mean that she was intending to equate them. By definition, she'd be citing the differences in the cases.

Oh I agree-- but I get bit pretty badly with extreme ignorance most of the time I participate in political discussions in the workplace, and just getting my work done takes enough out of my all too limited cognitive and emotional capacity...

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How about just ending this silly thread. The OP was a ridiculous piece of troll bait irrelevant to the issues in the Trayvon Martin case. It's a travesty that the most ridiculous and nonsensical posts are the ones that attract the most attention. Just say no to feeding the troll.

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How about just ending this silly thread. The OP was a ridiculous piece of troll bait irrelevant to the issues in the Trayvon Martin case. It's a travesty that the most ridiculous and nonsensical posts are the ones that attract the most attention. Just say no to feeding the troll.

Can we get a little animated Hitler with a pancake on his head added to the gif arsenal?

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