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Tracy Thorne-Begland was a 20 year veteran in the Navy. He became one of the top prosecutors in Richmond, Va. He was sponsored for a trial judge position by a bi-partisan group of state lawmakers.

That doesn't matter to Republican delegate Bob Marshall, because Thorne-Begland is gay.





Stay classy, Virginia.



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Most people forget that Virginia is considered 'The South'. Typical attitudes.



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Most people forget that Virginia is considered 'The South'. Typical attitudes.

Richmond was, in fact, the capital of the Confederacy. Robert E. Lee lived in what is now Arlington. The Fairfax County public schools were desegregated in the 1970s. In part because of it's proximity to 'The North,' Virginia is in many ways more Southern than states geographically lower on the map...

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rj
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Fairfax County public schools were desegregated long before the 1970s because I attended school in Annandale with black kids in the early 60s, and it was no big deal. On the other hand, there was some neighborhood buzz in 1966 when my parents showed our house for sale to a black couple. So it wasn't perfect.

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Fairfax County public schools were desegregated long before the 1970s because I attended school in Annandale with black kids in the early 60s, and it was no big deal. On the other hand, there was some neighborhood buzz in 1966 when my parents showed our house for sale to a black couple. So it wasn't perfect.

I misspoke, and I take your point. However, desegregation is a process not an act, and Fairfax County public schools were not fully desegregated until the 1970s. Not until 1960 proper did Fairfax whites-only schools admit - under direct court order - any black students, and it was only a handful. At that time, there were still 'pupil placement boards' that reviewed 'applications' of blacks to attend white schools (surprise, surprise - applications were universally denied). Fairfax County also offered publicly funded school vouchers to white families who wanted to flee schools that had been forcibly integrated. In 1965, 11 years after Brown v. Board of Education, Fairfax County finally closed its last single-race school. However, it was several more years before school districts and busing patterns were race-equitable, not shuttling white neighborhoods to one school and black neighborhoods to another...

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Same thing happened in Baltimore, Boston, Detroit and many other Northern cities.

I don't think Fairfax County is the hotbed of extreme conservatism in VA.

Historical Fairfax Desegregation Essay

August... FWIW, this "Conservative" regards that sort of thing as racism, not conservatism. Just putting it out there..

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I don't think Fairfax County is the hotbed of extreme conservatism in VA.

Historical Fairfax Desegregation Essay

Was there a claim of that somewhere in the thread? My point was that Fairfax, the most "progressive" county in VA (save Arlington, which is hardly a county, as it is just the retroceded section of D.C.), was pretty slow on the uptake with desegregation. It should also me be mentioned that Fairfax County today is a very different place than it was in the 60s and 70s, thanks to urbanization. It still has conservative quarters, but it's a much more plural and moderate place these days.

I'm also not arguing that desegregation was swift and painless elsewhere in the country. I'm just saying that it shouldn't be terribly surprising to anyone that Virginia politics look 'Southern' sometimes, given its history.

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August... FWIW, this "Conservative" regards that sort of thing as racism, not conservatism. Just putting it out there..

Conservatives of the era were not in the vanguard of desegregationism efforts, cbelt3, but progressives and liberals were. Many of the arguments used to defend race-based access to public resources were 'conservative' in their formulation, e.g.: the government should not decide social policy, local tradition and politics should trump federal mandates and judicial fiats, etc.

Would you like to pose some counterexamples for us, or explain how conservatism has fundamentally changed in the interim?

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cbelt,

I should have been more clear, I wasn't shooting for a political connotation, but for one of "resistant to change." Of course, you and your, politically speaking, conservative brethren, still remain a pack of neanderthals.

Now THAT is an excellent explanation for why many of my party have problems with folks who are of the @#$%&....




sapiens ilk.

And he was voted down 33 to 31 with 10 abstentions.
Twenty-six House members, including seven Democrats, did not vote. A minimum of 51 votes in the 100-member House was required for election.

Another win for idiocy and bigotry.

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Most people forget that Virginia is considered 'The South'. Typical attitudes.

I have lived my entire life in Virginia and this rankles me. Virginia isn't even NC much less Ga or Miss or Ala. We had the first black governor since reconstruction. We voted Obama. My city had a female mayor when I was elementary school. Which was integrated btw. And not just with students but black teachers as well. Like many states, the homophobic nature of the black population holds this issue back. Like many non-southern states, the subject of homosexuality still has a ways to go.

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Now THAT is an excellent explanation for why many of my party have problems with folks who are of the @#$%&....




sapiens ilk.

...and a rousing, cheese nibbling and wine tasting, very french, touché à l'équipage de Néanderthal.

Where was your outrage when two (white) reporters were savagely beaten by a gang of blacks in Norfolk a couple weeks ago? This story was covered up for 2 weeks until a video appeared on YouTube. Their own news paper did not report it. Where were Jesse "the race baiter" Jackson and Al Sharpton?

Just sayin'

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Where was your outrage when two (white) reporters were savagely beaten by a gang of blacks in Norfolk a couple weeks ago? This story was covered up for 2 weeks until a video appeared on YouTube. Their own news paper did not report it. Where were Jesse "the race baiter" Jackson and Al Sharpton?

Just sayin'

Because race had nothing to do with the attack. A bunch of juvenile delinquents thought it'd be fun to throw a rock at the car. The male reporter got out to confront them, then the female. Both are ok, neither sustained serious injuries, neither wanted their attack published in their own paper (Virginia Pilot), and some of the youths are in jail. Even Ken Cucccinelli the Republican state attorney general blasted O'Reilly for his grandstanding over the incident.

Pretty tough noogies when one of the top Republicans is so incensed that he calls out the rhetoric put forth by the likes of O'Reilly.

"Here is what happened. Forster and Rostami were victims of what police described as a simple assault, and, initially, they did not want to be named in a news story. If these were the circumstances with anyone in the community, we would not have done a story." (Va Pilot)



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Is is time to change the title of the thread to "The face of hate on MRF" yet?

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Where was your outrage when two (white) reporters were savagely beaten by a gang of blacks in Norfolk a couple weeks ago? This story was covered up for 2 weeks until a video appeared on YouTube. Their own news paper did not report it. Where were Jesse "the race baiter" Jackson and Al Sharpton?

Just sayin'

If you would quit gorging at the World Nut Daily nut trough, you wouldn't be getting your butt handed to you so often here.

For this appearance (and most others) Swampy will be playing the role of right wing bigoted martyr or simply that of foil.

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For this appearance (and most others) Swampy will be playing the role of right wing bigoted martyr or simply that of foil.

You only get to be a martyr if people persecute you. Nobody ever prays to St. Whatshisface, The Ignored and Forgotten.

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