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Fair is fair
Posted by: swampy
Date: June 01, 2012 09:41AM
What, there are no barbers in D.C. That can cut Obama's hair? He has to fly his personal barber in from Chicago twice a month to give him his buzz cut?

He says he pays for this and that is fine with me if that is how he wants to spend his money, but I don't want to hear any more whining from the media (or Obama's campaign minions) about Ann Romney's horse riding hobby or owning two Caddilacs if that's how she want to spend hers.





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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/01/2012 09:42AM by swampy.
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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: June 01, 2012 09:58AM
well of course Obama is in the 1%.

But He's BLACK !

So he's automatically cool.

Had to be said. I await the flame angry villagers smiley
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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: Gutenberg
Date: June 01, 2012 10:06AM
Geez, Belty, so you can't stand having a black president either? Obama is cool because he is cool and he has a lot more sense than anything the GOP has to offer.

Swamp Thing, what if he just likes the guy? If I were marooned in DC and living above the shop, on call all the time and essentially doing the job 24/7, I would want to have as many people from the old neighborhood visit as I could afford.
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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: swampy
Date: June 01, 2012 10:12AM
I'm sure the Choom Gang is always welcome, Guttie.





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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: mick e
Date: June 01, 2012 10:21AM
Another fine troll post from the forum's most dishonest member.




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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: J Marston
Date: June 01, 2012 10:25AM
If you want to use this as a way to trump Ann Romney's expenses, go ahead. See what gets the traction.

And I'm willing to allow you to suggest that the Choom Gang is relevant, as long as you'll confess that Mitt's terrorizing a gay kid is relevant.
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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: john dough
Date: June 01, 2012 11:08AM
Keep carrying those buckets of water for those who hate you, Swampy.



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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: $tevie
Date: June 01, 2012 11:27AM
It's funny that the story never broke during The Great Did He Stop Dying His Hair Scandal in 2009.
[www.nytimes.com]
[www.washingtonpost.com]

There's a ton of older articles about Zariff cached on the internet, and in some of them I noticed that they do mention he was still cutting the President's hair, although he was coy about how often and how he was getting there. I guess the LIBERAL MEDIA refused to follow up on that.

What's funny is that the NOT-LIBERAL MEDIA dropped the ball during GrayGate and never followed up with an investigation on how it was that Zariff was still Obama's barber!!!! I mean, Drudge had the gray hair story first, why did it fizzle out so fast? Enquiring Minds want to know!



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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: Chakravartin
Date: June 01, 2012 11:31AM
The original source is an anonymous contributor to German public radio.

Has anyone verified the report?
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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: mattkime
Date: June 01, 2012 11:34AM
swampy corrects another injustice



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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: Black
Date: June 01, 2012 12:02PM
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$tevie
It's funny that the story never broke during The Great Did He Stop Dying His Hair Scandal in 2009.
[www.nytimes.com]
[www.washingtonpost.com]

There's a ton of older articles about Zariff cached on the internet, and in some of them I noticed that they do mention he was still cutting the President's hair, although he was coy about how often and how he was getting there. I guess the LIBERAL MEDIA refused to follow up on that.

What's funny is that the NOT-LIBERAL MEDIA dropped the ball during GrayGate and never followed up with an investigation on how it was that Zariff was still Obama's barber!!!! I mean, Drudge had the gray hair story first, why did it fizzle out so fast? Enquiring Minds want to know!

No time to look now (and not really worth the effort, truth be told) but I'm sure I remember this arrangement being reported on when Obama took office.



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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: $tevie
Date: June 01, 2012 12:08PM
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Black
No time to look now (and not really worth the effort, truth be told) but I'm sure I remember this arrangement being reported on when Obama took office.

Since you live in that city, I imagine the odds are pretty good that you did hear/see something about it, even if it hasn't made it onto the internet.



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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: June 01, 2012 12:14PM
Gute.. uhm,. no. Actually I like the guy. The point was if he was a Republican presidential candidate, y'all would be all over this. Edwards's $400 haircut ? Obama's haircuts cost a LOT more than that.

Ok, I admit I'm white and middle aged. And Republican. For many of your party, this means I am a priori a racist homophobic misogynistic pig.

Sorry to disappoint. I'm none of those. Ask a few of my children's teenaged and adult friends, who are of all levels of melanin, various religions or lack of same, all genders, and all sexual preferences. They're all nice kids. Well, with the exception of my daughter's ex boyfriend who hit her during an argument. Fortunately she kicked his ass for me, so I simply hugged her and said "You go, Girl !".
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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: Gutenberg
Date: June 01, 2012 12:25PM
Belty, uhm, no. I did not consider you a bigot. In fact I was surprised by your comment. If you are going to complain about being painted with a broad brush, stop painting others with a broad brush.
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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: swampy
Date: June 01, 2012 12:26PM
I guess this story is just a follow up to the earlier one about Obama flying in his favorite pizza chef. The whole point being that it is all one more indication of how out of touch he is with the average American struggling in this economy. Let them eat cake?





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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: June 01, 2012 12:28PM
I'm with swampy on this one. If you complain about one candidate doing Rich Person stuff, the other candidate should receive the same treatment. If not, the media is unfair.
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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: mick e
Date: June 01, 2012 12:33PM
Because pizza is a dish reserved only for society's elite.




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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: June 01, 2012 12:37PM
No... flying your own chef in from out of town is for society's elite.
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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: $tevie
Date: June 01, 2012 12:47PM
Well, since I never gave a damn about the Romney's horses or Cadillacs, I feel free to not give a damn if the Obamas want to fly people in for pizza and haircuts. The question isn't whether these politicians are rich and elite -- you'd have to have an IQ below room temperature to think they are not. The question is whether they have the ability to visualize the fact that not all of us are. That's when you get into the things that they say rather than the things that they do. I have never mocked anyone for being wealthy, I would like to be wealthy myself, but if I ever am wealthy I'm not going to be so idiotic as to think my life is a normal one.



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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: $tevie
Date: June 01, 2012 12:49PM
I am royally fed up with the idea that because one cares about other people, one should be obligated to live like a pauper to prove it. That's total BS and in your hearts everyone must indeed know that it is BS. The difference between me giving a charitable organization a million dollars while wearing KMart clothing and me giving a charitable organization a million dollars while wearing Chanel are NIL.
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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: Black
Date: June 01, 2012 12:55PM
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cbelt3
I'm with swampy on this one. If you complain about one candidate doing Rich Person stuff, the other candidate should receive the same treatment. If not, the media is unfair.

Finding it odd that nobody has mentioned the need to be sure the person with a blade to the president's head is someone known and trusted.
I think there's an element here of not wanting to belive BHO is worthy of any special treatment beyond what the average person of the street might receive, i.e. non-acceptance that he's the rightly elected president of the U.S.
And it should be said that, in contrast to his opposer, he's got the judgment, grace, and tact to not make flippant $10,000 bets.

I think this may be what I remember (video embedded at bottom):
[morallowground.com]

I think all this amounts to-- the righties got nuthin. Keep pushing this kind of nonsense into the "debate" and we'll have a landslide reelection to beat all landslides.



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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: john dough
Date: June 01, 2012 01:14PM
Swampy is about as fair and balanced as ... as.... let me think....hmmm.

Scratch that, she is nothing but a angry troll that puts politics before country.



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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: mattkime
Date: June 01, 2012 02:15PM
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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: June 01, 2012 02:28PM
$tevie... oh, I agree in general.
Black.. good point. But who cuts everyone else's hair ? The 'security risk' issue is probably less relevant.

Again... swampy's point is not that President Obama chooses to spend his wealth in one way or another. It's that the media reports on one Presidential candidates wealthy ways, and does not perform equal reportage on the other Presidential candidates wealthy ways.

That's it. Nothing more. I have *not* seen any commentary about the implied inherent 'fairness' in that difference.
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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: $tevie
Date: June 01, 2012 02:35PM
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cbelt3
It's that the media reports on one Presidential candidates wealthy ways, and does not perform equal reportage on the other Presidential candidates wealthy ways.

That's so not true. The media made a huge, huge deal out of Michelle Obama's expensive Lanvin sneakers. The media has made good and sure that we hear about the vacations, outfits, and meals that the Obamas enjoy, don't you worry about that.



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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: mick e
Date: June 01, 2012 02:39PM
Negros needs to keep'a workin ins thems fields.




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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: decay
Date: June 01, 2012 03:48PM
I sort of agree - why can't Obama get a friggin haircut at home, with a clippers? My wife does mine.

Or at least in D.C. or Virginia.





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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: $tevie
Date: June 01, 2012 04:13PM
It's really none of our business, but it does occur to me that the owner of the barber shop may not have wanted to lose his "barber to the President" status and worked out some kind of arrangement regarding the airfare. Because it isn't the owner who cuts the hair, and in the articles preceding the inauguration the guy who does cut the hair kept saying he might move to DC. But then he didn't move. So who knows? We don't know. And we shouldn't care, frankly.



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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: Black
Date: June 01, 2012 04:23PM
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cbelt3
Again... swampy's point is not that President Obama chooses to spend his wealth in one way or another. It's that the media reports on one Presidential candidates wealthy ways, and does not perform equal reportage on the other Presidential candidates wealthy ways.

Well, considering you don't watch news, as you mentioned on a thread last night, I don't expect you'd have any way of knowing this-- but the argument you're defending is a Straw Man. The media has been all over perceived extravagence on the left.
I got blasted on this forum myself for asking why John Edwards needed a zillion square feet of living space-- feel free to dig that thread out if you're in need of a hobby.

You do realize that the swiftboaters came up with an "overspender" meme, and are now looking for faux controversies to support the meme, right?



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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: $tevie
Date: June 01, 2012 04:32PM
"The Charts That Should Accompany All Discussions of Media Bias"

[www.theatlantic.com]



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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: Acer
Date: June 01, 2012 05:41PM
The media doesn't hound rich Democrats? Has Ted Kennedy been dead that long already?
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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: Pam
Date: June 01, 2012 06:44PM
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swampy
What, there are no barbers in D.C. That can cut Obama's hair? He has to fly his personal barber in from Chicago twice a month to give him his buzz cut?

He says he pays for this and that is fine with me if that is how he wants to spend his money, but I don't want to hear any more whining from the media (or Obama's campaign minions) about Ann Romney's horse riding hobby or owning two Caddilacs if that's how she want to spend hers.

Funny, I hadn't heard about either. Fine tune your filter. Tune out the noise. Life is so much better.
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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: Grateful11
Date: June 01, 2012 07:07PM
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swampy
What, there are no barbers in D.C. That can cut Obama's hair? He has to fly his personal barber in from Chicago twice a month to give him his buzz cut?

He says he pays for this and that is fine with me if that is how he wants to spend his money, but I don't want to hear any more whining from the media (or Obama's campaign minions) about Ann Romney's horse riding hobby or owning two Caddilacs if that's how she want to spend hers.

If that's the best you can come with take this:

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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: $tevie
Date: June 01, 2012 07:18PM
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Pam
Funny, I hadn't heard about either. Fine tune your filter. Tune out the noise. Life is so much better.

This is really very good advice. Not having cable, I miss out on an awful lot of the folderol that cable news insists on using to fill up time, and I think I'm better off for it. Ignorance really can be bliss sometimes.



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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: June 02, 2012 12:50AM
If the presidents all used this, we could save enough to pay off the debt in the year 202034:

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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: RgrF
Date: June 02, 2012 01:24AM
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cbelt3
No... flying your own chef in from out of town is for society's elite.

He's the President, why can't you guys give him his due?
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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: RgrF
Date: June 02, 2012 01:25AM
Oh I forgot for a moment -- he's black.
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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: Black
Date: June 02, 2012 01:58AM
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RgrF
Oh I forgot for a moment -- he's black.

Try to keep up, Rgr--- just today cbelt stated that he's not a bigot.



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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: decay
Date: June 02, 2012 01:46PM
i imagine a barber with background clearnces could come to the White Haus for a fraction of the cost to taxpayers.

but let's be fair and examine EVERY elected official's expenses, ok?





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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: Gutenberg
Date: June 02, 2012 02:09PM
The barber is not a taxpayer's expense. Obama pays for it himself. The Obamas also pay for the purchase and preparation of their private meals. They pay for their own clothing. They do, however, live in a nice house rent-free, and for security reasons they get free transportation. But that is nothing new.
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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: Uncle Wig
Date: June 02, 2012 02:21PM
It seems to me that when you're President, you really are stuck in the White House and isolated from the outside world. Having a barber come in from Chicago would be a great way to reconnect with someone - an average American! - who could bring some fresh information and perspective about what's going on "out there."

If Truman or Eisenhower did this (and maybe they did something similar?), it would've been viewed as quaint, humanizing, and a positive comment on the President's loyalties. Now our society is so toxic and divided it just becomes another goober to spit at your opponents.

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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: June 02, 2012 07:44PM
So as our economy is still stalled because of the Republican- policy-driven recession and obstruction, we are fervently trying to rectify the all-important problems of haircuts and the proper way to address a man named "George" here on this forum.
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Re: Fair is fair
Posted by: decay
Date: June 03, 2012 04:28PM
i still say it's small potatoes compared to massive government waste.

but hey - let's focus on that & not Romney's dressage horses.





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