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| Re: Eric Holder and DoJ on Fast and Furious Posted by: Abatis
Date: June 12, 2012 10:41AM
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Pam
Issa wants to keep his name in the media. His staff and the DOJ have been making progress on a compromise.
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Dennis S
WTF is Issa doing judging people?
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Dennis S
I guess he knows first-hand about crime, being experienced in car theft, arson, and weapons charges.
| Re: Eric Holder and DoJ on Fast and Furious Posted by: Pam
Date: June 12, 2012 05:32PM
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Abatis
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Pam
Issa wants to keep his name in the media. His staff and the DOJ have been making progress on a compromise.
Well then, the contempt charge should really motivate DoJ to be up front and concilatory regarding the subpeonad documents.Quote
Dennis S
WTF is Issa doing judging people?
Issa's "judging people"??? All he's doing is his duty as a sworn representitve of the people in his assigned role of Chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Committee.
Do you have any claims of impropreity that would exclude Senator Grassley from doing his duty (happening RIGHT NOW11:40am Eastern) questioning Holder on fast and Furious as Ranking Member of the Senate Judiciary Committee?
And I should add, Senator Cornyn from Texas just recanting Holder's falsehoods was needed and calling for his resignation on the record was wonderful.Quote
Dennis S
I guess he knows first-hand about crime, being experienced in car theft, arson, and weapons charges.
Are your insinuations against Issa of more or less concern to you than having a real live tax cheat being head of the Obama Treasury Department? (remember when being a tax cheat seemed to be a prerequsite for being considered for a position in the Obama administration?)
| Re: Eric Holder and DoJ on Fast and Furious Posted by: $tevie
Date: June 12, 2012 09:03PM
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| Re: Eric Holder and DoJ on Fast and Furious Posted by: Abatis
Date: June 12, 2012 09:03PM
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Pam
What a bunch of partisan crap.
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Pam
It's grandstanding, plain and simple.
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Pam
Just more of the same us versus them.
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Pam
And Geithner? You think guys like him do their own accounting and paperwork? You've never made a mistake or omission on your own? Ultimately there was no smoke to show an intentional fire.
| Re: Eric Holder and DoJ on Fast and Furious Posted by: Pam
Date: June 12, 2012 09:12PM
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Abatis
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Pam
What a bunch of partisan crap.
Whatever. call it what you like, if it runs the chance of putting handcuffs on Holder I'm all for it.Quote
Pam
It's grandstanding, plain and simple.
You mean Schumer and Blumenthal and Feinstein??? Geez I know, how pathetic was that? That Schumer and Feinstein happen to be the most anti-gun Senators serving today (Metzenbaum and Kennedy being the worst evah) and they couldn't utter a syllable abut Fast and Furious, even to just elicit another ass-covering self-serving vacillation from Holder, is hypocrisy at its worst.Quote
Pam
Just more of the same us versus them.
You mean just more of leftists being uncomfortable being pressed to answer questions on their unconstitutional actions and violations of their oaths of office?Quote
Pam
And Geithner? You think guys like him do their own accounting and paperwork? You've never made a mistake or omission on your own? Ultimately there was no smoke to show an intentional fire.
He signed the return.
TaxcheatTimmy, back when he was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under Clinton, fully explained the complexities of the tax liabilities of US employees of the IMF back in 1998:
- "Most countries in the world impose tax on the worldwide income of individuals on a residence, rather than citizenship, basis. Thus, non-U.S. nationals employed by the Fund outside of their home countries generally do not pay home country income tax on their Fund incomes. However, the United States taxes its citizens regardless of where they are resident; U.S. staff of the Fund are taxed by the United States on their Fund income regardless of where they are located. Arrangements have been made to reimburse employees for income taxes paid to their home countries to put them on an equal footing with staff who do not have to pay home country tax. Of IMF tax reimbursements, 99.5% go to U.S. staff. These reimbursements represent a transfer from the IMF to the U.S. Treasury. In the absence of tax reimbursement, the actual after-tax Fund income of U.S. staff would fall well below both the pay of other IMF staff (that is not taxed) and the after-tax pay of employees in the U.S. public and private sectors. In such circumstances, it would be very difficult, if not impossible, for the Fund to recruit or retain well qualified U.S. staff."
So, what are the possibilites here?
- Geithner did not understand the testimony he was delivering to Congress, and thus was innocent but ignorant.
- Geithner understood it at the time, but suffered severe but temporary memory problems when he joined the IMF a few years later.
- Geithner knew exactly what he was doing when he cheated on his taxes, and lied about it.
| Re: Eric Holder and DoJ on Fast and Furious Posted by: $tevie
Date: June 12, 2012 09:16PM
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Pam
This digging for anything that could possibly discredit the current administration is not only tiresome, but talk about bad for the country. Instead of discussing and learning about the real strategies for boosting the economy we get all of this partisan crap to simply sway your vote. Ignorantly people like you fall for it.

| Re: Eric Holder and DoJ on Fast and Furious Posted by: john dough
Date: June 13, 2012 07:48AM
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| Re: Eric Holder and DoJ on Fast and Furious Posted by: RgrF
Date: June 13, 2012 06:18PM
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| Re: Eric Holder and DoJ on Fast and Furious Posted by: Abatis
Date: June 13, 2012 10:28PM
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| Re: Eric Holder and DoJ on Fast and Furious Posted by: RgrF
Date: June 13, 2012 10:56PM
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| Re: Eric Holder and DoJ on Fast and Furious Posted by: $tevie
Date: June 14, 2012 12:00AM
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If this is just a right-wing witch hunt why has the DoJ OIG report taken longer to complete than the Warren Report or the Nurenberg Trials?
| Re: Eric Holder and DoJ on Fast and Furious Posted by: Abatis
Date: June 14, 2012 05:43AM
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RgrF
Unless you personally monitor the big three networks, you are simply passing on disinformation from the right wing noise machine.
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RgrF
PS: This operation was indeed a disaster. Posters here seem more interested in hanging it on someone (preferably from the current administration) than looking into it to see how it developed and went so wrong.
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$tevie
It would be a lot easier to take you seriously if you wouldn't recycle stale Sean Hannity talking points from six months ago.
| Re: Eric Holder and DoJ on Fast and Furious Posted by: $tevie
Date: June 14, 2012 09:38AM
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| Re: Eric Holder and DoJ on Fast and Furious Posted by: $tevie
Date: June 14, 2012 09:41AM
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Abatis
I actually watch the MSNBC talking heads; Hannity and Beck and Rush really don't have much to offer to me. I don't need to have my opinions shaped or validated; I much prefer them challenged. . . .
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Abatis
I just picture you sitting in front of your monitor with your fingers in your ears repeating
| Re: Eric Holder and DoJ on Fast and Furious Posted by: swampy
Date: June 14, 2012 11:33AM
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| Re: Eric Holder and DoJ on Fast and Furious Posted by: RgrF
Date: June 14, 2012 01:07PM
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| Re: Eric Holder and DoJ on Fast and Furious Posted by: $tevie
Date: June 14, 2012 01:08PM
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