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| Re: Mitt of 1999 Owned Stock In Fetus Disposal Company Date: July 02, 2012 04:39PM |
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He was probably focused more on the millions upon millions of dollars the investment would net him, and not how awkward it would make life for New Mitt. But Old Mitt had a way of being selfish like that.
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| Re: Mitt of 1999 Owned Stock In Fetus Disposal Company Date: July 02, 2012 10:28PM |
But did they get harvested for Stem Cells? 
| Re: Mitt of 1999 Owned Stock In Fetus Disposal Company Date: July 03, 2012 10:58AM |
I'd say Obama had a bigger hand in _creating_ any fetus that needed to be disposed of. There has neve been a doubt about his favorable stand on abortion and you can't deny that he has profited from it.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
| Re: Mitt of 1999 Owned Stock In Fetus Disposal Company Date: July 03, 2012 01:15PM |
The article was quick to condem Romney for owning stock in a medical waste disposal company that included services to dispose of fetal remains. Dirty job, somebody's got to do it. But I find it ironic that the author of this article only finds disposal of fetal matter objectionable because Romney was somehow involved. In all fairness, I'm just saying that Obama has spent a career making that fetal matter available for disposal by Romney's company or anyone other.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/03/2012 01:16PM by swampy.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/03/2012 01:16PM by swampy.
| Re: Mitt of 1999 Owned Stock In Fetus Disposal Company Date: July 03, 2012 04:15PM |
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hal
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But this is nonsense. Being pro choice doesn't mean that you support abortion for all people at all times. It's being of the opinion that the choice of abortion belongs to the woman. Again, most people I know these days are pro-choice and personally against abortion (as THEIR choice).
So what about the babies that survived late term abortion only to die later as a result of non care? Go look up Obama's track record on this when he was in the Illinois legislature. Or google "post birth abortion".
“…WHAT WE CALL ‘AFTER-BIRTH ABORTION’ (KILLING A NEWBORN) SHOULD BE PERMISSIBLE IN ALL THE CASES WHERE ABORTION IS, INCLUDING CASES WHERE THE NEWBORN IS NOT DISABLED”.
THEN THE TIE IN WITH THE QUEEN OF DEATH, KATHLEEN SEBELIUS:
“To bring up such children might be an unbearable burden on the family and on society as a whole, when the state economically provides for their care.”
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So now we have the “ethical” argument for reducing Healthcare costs by killing BABIES WHO HAVE BEEN BORN! How long do you think it will be before Seniors are considered as an Unbearable Burden. How about the handicapped? How about those with long-term illnesses like MS, ALS, Diabetes, and on and on. If the decision is made by Progressives like Obama and the Queen of Death, there is no limit.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
| Re: Mitt of 1999 Owned Stock In Fetus Disposal Company Date: July 03, 2012 07:28PM |
While serving in the Illinois Senate....
He voted against requiring medical care for aborted fetuses who survive. He supported allowing retired police officers to carry concealed weapons, but opposed allowing people to use banned handguns to defend against intruders in their homes. And the list of sensitive topics goes on.
[www.cbsnews.com]
Yeah, voting against allowing surviving babies to have medical care is seriously crazy. And I hope you don't try to refute CBSs reportage. There were many articles about this written by others during Obama's 2008 primary run, but they were conveniently overlooked by the mainstream media.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
He voted against requiring medical care for aborted fetuses who survive. He supported allowing retired police officers to carry concealed weapons, but opposed allowing people to use banned handguns to defend against intruders in their homes. And the list of sensitive topics goes on.
[www.cbsnews.com]
Yeah, voting against allowing surviving babies to have medical care is seriously crazy. And I hope you don't try to refute CBSs reportage. There were many articles about this written by others during Obama's 2008 primary run, but they were conveniently overlooked by the mainstream media.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
| Re: Mitt of 1999 Owned Stock In Fetus Disposal Company Date: July 03, 2012 07:53PM |
Hal... You may also want to read the full transcript of an interview with a nurse who fought Obama on this issue..
(CNSNews.com) - In 1999, Jill Stanek, a labor and delivery nurse at Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Ill., held a premature baby in her arms for forty-five minutes as the child struggled for life and then died.
The little boy, who had Down Syndrome, had survived an induced-labor abortion and was going to be left alone in a soiled utility room until he expired without any medical treatment or comforting. Stanek could not bear the thought of that, and the experience of holding the baby as he fought to breathe converted her into a pro-life activist.
Thanks to Stanek, the U.S. Congress enacted the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, which was signed into law by President George W. Bush in 2002.
In Illinois, however, a state version of the law was thwarted for three years, in part because of the resolute opposition of then-Illinois-state Sen. Barack Obama.
[cnsnews.com]
This month, Stanek received on of the first annual Life Prizes, awarded by the Gerard Health Foundation to Americans who have shown courage in defending the sanctity of human life.
In an interview with CNSNews.com Editor in Chief Terry Jeffrey, Stanek described her efforts to win legislation that would protect babies who survive abortions and Barack Obama’s efforts to stop that legislation.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
(CNSNews.com) - In 1999, Jill Stanek, a labor and delivery nurse at Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Ill., held a premature baby in her arms for forty-five minutes as the child struggled for life and then died.
The little boy, who had Down Syndrome, had survived an induced-labor abortion and was going to be left alone in a soiled utility room until he expired without any medical treatment or comforting. Stanek could not bear the thought of that, and the experience of holding the baby as he fought to breathe converted her into a pro-life activist.
Thanks to Stanek, the U.S. Congress enacted the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, which was signed into law by President George W. Bush in 2002.
In Illinois, however, a state version of the law was thwarted for three years, in part because of the resolute opposition of then-Illinois-state Sen. Barack Obama.
[cnsnews.com]
This month, Stanek received on of the first annual Life Prizes, awarded by the Gerard Health Foundation to Americans who have shown courage in defending the sanctity of human life.
In an interview with CNSNews.com Editor in Chief Terry Jeffrey, Stanek described her efforts to win legislation that would protect babies who survive abortions and Barack Obama’s efforts to stop that legislation.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
| Re: Mitt of 1999 Owned Stock In Fetus Disposal Company Date: July 03, 2012 08:00PM |
Sorry - not reading anything from a webpage that starts with that image above....
From the other article:
One vote that especially riled abortion opponents involved restrictions on a type of abortion where the fetus sometimes survives, occasionally for hours. The restrictions, which never became law, included requiring the presence of a second doctor to care for the fetus.
He voted against a dumb law - and so did everyone else I guess - it didn't pass. The discussion here is about an aborted fetus - a fetus - it isn't going to live long WITH medical help. Insisting that a second DR be standing by just in case of this rare event and try to keep a goldfish sized fetus alive is asinine. This is just another attempt to make the practice of a legal procedure impossibly bound by in red tape.
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swampy
While serving in the Illinois Senate....
He voted against requiring medical care for aborted fetuses who survive. He supported allowing retired police officers to carry concealed weapons, but opposed allowing people to use banned handguns to defend against intruders in their homes. And the list of sensitive topics goes on.
[www.cbsnews.com]
Yeah, voting against allowing surviving babies to have medical care is seriously crazy. And I hope you don't try to refute CBSs reportage. There were many articles about this written by others during Obama's 2008 primary run, but they were conveniently overlooked by the mainstream media.
edit: and I LOVE that masthead - the right news, right now (TM)
cute
edit 2: DAMN, these guys don't even try to be 'fair and balanced' they come right out and say it:
About Us
CNSNews.com was launched on June 16, 1998 as a news source for individuals, news organizations and broadcasters who put a higher premium on balance than spin and seek news that’s ignored or under-reported as a result of media bias by omission.
Study after study by the Media Research Center, the parent organization of CNSNews.com, clearly demonstrate a liberal bias in many news outlets – bias by commission and bias by omission – that results in a frequent double-standard in editorial decisions on what constitutes "news."
In response to these shortcomings, MRC Chairman L. Brent Bozell III founded CNSNews.com in an effort to provide an alternative news source that would cover stories that are subject to the bias of omission and report on other news subject to bias by commission.
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| Re: Mitt of 1999 Owned Stock In Fetus Disposal Company Date: July 03, 2012 08:02PM |
Pam, if the sole purpose of the medical waste disposal company was to dispose of fetal matter then your argument makes sense. What doesn't make sense is to use that as an argument against Romney when Obama spent three years in the Illinois Senate actively opposing medical care for babies in critical condition having survived an abortion. it's called infanticide!
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
| Re: Mitt of 1999 Owned Stock In Fetus Disposal Company Date: July 03, 2012 08:11PM |
Okay, Hal...just put the baby in a broom closet and let him die and keep telling yourself that Obama cares for everyone.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
| Re: Mitt of 1999 Owned Stock In Fetus Disposal Company Date: July 03, 2012 11:11PM |
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Black
They are the same thing here in the universe within this thread.
Can't you suspend reality for a little while?
Ever since I came to this country Black.
| Re: Mitt of 1999 Owned Stock In Fetus Disposal Company Date: July 04, 2012 09:14AM |
Pam, how do you get that it would be the parent's decision when state legislature declares if they will or they won't live?
A child is born, the cord is cut, and it is surviving and you are going to deny it care? Come on. Modern medicine can do wonders these days and you would deny medical care because it survives abortion? What next? Deny a baby care because it has spina bifita, downs syndrome, or a clef pallet?
Hal... I'm surprised that you wouldn't read the link to the Stanek interview transcript. She testified before congress, so perhaps you'd take the time to look it up, but no, you don't want to hear her story. I guess it is hard to accept that Obama favors killing babies, but in a nut shell, that's what it boils down to. This is not about abortion rights and women's choices. In this case the abortion has already been performed. This is about condeming a child to death simply because it _survived_ the abortion. Ooooops, the baby lived!
Then Obama brings in K Sebelius who would deny the baby care based on cost effectiveness. You call yourselves progressives so do you progress to euthanasia, eugenics, death panels? This is what conservatives envision when the President of the United States has gone on record (3 times) opposing post abortion care.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
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A child is born, the cord is cut, and it is surviving and you are going to deny it care? Come on. Modern medicine can do wonders these days and you would deny medical care because it survives abortion? What next? Deny a baby care because it has spina bifita, downs syndrome, or a clef pallet?
Hal... I'm surprised that you wouldn't read the link to the Stanek interview transcript. She testified before congress, so perhaps you'd take the time to look it up, but no, you don't want to hear her story. I guess it is hard to accept that Obama favors killing babies, but in a nut shell, that's what it boils down to. This is not about abortion rights and women's choices. In this case the abortion has already been performed. This is about condeming a child to death simply because it _survived_ the abortion. Ooooops, the baby lived!
Then Obama brings in K Sebelius who would deny the baby care based on cost effectiveness. You call yourselves progressives so do you progress to euthanasia, eugenics, death panels? This is what conservatives envision when the President of the United States has gone on record (3 times) opposing post abortion care.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/04/2012 09:24AM by swampy.
| Re: Mitt of 1999 Owned Stock In Fetus Disposal Company Date: July 04, 2012 11:44AM |
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Avenger
Obama would personally sign stimulus money for this outfit. Don't cry for me.
ergo, Obama = Romney.
Q.E.D.!
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| Re: Mitt of 1999 Owned Stock In Fetus Disposal Company Date: July 04, 2012 12:59PM |
Now is time on Sprockets when we dance!
| Re: Mitt of 1999 Owned Stock In Fetus Disposal Company Date: July 04, 2012 01:32PM |
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Pam
They weren't denying care swampy. You have it all wrong! They were preventing forced care! If an abortion was unsuccessful the parents could decide not to give what may or may not be lifesaving care or decide to give care. As far as Stanek goes she's a fervent anti abortionist who takes great latitude with facts so she can confuse people like you. You seriously need to stop listening to and reading political entertainers. They do not care about you or facts. Their motivation is money and the sense of power.
Euthanasia? Damn right I'm for it. We treat our animals better than people. It's long past time to rectify that.
Eugenics? Sorry. Republicans have that ball.
Death panels? Never existed. Never were part of the plan. You were suckered to get you to vote a certain way. Played like a fiddle.
Oh, sorry, I didn't know you knew Stanek or her motivations. I thought she said she was a delivery room nurse not an entertainer. I thought she also said that she favored choice until her experience. Forced care? Is it forced care to rock and hold a baby in your arms until it dies? The powers that be wouldn't even allow that and she hid from them so they wouldn't know. Geeez, Pam, don't try to tell me you are a compassionate liberal!
At least euthanasia, when done properly, provides for some comfort for the dying.
Eugenics? I think the progressives like Margaret Sanger were all over that back in the 1920s.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
| Re: Mitt of 1999 Owned Stock In Fetus Disposal Company Date: July 04, 2012 07:06PM |
, I am weary of the occasional cruel and unusual event being used as some kind of example of how everyone in this country is behaving....$tevie
If Obama had had his way this "occasional and cruel event" it would have become the norm in Illinois.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
If Obama had had his way this "occasional and cruel event" it would have become the norm in Illinois.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
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