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| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: Avenger
Date: July 15, 2012 10:55AM
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| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: $tevie
Date: July 15, 2012 11:10AM
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I am talking about SSI
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Actually, in Obama's economy it is impossible not to have income. If you don't you are really incompetent. $450 a week can be gotten by a few mouse clicks. It was demonstrated in front of me accompanied by a you-idiots expression.Quote
Avenger
The guy said he will refuse to get a job until his $450 weekly unemployment checks run out. He was on it a year already. For someone who lives with his parents, this is plenty enough.
"Stop thinking about art works as objects, and start thinking about them as triggers for experiences." ~ Brian Eno
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/15/2012 11:15AM by $tevie.
| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: $tevie
Date: July 15, 2012 11:12AM
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As for the federal involvement, you are now talking about emergency funding, which a person cannot collect unless they had qualified for unemployment in the first place, and which does not kick in unless a person has been drawing the original UI and the time has run out.Quote
The federal-state unemployment insurance system helps people who have lost their jobs and are eligible for benefits by temporarily replacing part of their lost wages. Created in 1935, UI is a form of social insurance in which employers pay taxes (which economists believe are financed by reductions in their employees' compensation) into the UI system and states use those funds to provide income support to workers and their families if they lose their jobs.
To qualify for UI benefits, a person must have lost a job through no fault of his or her own and be ready, willing, and able to take a "suitable" new job. Unemployment insurance does not cover people who leave a job voluntarily, people looking for their first job, or re-entrants who previously left the labor force voluntarily.
In the current downturn, workers in any state who exhaust their regular UI benefits before they can find a job can receive up to 34 additional weeks of benefits through the temporary federal Emergency Unemployment Compensation (EUC) program enacted in 2008. That number rises to 53 weeks in states with especially high unemployment rates. Workers who exhaust their regular UI and EUC benefits can receive up to 20 additional weeks of benefits through the permanent federal-state Extended Benefits (EB) program if their state's unemployment insurance laws allow it.
Congress has created a program to provide additional weeks of UI benefits in every major recession since the 1950s.
[www.cbpp.org]
"Stop thinking about art works as objects, and start thinking about them as triggers for experiences." ~ Brian Eno
| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: hal
Date: July 15, 2012 12:48PM
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| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: $tevie
Date: July 15, 2012 01:17PM
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| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: hal
Date: July 15, 2012 02:07PM
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| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: $tevie
Date: July 15, 2012 02:32PM
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| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: Avenger
Date: July 15, 2012 02:35PM
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| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: August West
Date: July 15, 2012 02:43PM
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| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: Dennis S
Date: July 15, 2012 03:28PM
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| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: Pam
Date: July 15, 2012 03:37PM
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Avenger
Trying to change the subject from grannies off the plane landing lucrative retirement to unemployment doesn't work. Since you don't care where your money goes, just pay up suckers and smile.
You obviously have no problem doing that as you constantly point fingers at minor expenditures relative to where, and in whose pockets, the big money really goes. You are being played like a puppet. And those deep pockets thank you. Oh, and they really don't give a piss about you personally.
| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: $tevie
Date: July 15, 2012 04:31PM
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Dakota was originally talking about unemployment. HE changed the topic to
SSI when he realized his lie was screwed up.
Everyone can SEE that, Dakota, it is right in plain view. You look like an idiot.
"Stop thinking about art works as objects, and start thinking about them as triggers for experiences." ~ Brian Eno
SSI when he realized his lie was screwed up.
Everyone can SEE that, Dakota, it is right in plain view. You look like an idiot.
"Stop thinking about art works as objects, and start thinking about them as triggers for experiences." ~ Brian Eno
| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: $tevie
Date: July 15, 2012 04:45PM
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Not to mention, our country has made it pretty clear they don't want to let Dakota's friends and family in here, so we don't need to worry about them collecting any benefits.
"Stop thinking about art works as objects, and start thinking about them as triggers for experiences." ~ Brian Eno
"Stop thinking about art works as objects, and start thinking about them as triggers for experiences." ~ Brian Eno
| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: Avenger
Date: July 15, 2012 05:04PM
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| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: August West
Date: July 15, 2012 05:16PM
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Not to mention, our country has made it pretty clear they don't want to let Dakota's friends and family in here...
I imagine they breathed a tremendous sigh of relief and gathered to create stories about the horrors of American immigration and the many "refusals" that continue to "prevent" them from swiftly rejoining Dakota.
| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: Dennis S
Date: July 15, 2012 05:40PM
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| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: Avenger
Date: July 15, 2012 07:31PM
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I had heard a few concerned voices about their checks being stopped because CA is in such dire shape. I told them of this exchange and assured them that the Americans I talked to on the internet had no qualms about them getting public assistance while proclaiming "poverty". I even said they can send the public assistance dollars back home for purchasing of a second car or anything else. They had one question though. Do they really have to live here to get paid? It is not that they will never return. They would come back for free healthcare if the need arises. It is only a flight away and those dollars could pay for the ticket.
| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: Pam
Date: July 15, 2012 08:22PM
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I had heard a few concerned voices about their checks being stopped because CA is in such dire shape. I told them of this exchange and assured them that the Americans I talked to on the internet had no qualms about them getting public assistance while proclaiming "poverty". I even said they can send the public assistance dollars back home for purchasing of a second car or anything else. They had one question though. Do they really have to live here to get paid? It is not that they will never return. They would come back for free healthcare if the need arises. It is only a flight away and those dollars could pay for the ticket.
So let me get this straight; you still don't understand that applying doesn't mean you get money, get upset over fraud, but because we point out that applications are only the start you are encouraging fraud? That you are aware of fraud but do not report it? Nice going.
| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: $tevie
Date: July 15, 2012 08:26PM
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| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: Avenger
Date: July 15, 2012 09:10PM
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I the immigrant don't know but you sitting in Baltimore discussing baseball know? I live with them. I can name at least six grannies in our circle of friends and families who have this perk and it is virtually impossible to get turned down. They are elderly and "poor" . Once they are in, they are in because they sure aren't gonna get any younger. The fraud is not in what they do. They are getting what the law is giving them. The fraud is in the law itself. It boggles the mind that someone with zero contribution to the trust fund can fly in and get up to a $1000 month over night with a true free healthcare. They had Medicare Part D before there was a Part D. Now suckers like you and I are sitting around debating whether the retirement age should be 62 or 65.
| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: Dennis S
Date: July 15, 2012 09:30PM
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| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: RgrF
Date: July 15, 2012 10:45PM
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| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: Avenger
Date: July 16, 2012 08:49AM
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| Re: Another executive order... Posted by: August West
Date: July 16, 2012 09:30AM
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