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Virginia considers privatizing its sex offender program
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 16, 2012 11:32AM
This is a "civil commitment center" for mentally ill sex offenders who have already served their sentences, but are considered too dangerous to release. They can be held indefinitely.
What is the incentive of a for-profit company to ever recommend their release? They'd be sending away a paying customer!
Or give them treatment that would facilitate said release?

A horrible idea. Wrong morally, wrong ethically, wrong financially.

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Re: Virginia considers privatizing its sex offender program
Posted by: decay
Date: July 16, 2012 11:39AM
castration.
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Re: Virginia considers privatizing its sex offender program
Posted by: billb
Date: July 16, 2012 11:44AM
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decay
castration.


you'd likely have to remove a few more body parts than that
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Re: Virginia considers privatizing its sex offender program
Posted by: Pops
Date: July 16, 2012 12:29PM
Who currently determines that they are too dangerous for release and on what criteria is that measured?
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Re: Virginia considers privatizing its sex offender program
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 16, 2012 12:45PM
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Pops
Who currently determines that they are too dangerous for release and on what criteria is that measured?

Public employees who are accountable to the public. IOW, there is no financial incentive to keep people committed indefinitely under the public system. The criteria for release are based on public safety, not on profit potential.
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Re: Virginia considers privatizing its sex offender program
Posted by: Avenger
Date: July 16, 2012 02:30PM
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Lemon Drop
IOW, there is no financial incentive to keep people committed indefinitely under the public system. The criteria for release are based on public safety, not on profit potential.

The incentive to release is not getting paid by the state. So don't worry much about them being locked up for longer than they deserve.
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Re: Virginia considers privatizing its sex offender program
Posted by: Black
Date: July 16, 2012 04:20PM
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decay
castration.
IIRC research has shown that it doesn't make a difference.



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Re: Virginia considers privatizing its sex offender program
Posted by: RgrF
Date: July 16, 2012 11:40PM
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Avenger
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Lemon Drop
IOW, there is no financial incentive to keep people committed indefinitely under the public system. The criteria for release are based on public safety, not on profit potential.

The incentive to release is not getting paid by the state. So don't worry much about them being locked up for longer than they deserve.

That worked so well with privatizing prisons, didn't it? Dumbo here clearly has no concept of the tail wagging the dog, more likely he doesn't care. Maybe he'd be even more supportive if he could see a clear path to getting his incoming relatives on that gravy train.
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Re: Virginia considers privatizing its sex offender program
Posted by: Avenger
Date: July 17, 2012 09:15AM
If private prisons can hold inmates without getting paid, I suggest you are onto a brilliant business strategy. Why don't you open a hotel chain and don't charge the guests?
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Re: Virginia considers privatizing its sex offender program
Posted by: Pam
Date: July 17, 2012 04:21PM
This is flying under the radar. You can't find news reports in this state or many state reps that are even aware of the proceedings.

It always cracks me up when Republicans privatize governmental responsibilities. If a company can do it better and make a profit, why can't the state improve and save the profit? Oh yeah, it's all about free enterprise aka using tax dollars to line pockets.
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Re: Virginia considers privatizing its sex offender program
Posted by: Avenger
Date: July 17, 2012 10:24PM
>>why can't the state improve and save the profit? <<

Because they can't.
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Re: Virginia considers privatizing its sex offender program
Posted by: Pam
Date: July 18, 2012 07:32AM
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Avenger
>>why can't the state improve and save the profit? <<

Because they can't.

And you know this because...?
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Re: Virginia considers privatizing its sex offender program
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 18, 2012 10:05AM
I would hope that the goal of this detention center doesn't center around who can do it the cheapest. It's supposed to be about public safety and rehabilitation. And the companies vying for this contract don't inspire confidence.
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Re: Virginia considers privatizing its sex offender program
Posted by: Pam
Date: July 18, 2012 10:36AM
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Lemon Drop
I would hope that the goal of this detention center doesn't center around who can do it the cheapest. It's supposed to be about public safety and rehabilitation. And the companies vying for this contract don't inspire confidence.

No they don't. The state has the advantage of not doing this for profit so cheapest is relative. A company with multiple centers across several states might have a cost advantage. But like you said, that Florida company is pretty darn shaky.
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