This side needs a topic about the Colorado shootings and all the silly conspiracy theories that come along with that.

Go for it.

OK, all those people with agendas bottled up for years can now unleash. Here is a list you can pick from,

- large magazines ban
- one gun a month
- gun show loophole
- large caliber ban
- "automatic" weapon ban
- check his AM radio presets
- tea party membership

Hopefully the shooter was a Mexican drug lord so we can blame Obama and move on.

Here's one:

Did Rush bLimpbugh give this kookbiscuit his target?

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They'll know after they check their AM radio. He might even have Swiss bank accounts and outsourced a few jobs.

Move along, nothing to see here, it was just another far right gun nut doing the inevitable.

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How much do you think a 38 Special would fetch in that movie theatre?

"If we allowed patrons to carry loaded handguns into movie theaters, schools, churches, etc. this would never have happened."

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How much do you think a 38 Special would fetch in that movie theatre?

What a callous, strident and idiotic statement.

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A crazed gunman enters a darkened theatre and opens fire. Even if a "citizen" in the theater were packing, how many people would have died before said citizen could identify and disable the gunman amid that chaos?

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How much do you think a 38 Special would fetch in that movie theatre?

Exactly what does that mean?

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A crazed gunman enters a darkened theatre and opens fire. Even if a "citizen" in the theater were packing, how many people would have died before said citizen could identify and disable the gunman amid that chaos?

Wouldn't YOU like to have been that "citizen", for your own sake, if nobody else?

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How much do you think a 38 Special would fetch in that movie theatre?

Exactly what does that mean?

That's for you to figure out.

You are a blathering idiot. This forum was much better without your incessant trolling.

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A crazed gunman enters a darkened theatre and opens fire. Even if a "citizen" in the theater were packing, how many people would have died before said citizen could identify and disable the gunman amid that chaos?

Wouldn't YOU like to have been that "citizen", for your own sake, if nobody else?

No, because said citizen would most likely shoot innocent people in the chaos rather than hit the gun nut using his weapons as designed by the manufacturer.

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How much do you think a 38 Special would fetch in that movie theatre?

What a callous, strident and idiotic statement.

You're not really surprised, are you?!? Good thing those in charge of the forum decided to bring the trash back inside after it had been put out on the curb awaiting pickup. It's a much better place here again... Pffft.

Seriously Dakota.

mick e made a ridiculous statement as it pertained to the sadistic gunman - YOU made sick and morbid statements addressed to the victims of this hideous massacre.

It is beyond the pale, and you should issue an apology for forum trolling on the backs of the dead and wounded.

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"If we allowed patrons to carry loaded handguns into movie theaters, schools, churches, etc. this would never have happened."

Then there might be a shooting because:
- someone's cell goes off.
- someone's whisper was audible.
- someone drooled at someone else's girlfriend.
- someone did not like someone else's politics.
- someone passed gas loudly.
and the list goes on.

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It is beyond the pale, and you should issue an apology for forum trolling on the backs of the dead and wounded.

What is beyond the pale and what is the apology for?

One of my thoughts when reading about this is that it's =really= unlikely that no-one else would have been packing in a basically full movie theater showing a film of interest to a younger adult crowd (i.e. not a Woody Allen film or animation.)

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mick e would suggest to forum moderators that the poster known as "Avenger" be re-banned.

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Seriously Dakota.

mick e made a ridiculous statement as it pertained to the sadistic gunman - YOU made sick and morbid statements addressed to the victims of this hideous massacre.

It is beyond the pale, and you should issue an apology for forum trolling on the backs of the dead and wounded.

Why do we have to make it so easy for the troll to steer every discussion?

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No, because said citizen would most likely shoot innocent people in the chaos rather than hit the gun nut using his weapons as designed by the manufacturer.

I agree. You can always throw at him your bag of skittles. Much safer.

Pentagon saying that among the casualties are members of the military (not sure if dead or injured or both.)

And the shooter had more violent plans beyond the theater. His apartment building was wired with sophisticated explosive devices.

In any event, another messed up coward with fire power takes away innocent lives.

About how he got in - one witness says they saw a guy in the front row take a cell call and go to the emergency door and prop it open. Could have been the shooter, or an accomplice.

Why? Why does this keep happening?

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Seriously Dakota.

mick e made a ridiculous statement as it pertained to the sadistic gunman - YOU made sick and morbid statements addressed to the victims of this hideous massacre.

It is beyond the pale, and you should issue an apology for forum trolling on the backs of the dead and wounded.

Why do we have to make it so easy for the troll to steer every discussion?

Well, this is a discussion. Jump in or start your own. What do you have?

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Why? Why does this keep happening?

There is sickness out there. Ask yourself this. Can anybody stop you if you really wanted to do something evil today?

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Why? Why does this keep happening?

There is sickness out there. Ask yourself this. Can anybody stop you if you really wanted to do something evil today?

There is sickness in here and it's you.
Please die quickly. Oh, did I say that out loud?

"Move along, nothing to see here, it was just another far right gun nut doing the inevitable."

i blame Hollywood's culture of violence.

and Americans' willingness to agree that violence is OK for kids to see, but sex is not.

recruiting ads for war help, too.

YAY KILLING!

Ugh. Really. Settle down people.

Nobody here is a proponent of violence, just different types of responses to the violence that surrounds us.

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... About how he got in - one witness says they saw a guy in the front row take a cell call and go to the emergency door and prop it open. ...

I hope that this doesn't become lost. I want it either exposed as hoax or investigated. Either way, I'm not a "believer" that theater doors can be opened from the outside unless known-defective.

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mick e would suggest to forum moderators that the poster known as "Avenger" be re-banned.

I second that.

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... Can anybody stop you if you really wanted to do something evil today?

Nope, but that's not the point of wanting a few key freedoms reconsidered. It's about increasing our odds of survival, not seeking a fantasy guarantee.

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There is sickness out there.

I said on the Other Other Side, "I don't know there's much to understand about 'crazy.'" Let me elaborate here, in the context of your apparent assertion it's pointless to try: Trying to understand is not without merit.

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mick e would suggest to forum moderators that the poster known as "Avenger" be re-banned.

I second that.

There is still one Amendment that comes before the Second.

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Jeez. Shooter is (was) a PhD candidate in neuroscience at Univ Of Colorado.

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How much do you think a 38 Special would fetch in that movie theatre?

Exactly what does that mean?

That's for you to figure out.

No, you posted it, you're so frickin' smart you tell me.

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I said on the Other Other Side, "I don't know there's much to understand about 'crazy.'" Let me elaborate here, in the context of your apparent assertion it's pointless to try: Trying to understand is not without merit.

Mental illness and social maladjustment will always be with us. So will violence. But what "crazy" is able to accomplish seems to vary widely depending on where you live.

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Please die quickly. Oh, did I say that out loud?

Not the best choice of words, especially today. I am afraid I was here first.

ABC news has already tried to blame this on the Tea Party saying James Holmes(sp) was a member. They are already having to walk that back, bit not before they aired their "find" nationally. ABC looked at the Tea Party membership list In the Aurora area and found a man with the same name as the shooter and drew the wrong conclusion.. ABCs guy was in his 50s.

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that's ridiculous! I don't know if you can sue a media outlet for naming you in connection with a mass murder without any evidence that you're connected, but if so, I hope that gentleman does.

I don't see an unsecured emergency door as evidence of conspiracy. It's just a movie theatre, where the emergency doors are locked to keep out teenagers with no tickets. It's not Heathrow.

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that's ridiculous! I don't know if you can sue a media outlet for naming you in connection with a mass murder without any evidence that you're connected, but if so, I hope that gentleman does.

I'm ignoring who you quoted, but please remember (and everyone else) that in the early stages of a crisis information can often be wrong or misleading. All news outlets are dropping whatever bits and pieces they find whether they are relevant or not.

People in our buildings will prop open emergency doors when they go out to smoke. If the door isn't equipped with an alarm nobody is the wiser.

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that's ridiculous! I don't know if you can sue a media outlet for naming you in connection with a mass murder without any evidence that you're connected, but if so, I hope that gentleman does.

I'm ignoring who you quoted, but please remember (and everyone else) that in the early stages of a crisis information can often be wrong or misleading. All news outlets are dropping whatever bits and pieces they find whether they are relevant or not.

There's no excuse for what ABC did. It's not that they got wrong information from a normally reliable source, like the police, they went looking for people online and just put people out there, with absolutely no vetting. This is not a "fog of war" mistake. It's highly unprofessional, outrageous and inexcusable.

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mick e would suggest to forum moderators that the poster known as "Avenger" be re-banned.

I second that.

There is still one Amendment that comes before the Second.

You can't invoke the First Amendment here, Speedy, because we are standing on private property. The owner of that property can abridge free speech all he wants.

I'm not crazy about the idea of re-banning him because he hasn't attacked anyone, but I wish people would stop responding to his idiotic statements. There's no sense in encouraging him.

This guy hit 71 people (police press conf happening now) with bullets.

These are the same outlets who repeatedly edit phone logs to their likings then after everything is forgotten "apologize". THere are a zillion James Holmes in the country. Ross must have searched holmes+tea party.



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Ironically, the former president of ABC News was just on Morning Edition yesterday and questioned the value of networks' efforts to be "first" with the news.
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that's ridiculous! I don't know if you can sue a media outlet for naming you in connection with a mass murder without any evidence that you're connected, but if so, I hope that gentleman does.

I'm ignoring who you quoted, but please remember (and everyone else) that in the early stages of a crisis information can often be wrong or misleading. All news outlets are dropping whatever bits and pieces they find whether they are relevant or not.

There's no excuse for what ABC did. It's not that they got wrong information from a normally reliable source, like the police, they went looking for people online and just put people out there, with absolutely no vetting. This is not a "fog of war" mistake. It's highly unprofessional, outrageous and inexcusable.

If he has a history of partisanship or tea party hatred I would agree. Otherwise it's nothing more than what I've seen happen before. Reporters try to dig up any info about someone and put it out there before getting confirmation.

What was his source, Pam? Was it Google? DId anybody ask?

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Ironically, the former president of ABC News was just on Morning Edition yesterday and questioned the value of networks' efforts to be "first" with the news.
[www.npr.org]

I think media outlets ponder this frequently. And then in a crisis all sense of reason flies out the window.