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| Re: moveon video outlining GOP white house strategy Date: August 18, 2012 08:06AM |
That video sums it up in a nutshell: if Mitt runs on nothing but his merits, he will lose.
| Re: moveon video outlining GOP white house strategy Date: August 18, 2012 11:31AM |
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Wags
Seems like the goal here is to get the vote out. At this point most people have already made up there minds. The Republican base made up their minds long before Romney/Ryan even made the ticket. For them its all about their fear and hatred of Obama, rooted in racism and fueled by hate radio. For the Democrats and Independents its mostly about overcoming their apathy.
I see, racism and hate. Is that all you've got, race baiting? Give it up. You are calling about half of the country (who are Republicans) racists and haters. Do you really believe that? All this because they disagree with you?
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/18/2012 11:35AM by swampy.
| Re: moveon video outlining GOP white house strategy Date: August 18, 2012 12:25PM |
No, they are calling a portion of the 1% racists. If you want to identify with the party that has admitted trying to use voter supression of the poor and minorities to win the election, that is up to you.
in tha 510.
in tha 510.| Re: moveon video outlining GOP white house strategy Date: August 19, 2012 07:48PM |
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Dennis S
Look in the mirror, swampy.
Funny thing is that there have been several times when the swampy persona has effectively declared "yeah, I'm racist, too bad if you don't like it" and then she'll turn around and act like it's an insult when it suits her.
Can that be improved?
Don't know that I've ever said I was racist, but I will admit to being prejudice and you would too if you were completely honest. You see I don't like people who lie, cheat or steal. Neither do I like people who are arrogant know-it-alls or bullies. It's not a matter of skin color, sexual preference or religious belief. I have had friends from all walks of life, all colors and faiths. My relationship with them is based on their personal character. Obviously this means that there are some people that I deem not worthy of my respect so I don't include them in my life, The fact that I pick and chose those to whom I offer my respect seems to bother some folks in this forum and they call me racist because I don't like or respect the same people they do.
When it comes to race, I reserve the right to respect one black person and not another. I've long praised Condi Rice, Allen West, Herman Cain, Bob Parks, J.C.Watts, Martin Luther King, Thomas Sowell, Barbara Jordan and many other blacks. Do you see a trend? They are all conservatives. So it's not a matter or race, but of idologies. Folks around here tend to call me racist because I don't like or respect Obama, Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton and other liberals.
Does this give me the right to call you a racist when you make derogatory comments about the blacks that I like and admire?
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/19/2012 07:50PM by swampy.
| Re: moveon video outlining GOP white house strategy Date: August 20, 2012 09:51AM |
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$tevie
Swampy, I call you a racist because you insist on attempting to prove that our Black President is a foreigner and an Undeserving Affirmative Action Recipient and a Communist and a Socialist and a fraud.
That's a damn sight different than saying that you disagree with his policies, or his actions, or even than saying you think he is ugly or stupid or dresses funny.
Trying to prove he is some kind of "other" who didn't deserve to be elected is racist. Sorry, but it is true.
EDIT: used the wrong "site". Time to go to bed!
Why is it so important for you to constantly need to point out that he's black? Obviously that means a lot to you and I couldn't care less what color he is. I chose not to define him by race or color. I chose to define him by his lack of clear moral clarity. He lies or obscures his true beliefs. He continually says one thing and does another so I don't know what to believe of him. I refuse to blindly follow him down any path he goes because I don't trust him to be honest and straight forward.
Are you saying that just because he's black he should get a pass and never have his past, intentions, associates, ideology or other characteristics questioned. Do you honestly think that just because he's black everyone must blindly follow him and love and adore him?
By your definition, I'd be racist if I was "trying to prove" Mitt Romney was "some kind of other who didn't deserve to be elected". That doesn't even make sense.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
| Re: moveon video outlining GOP white house strategy Date: August 20, 2012 11:21AM |
You keep talking about black/white. It's not supposed to matter to you liberals, yet you keep pointing it out so it appears that race is very important you. $tevie, it puts a qualifier on any judgment you make about Obama. He's black so you can't see his lies. He's black so you can't question his relationship with radicals. He's black so you won't ask questions about his college records.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/20/2012 11:24AM by swampy.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/20/2012 11:24AM by swampy.
| Re: moveon video outlining GOP white house strategy Date: August 20, 2012 12:40PM |
I don't recall having a POTUS that has been so secretive about his past. Most Presidents have been an open book. Just as the libbies like to speculate about Romney's taxes, conservatives have had to speculate about Obamas birth place, associates, college records, religious beliefs. etc.
About the birth certificate. I still have questions. A select few have been allowed to see it. What was released to "the public" was given to the Annenberg Foundation sponsored Fact Check, not to the judge that ordered its release and what was supposed to be the "true document" still has issues that could lead one to believe it was fake.. Those of us who still question it know the connection between the Annenberg Foundation, Barack Obama and Bill Ayres. All the other questions that still float around unanswered lead many to ask why Obama can't just come clean? What's he hiding? Same for his school records. If he won't produce them, then I am free to assume anything I want to. The more he protests, the more I'm prone to believe that he lied on his applications and claimed to be a foreign student in order to get special considerations. Ican only imagine the reaction from the people if this were proven the case! What do you know that proves me wrong? I'd hate to think that we've all been duped, but so many things about this man ring false or go unanswered.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
About the birth certificate. I still have questions. A select few have been allowed to see it. What was released to "the public" was given to the Annenberg Foundation sponsored Fact Check, not to the judge that ordered its release and what was supposed to be the "true document" still has issues that could lead one to believe it was fake.. Those of us who still question it know the connection between the Annenberg Foundation, Barack Obama and Bill Ayres. All the other questions that still float around unanswered lead many to ask why Obama can't just come clean? What's he hiding? Same for his school records. If he won't produce them, then I am free to assume anything I want to. The more he protests, the more I'm prone to believe that he lied on his applications and claimed to be a foreign student in order to get special considerations. Ican only imagine the reaction from the people if this were proven the case! What do you know that proves me wrong? I'd hate to think that we've all been duped, but so many things about this man ring false or go unanswered.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
| Re: moveon video outlining GOP white house strategy Date: August 20, 2012 01:23PM |
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$tevie
No POTUS has ever been asked to show any of these documents before. You see my point? There were 42 Presidents that weren't asked about any of this. What makes this one so different? As if I didn't know.
Nobody HAD to ask. Every POTUS until now had history that was in the public domain. In the case of Obama the press never asked questions. The people asked and were denied straight forward answers or access to applicable documents that provide answers. He's the Enigma in Chief.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
| Re: moveon video outlining GOP white house strategy Date: August 20, 2012 01:33PM |
What does Hank Williams have to do with this? I'm not Hank Williams. I'm not responsible for what he says or does.
BTW Williams did not compare Obama to Hitler. Get your facts right. He was talking about Boehner and Obama playing golf together and said that would be LIKE Netanyaho and Hitler playing golf together. It was an analogy. Distasteful perhaps, but not hate speech.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
BTW Williams did not compare Obama to Hitler. Get your facts right. He was talking about Boehner and Obama playing golf together and said that would be LIKE Netanyaho and Hitler playing golf together. It was an analogy. Distasteful perhaps, but not hate speech.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
| Re: moveon video outlining GOP white house strategy Date: August 21, 2012 11:08AM |
Proud of Obama's "American" story? I'm amazed at his story!
Child of a black Marxist father, white communist mother raised in Indonesia as a young child attending Muslim schools grows up to be mentored by a card carrying Communist black radical poet. He spends his high school and early college days doing drugs, making mediocre grades and hanging with followers of Malcolm X. Somehow he manages to gain acceptance to Columbia and Harvard and obtains a law degree. He becomes a community activist in Chicago, and works with ACORN and where he associates with known terrorist Bill Ayres and Bernadette Dohrn and attends the church of Black Liberation Theology preacher Jeremiah Wright. In typical Chicago style, he beats out political opponents to become a State Senator where he sets a record for the most "present" votes ever cast in that legislative body. He goes on to become Illinois Senator where "present" continues to be his vote of choice. After running a campaign based on "Hope and Change", transparency, and a new Purple America, he took his place as President of the United States of America. Since that time he has broken campaign promise after promise, continued to blame former President Bush for all the economic woes, and through political rhetoric divided the nation into squabbling partisan camps. He is married and has two lovely children. In his spare time he enjoys entertaining Hollywood stars and sports figures in the White House and playing golf.
It is an amazing story.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
Child of a black Marxist father, white communist mother raised in Indonesia as a young child attending Muslim schools grows up to be mentored by a card carrying Communist black radical poet. He spends his high school and early college days doing drugs, making mediocre grades and hanging with followers of Malcolm X. Somehow he manages to gain acceptance to Columbia and Harvard and obtains a law degree. He becomes a community activist in Chicago, and works with ACORN and where he associates with known terrorist Bill Ayres and Bernadette Dohrn and attends the church of Black Liberation Theology preacher Jeremiah Wright. In typical Chicago style, he beats out political opponents to become a State Senator where he sets a record for the most "present" votes ever cast in that legislative body. He goes on to become Illinois Senator where "present" continues to be his vote of choice. After running a campaign based on "Hope and Change", transparency, and a new Purple America, he took his place as President of the United States of America. Since that time he has broken campaign promise after promise, continued to blame former President Bush for all the economic woes, and through political rhetoric divided the nation into squabbling partisan camps. He is married and has two lovely children. In his spare time he enjoys entertaining Hollywood stars and sports figures in the White House and playing golf.
It is an amazing story.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
| Re: moveon video outlining GOP white house strategy Date: August 21, 2012 12:39PM |
Everything I said is true $tevie. You know it and you can't stand it. As far as somehow getting into college we don't know how he managed that since his academic record in high school was less than steller and it was the same for his days at Occidental that appeared were no better. He might have redeemed himself at Columbia or Harvard, but we have no record so we don't know. He did become the second man of color to be head of the Harvard Law Review, but that is more of a popularity contest than an academic achievement.
All statements are true. Most come directly from his auto biography. That a stoner and slacker was able to make his way to the White House is an amazing story. Who would have thought, hey?
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
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All statements are true. Most come directly from his auto biography. That a stoner and slacker was able to make his way to the White House is an amazing story. Who would have thought, hey?
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/21/2012 12:41PM by swampy.
| Re: moveon video outlining GOP white house strategy Date: August 21, 2012 05:43PM |
Come on $tevie. What isn't true? Every bit of it is DOCUMENTED.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
| Re: moveon video outlining GOP white house strategy Date: August 21, 2012 06:30PM |
Only the things I portrayed are documented. I never mentioned his birth certificate or place of birth, but even that is not relevant to my depiction of his known history.
Who said anything about affirmative action? How he managed to pay for college is unknown. I think he "fudged" his applications to reflect that he was a foreign (Kenyan? Indonesian?) student and that would have provided a separate path to scholarships than that of affirmative action. It would also be a very good reason he doesn't want to reveal his college records because he might be caught in a(nother) lie. None of this has anything to do with race, only the truthfulness of his applications. Questioning his veracity is not being racist.
Keep trying.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
Who said anything about affirmative action? How he managed to pay for college is unknown. I think he "fudged" his applications to reflect that he was a foreign (Kenyan? Indonesian?) student and that would have provided a separate path to scholarships than that of affirmative action. It would also be a very good reason he doesn't want to reveal his college records because he might be caught in a(nother) lie. None of this has anything to do with race, only the truthfulness of his applications. Questioning his veracity is not being racist.
Keep trying.
If you don't stand for something, you'll probably fall for anything.
| Re: moveon video outlining GOP white house strategy Date: August 21, 2012 11:25PM |
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swampy
All statements are true. Most come directly from his auto biography. That a stoner and slacker was able to make his way to the White House is an amazing story. Who would have thought, hey?
Wait, I'm confused. I thought this was a thread about Obama, Not GW Bush.
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| Re: moveon video outlining GOP white house strategy Date: August 22, 2012 08:32AM |
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