I know it's bad form for the body of the message to have only a link but I can't think of anything to say right now other than this is an article from Reuters news service.

[finance.yahoo.com]

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MYTH TWO: MEDICARE IS GOVERNMENT HEALTHCARE

Facts: The government funds Medicare, but healthcare delivery is entirely private.

Funny thing, the same was true about the interstate highway system but there the government practically picked up shovels and built the roads. Government built Hoover Dam using government cement too.

You provided an accurate headline and a link to a reputable site. It's nice when the poster includes a paragraph or two from the original article so that we know what we're clicking a link for, but given the context and subject-line what you did was fine.

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Quoting the whole of an article as some do is potentially copyright infringement.

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Avenger
MYTH TWO: MEDICARE IS GOVERNMENT HEALTHCARE

Facts: The government funds Medicare, but healthcare delivery is entirely private.

Funny thing, the same was true about the interstate highway system but there the government practically picked up shovels and built the roads. Government built Hoover Dam using government cement too.

As with most construction projects, including the creation of new roads, the Hoover Dam was built by private employers who won a bidding war.

[en.wikipedia.org]

The Wattis Brothers, heads of the Utah Construction Company, were interested in bidding on the project, but lacked the money for the performance bond. They lacked sufficient resources even in combination with their longtime partners, Morrison-Knudsen, which employed the nation's leading dam builder, Frank Crowe. They formed a joint venture to bid for the project with Pacific Bridge Company of Portland, Oregon; Henry J. Kaiser & W. A. Bechtel Company of San Francisco; MacDonald & Kahn Ltd. of Los Angeles; and the J.F. Shea Company of Portland, Oregon.[23] The joint venture was called Six Companies, Inc.—Bechtel and Kaiser were considered one company for purposes of the name. The name was descriptive and was an inside joke among the San Franciscans in the bid—"Six Companies" was a Chinese benevolent association in the city.[24] There were three valid bids, and Six Companies' bid of $48,890,955 was the lowest, within $24,000 of the confidential government estimate of what the dam would cost to build, and five million dollars less than the next lowest bid.

How true is the following?

"Because medicare payouts are so low, providers must increase fees to other patients in order to break even."

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How true is the following?

"Because medicare payouts are so low, providers must increase fees to other patients in order to break even."

Doctors set those fees and most insurance companies follow the same or a similar fee schedule. If anything, the fees are too high and the list of codes used for various procedures is not sufficiently comprehensive.

[online.wsj.com]

There has been about a 3% decline in Medicare acceptance since 2005, mostly due to private insurers competing with Medicare by requiring a little less paperwork.

>>As with most construction projects, including the creation of new roads, the Hoover Dam was built by private employers who won a bidding war.<<

If you didn't get the sarcasm let me elaborate. When it suits the agenda, private industry is never credited for government funded projects. Government took men the moon, government builds roads and bridges, government cures diseases, government finds new drugs. But all of a sudden Medicare is not government. It all meshes nicely with You Didn't Build That mentality.

Let me add another myth: You get free healthcare when you reach 65. God knowns how many citizens believe that until they find out that their rehab center kicks them out after 100 days after a lifetime of paying into the system.

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Avenger
>>As with most construction projects, including the creation of new roads, the Hoover Dam was built by private employers who won a bidding war.<<

If you didn't get the sarcasm let me elaborate. When it suits the agenda, private industry is never credited for government funded projects. Government took men the moon, government builds roads and bridges, government cures diseases, government finds new drugs...

Are you suggesting that JPL and NASA had nothing to do with putting men into space?

And municipal/state/federal governments are not responsible for creating and maintaining roads?

And NIH doesn't develop cures for diseases?

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Avenger
Let me add another myth: You get free healthcare when you reach 65. God knowns how many citizens believe that until they find out that their rehab center kicks them out after 100 days after a lifetime of paying into the system.

Medicare does not pay for your stay in a nursing home. I think that is pretty well understood rather than a myth.

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Medicare does not pay for your stay in a nursing home. I think that is pretty well understood rather than a myth.

However Medicaid will. There are requirements to be met, but once that is done there is no limit depending on the state.

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Medicare does not pay for your stay in a nursing home. I think that is pretty well understood rather than a myth.

However Medicaid will. There are requirements to be met, but once that is done there is no limit depending on the state.

I'm not sure what that has to do with the price of tea in China but yes, Medicaid will pay... IF you don't have a long-term care policy and IF you have exhausted all your personal resources (by paying it all to the nursing home).

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Believe me, you don't want to drop your mom at a nursing home facility that takes Medicaid. They are the epitome of dingy, dark and often filthy human warehouses. Besides, why doesn't Medicare pay for it? You seem to be very comfortable with the ideal of leaving grandma on the street at her most needy moment.

I had to put my mother in a nursing home under Medicaid. It was none of the above. If you could not find an adequate place, that shows how poorly you searched.

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Believe me, you don't want to drop your mom at a nursing home facility that takes Medicaid. They are the epitome of dingy, dark and often filthy human warehouses. Besides, why doesn't Medicare pay for it? You seem to be very comfortable with the ideal of leaving grandma on the street at her most needy moment.

Medicare, Medicaid; different pockets of the same pants.

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Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.

Tell that to doctors, hospitals and nursing homes. Those that accept Medicaid are closest to what you would consider "state facility".

Apparently Dakota doesn't know the difference in Medicare and Medicaid.

What I do know is that after a life time of paying into the system, grandma is given 100 days to get young again or she is shipped to a state facility.

Apparently Dakota doesn't know the difference in Medicare and Medicaid.

So it would appear Dakota supports the expansion of Medicare to include nursing home care.

SOCIALIST!

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So it would appear Dakota supports the expansion of Medicare to include nursing home care.

If you want to take credit for "free" healthcare for seniors, you are damn right I do. What we have now is a scam where grandma pays into the system all her life only to find out she got 100 days of coverage.

[www.longtermcare.gov]

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I counted more "does not pay" and "not covered" in that chart.

Dakota is trolling again. He can't be that stupid.

Sure sign of throwing down the towel.

After Medicare expires grandma goes on Medicaid.

A curiosity. My daughter received Medicare due to kidney failure. She had private health insurance as well as Medicaid. The interesting thing is that she used up her lifetime long term hospitalization under Medicare before Medicare paid a penny for her care which happened when she was around 18 months old. Not a big deal as Medicaid will pick up her hospitalization as needed. Medicaid is great singlepayer.

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Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.

Anyone who says Medicaid is "great" is in for a rude awakening. Facilities that accept Medicaid are the equivalent of public housing. If you drop off your mom there, I suggest you don't go back for visits.

I like the idea of people living under bridges and eating dog food. Personal freedom. The sky is the limit for them.