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Political spite
Posted by: swampy
Date: August 28, 2012 02:08PM
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Re: Political spite
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: August 28, 2012 02:11PM
THIS is the definition of a Naive Person:


“The power of politicians should not be used for partisan retribution," Newland said.
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Re: Political spite
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 28, 2012 02:17PM
Why should a company that denies basic health care to employees be rewarded as a company with excellent health care?
The city of Denver doesn't have to lie, you know.
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Re: Political spite
Posted by: $tevie
Date: August 28, 2012 02:37PM
“The power of politicians should not be used for partisan retribution," Newland said. "The merits of Hercules [Industries] should stand on their own. This proclamation acknowledges our success and should of gone forward, but it didn’t for their personal reasons and their own beliefs.”

"should HAVE gone forward". Why does everyone make this mistake? It irks the heck out of me.

The lack of English language skills may also explain why they can't understand the woman's explanation of why the award nomination has been rescinded. She clearly states that it would be a lightning rod for an acrimonious political battle. She used the term "red meat" and "food fight" instead of "lightning rod" and "political battle" but it shouldn't be so difficult to figure out what she is saying.

FOX viewers LOVE to be ticked off. They thrive on it.


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Re: Political spite
Posted by: swampy
Date: August 28, 2012 02:45PM
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Lemon Drop
Why should a company that denies basic health care to employees be rewarded as a company with excellent health care?
The city of Denver doesn't have to lie, you know.

Obviously you did not read and comprehend the full article...

Hercules Industries, a heating, ventilation, and air-conditioning manufacturer that employs 300 workers and has been in business in the Mile-High City for 50 years, was to be honored with a “Good Citizenship Award." The laurel was in recognition of contributions to the community, including the historic restoration of company headquarters and, ironically, its “generous employee health care coverage.”




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Re: Political spite
Posted by: swampy
Date: August 28, 2012 02:51PM
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$tevie
“The power of politicians should not be used for partisan retribution," Newland said. "The merits of Hercules [Industries] should stand on their own. This proclamation acknowledges our success and should of gone forward, but it didn’t for their personal reasons and their own beliefs.”

"should HAVE gone forward". Why does everyone make this mistake? It irks the heck out of me.

The lack of English language skills may also explain why they can't understand the woman's explanation of why the award nomination has been rescinded. She clearly states that it would be a lightning rod for an acrimonious political battle. She used the term "red meat" and "food fight" instead of "lightning rod" and "political battle" but it shouldn't be so difficult to figure out what she is saying.

FOX viewers LOVE to be ticked off. They thrive on it.

Well the state legislature did the right thing and made the award anyway.. What you have here is a libtard who felt the Court ruled against HER view so took things into her own hands to mete out her own form of retribution. It has nothing to do with her language skills.




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Re: Political spite
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 28, 2012 02:54PM
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swampy
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Lemon Drop
Why should a company that denies basic health care to employees be rewarded as a company with excellent health care?
The city of Denver doesn't have to lie, you know.

Obviously you did not read and comprehend the full article...

Hercules Industries, a heating, ventilation, and air-conditioning manufacturer that employs 300 workers and has been in business in the Mile-High City for 50 years, was to be honored with a “Good Citizenship Award." The laurel was in recognition of contributions to the community, including the historic restoration of company headquarters and, ironically, its “generous employee health care coverage.”

What exactly did I not comprehend?
This company doesn't want to offer contraceptive coverage to employees. That is, by definition, not good employee health care.
Why should Denver honor them for something they don't deserve?
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Re: Political spite
Posted by: swampy
Date: August 28, 2012 03:03PM
It's called religious freedom. I would think 300 employees with good paying jobs could afford to purchase their own and I doubt if any of them were complaining about it.




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Re: Political spite
Posted by: lafinfil
Date: August 28, 2012 03:09PM
I wonder how much taxpayer money is wasted handing out "government awards" ?


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Re: Political spite
Posted by: $tevie
Date: August 28, 2012 03:19PM
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Re: Political spite
Posted by: $tevie
Date: August 28, 2012 03:21PM
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swampy
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$tevie
“The power of politicians should not be used for partisan retribution," Newland said. "The merits of Hercules [Industries] should stand on their own. This proclamation acknowledges our success and should of gone forward, but it didn’t for their personal reasons and their own beliefs.”

"should HAVE gone forward". Why does everyone make this mistake? It irks the heck out of me.

The lack of English language skills may also explain why they can't understand the woman's explanation of why the award nomination has been rescinded. She clearly states that it would be a lightning rod for an acrimonious political battle. She used the term "red meat" and "food fight" instead of "lightning rod" and "political battle" but it shouldn't be so difficult to figure out what she is saying.

FOX viewers LOVE to be ticked off. They thrive on it.

Well the state legislature did the right thing and made the award anyway.. What you have here is a libtard who felt the Court ruled against HER view so took things into her own hands to mete out her own form of retribution. It has nothing to do with her language skills.

You know what? FOX IS trying to turn it into an acrimonious battle. It IS a lightning rod, isn't it? Blah blah blah, BFD about a stupid award. Maybe they should think about separation of church and state before they pick up a GOVERNMENT award, what with them being a Big Fat Catholic Company and all. Whining hypocrites.


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Re: Political spite
Posted by: swampy
Date: August 28, 2012 03:26PM
Way to express your tolerance, $tevie. FoxNews has nothing to do with this woman's apparent hatred for anyone who lives their faith.




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Re: Political spite
Posted by: $tevie
Date: August 28, 2012 03:27PM
Says the woman who called people "libtards". Eff you, Swampy.


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Re: Political spite
Posted by: $tevie
Date: August 28, 2012 03:28PM
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swampy
Way to express your tolerance, $tevie. FoxNews has nothing to do with this woman's apparent hatred for anyone who lives their faith.

Yeah? Let's see how respectful of faith you are if a Muslim tries to do something you disagree with. B*tch.


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Re: Political spite
Posted by: swampy
Date: August 28, 2012 03:33PM
Is libtard worse than wing nut?




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Re: Political spite
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 28, 2012 03:37PM
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swampy
It's called religious freedom. I would think 300 employees with good paying jobs could afford to purchase their own and I doubt if any of them were complaining about it.

Average salary for jobs listed at Hercules: $21,000. 71% below national average.


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Re: Political spite
Posted by: Gutenberg
Date: August 28, 2012 04:16PM
Why should an employer be allowed to dictate the health care available to his employees? Why is the employer Daddy? Equal health care should be available for all, and it should be single-payer. Let the health insurance actuaries go get an honest job. We all--Presidents, congresspeople, moms, dads, CEOs, kids, old people, young people, middle aged people--should have Medicare.
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Re: Political spite
Posted by: swampy
Date: August 28, 2012 04:32PM
I'm sure an employee can opt out of "big daddy employer's" health care and go buy his own. At least for now it's a free country.




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Re: Political spite
Posted by: davester
Date: August 28, 2012 04:38PM
Does this mean that a company owned by christian scientists can substitute prayer for doctors and medical services and call it "generous employee health care coverage"? Hey, if you want government money you have to play by government rules (i.e. no waivers based on religious grounds except for services to yourself).



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Re: Political spite
Posted by: $tevie
Date: August 28, 2012 04:41PM
It's just something to get mad about. FOX viewers need to be upset all the time or their brains might kick in.


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Re: Political spite
Posted by: swampy
Date: August 28, 2012 04:42PM
It's not a question of wanting government money.




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Re: Political spite
Posted by: swampy
Date: August 28, 2012 04:43PM
Fox is not going away, $tevie. Get over it.




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Re: Political spite
Posted by: $tevie
Date: August 28, 2012 05:04PM
Of course it won't go away. There is no end to the morons who will watch it.


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Re: Political spite
Posted by: $tevie
Date: August 28, 2012 05:11PM
Dammit, give me my AWARD!!!

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Re: Political spite
Posted by: $tevie
Date: August 28, 2012 05:16PM
Say, what is this? Some kind of reference to SLAVERY??

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Re: Political spite
Posted by: $tevie
Date: August 28, 2012 05:20PM
Of course I don't have any protection. Do I look like a Democrat to you??

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Re: Political spite
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: August 28, 2012 06:23PM
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swampy
Fox is not going away, $tevie. Get over it.

Pro rasslin is not going away, either. America has an endless supply of @#$%&.
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Re: Political spite
Posted by: Ca Bob
Date: August 28, 2012 06:27PM
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swampy
.. What you have here is a libtard who felt the Court ruled against HER view so took things into her own hands to mete out her own form of retribution. It has nothing to do with her language skills.

Libtard? Does this stand for something like liberal and retard? Is this the way you talk to other people, as opposed to anonymous assassinations on the internet? Is this word a term of art in the conservative blogsphere? I'm a liberal and I will match IQ points with the Swampy persona any day of the week, and on the weekends I'll match it two for one.
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Re: Political spite
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 28, 2012 06:30PM
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swampy
I'm sure an employee can opt out of "big daddy employer's" health care and go buy his own. At least for now it's a free country.

On $21,000 a year? Price some health insurance plans and get back to us.
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Re: Political spite
Posted by: $tevie
Date: August 28, 2012 06:30PM
Libtard is a really popular term on the right wing internet. Evidently Sarah Palin hasn't noticed it yet.


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Re: Political spite
Posted by: swampy
Date: August 28, 2012 06:36PM
Libtard can't be any worse than "wing nut, racist, extremists, righ wing nut job f yous, b*tch" or any of the other pejoratives you kind and genteel Progressive Liberals bandy around so freely.




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Re: Political spite
Posted by: Pam
Date: August 28, 2012 07:50PM
I really don't get this religious exemption bullcrap. If you don't want it, don't use it. Religious freedom means you also can't force your views on others, which is what this company is doing. As for religious orgs that offer heath insurance, they're doing the same thing. What's funny is they're also admitting that their "believers" use birth control otherwise there'd be no issue. What is not funny is there are many, non birth control reasons for prescribing birth control pills. So now you punish those who have a non control medical reason for the pills. Long live the Christian Taliban.
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Re: Political spite
Posted by: swampy
Date: August 28, 2012 08:48PM
I just don't understand why an employer, who' religious beliefs oppose birth control should be forced to pay for birth control (or abortion) for someone else. SOMEONE ELSE. The employer isn't necessarily denying anyone their right to use birth control (or have an abortion), but you would force him/her to go against their religious beliefs and supply it. Whose forcing who?

But we've been here before.




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Re: Political spite
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 28, 2012 09:09PM
On the plus side, women in Denver know where not to work now.
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Re: Political spite
Posted by: john dough
Date: August 28, 2012 09:09PM



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Re: Political spite
Posted by: Sam3
Date: August 28, 2012 09:31PM
Instead of a facepalm, I'd like to hear someone rationally answer Swampy.
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Re: Political spite
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 28, 2012 09:52PM
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Sam3
Instead of a facepalm, I'd like to hear someone rationally answer Swampy.

There are threads on this going back many months. Don't know if anyone wants to debate it again. What is there left to say?
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Re: Political spite
Posted by: Chakravartin
Date: August 28, 2012 10:08PM
I just don't understand why an employer, who' political beliefs oppose public roads should be forced to pay for public roads (or bridges) for someone else. SOMEONE ELSE. The employer isn't necessarily denying anyone their right to use roads (or bridges), but you would force him/her to go against their political beliefs and supply it. Whose forcing who?
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Re: Political spite
Posted by: decay
Date: August 28, 2012 10:22PM
Palin doesn't use libtard because she has a retarded family member.

probably the only reason.




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Re: Political spite
Posted by: Speedy
Date: August 28, 2012 10:29PM
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decay
Palin doesn't use libtard because she has a retarded family member.

probably the only reason.

And she also has a son who has Down's Syndrome.


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Re: Political spite
Posted by: Ca Bob
Date: August 28, 2012 10:30PM
It's not whether anyone else uses insulting terminology. It's that you did. The problem with that word libtard is that it is an argument and an assertion masked in a neologism. If I point out that the birthers are demonstrating racist tendencies, that is an argument based on evidence and subject to refutation by anybody who cares to make the attempt. I will stand by my judgment regarding the birthers, but I could conceivably be convinced that there are those who follow that trail without thinking of themselves as racists. But to combine the idea of liberalism with the idea of mental retardation is just to point the finger back at yourself. And finally, this site is not ordinarily the place for lots of profane, insulting usages. You did, and I would ask you to restrain yourself a bit.
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Re: Political spite
Posted by: $tevie
Date: August 28, 2012 10:33PM
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Sam3
Instead of a facepalm, I'd like to hear someone rationally answer Swampy.

She was complaining about a nomination for an award. The only rational response is "Get a life".

As for the rest of it, it's been done to death.


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Re: Political spite
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: August 28, 2012 10:41PM
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Sam3
Instead of a facepalm, I'd like to hear someone rationally answer Swampy.

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Re: Political spite
Posted by: john dough
Date: August 28, 2012 10:53PM
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Sam3
Instead of a facepalm, I'd like to hear someone rationally answer Swampy.

She does not answer direct questions, she does not back up what she is talking about with facts, she does not correct what she posts when proven wrong and she is often proven to be a liar. All she is worthy of is a facepalm, nothing else.


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Re: Political spite
Posted by: hal
Date: August 28, 2012 11:39PM
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Dennis S
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Sam3
Instead of a facepalm, I'd like to hear someone rationally answer Swampy.


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Re: Political spite
Posted by: RgrF
Date: August 29, 2012 02:06AM
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$tevie
It's just something to get mad about. FOX viewers need to be upset all the time or their brains might kick in.

Presumes something not in evidence.
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