Now they are polling people not only about whom they will vote for, but who they think will win.
[www.slate.com]

POLL OVERKILL!!!

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They need to poll people about what they think the next poll result will be.

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They need to poll people about what they think the next poll result will be.

Sounds like we need some poll locks

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I'll disagree.

Asking people who they think will win IS a relevant factor in voting trends. Certainly in recent times, who people "think" will win the presidency has turned out to be true. AND, as others have pointed out, people like to vote for "winners".

Even right leaning RCP now has the popular vote at a tie, with Obama ahead in electoral votes for the first time in awhile at RCP.

Intrade has Obama at 68%

THAT'S why there has been such a strong backlash against Nate's model. (Obama currently at 77.4%)

It's why Drudge keeps spewing nonsense like outlier polls suggesting that Romney will win a landslide. (His current tease is "SEX SCANDAL TO HIT CAMPAIGN... DEVELOPING...)

It's why Dick Morris has to do a lot of hand waving.

Do I think Obama is a shoo-in? Nope. But I do think that the path for Romney to 270 is quite narrow. It's why he didn't dare take a day or 2 off the campaign trail after Sandy. I think that there is a growing perception that Obama will win. And Romney has to fight that tooth and nail.

It "may" be too late.

RCP has 11 states in toss-up category right now, which is really unusual for this close to the election. They haven't changed their no toss-up scenario, which has Obama winning with 290 EV's.

And Gallup issued a post yesterday that might explain why their polls are differing so much from others - they are expecting low turnout this year, lower than '04 or '08, they think it might even look like 2000, which had unusually low turnout. That helps Republicans.

So I think the more important question is not who do you think will win, but rather are you motivated to vote this year, are you going to do it?
It's about turnout levels and not much else at this point.

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$tevie
Now they are polling people not only about whom they will vote for, but who they think will win.
[www.slate.com]

POLL OVERKILL!!!

37% of those questioned agreed with this position, 29% disagreed, and 11% had no opinion. The 3 numbers are all within the margin of error, with a sample size of 4 unlikely voters.

If we institute a mandatory recursive polling of pollsters, will they all end up in rubber rooms asking themselves increasingly inane questions ?

$tevie,

You just gotta get used to the idea that your guy is done.

Welcome to four years of the Rominator.

This is gonna be a landslide like Reagan over Carter 1980.

Yeah, sure, that's why I'm complaining about a poll that says Obama is going to win.

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Bread Crumbs
$tevie,

You just gotta get used to the idea that your guy is done.

Welcome to four years of the Rominator.

This is gonna be a landslide like Reagan over Carter 1980.

Thank you for that analysis, Karl Rove.

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$tevie
Yeah, sure, that's why I'm complaining about a poll that says Obama is going to win.

You can't argue with bread crumbs.

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$tevie
Yeah, sure, that's why I'm complaining about a poll that says Obama is going to win.

You can't argue with bread crumbs.

Nothing a middling Dust Buster™ can't handle...

=wr=

64.7% of all statistics are just made up.

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"If you break a crumb in half, you don't have two half-crumbs. You got two crumbs, man!"

I did hear that on Faux Benghazi News. Dick Morris and Karl Rove proclaim it.

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Bread Crumbs
$tevie,

You just gotta get used to the idea that your guy is done.

Welcome to four years of the Rominator.

This is gonna be a landslide like Reagan over Carter 1980.

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Speedy
I did hear that on Faux Benghazi News. Dick Morris and Karl Rove proclaim it.

Yeah, I read those two. I think Morris is truly delusional and didn't even present a case for the view. Rove is just pretending to be dumb and just rattles off all of the BS points. That man is EVIL!

Rove truly believes that most of the citizens of this country are idiots who can be led by the nose, and who can blame him really? So he will go around proclaiming victory for Romney with the idea that the dimwits will go "vote for the winner". I hope it backfires and the dimwits all stay home on Tuesday.

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