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White socialism in America: understanding what Trump voters want
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: March 17, 2017 09:36AM
This is a really great essay. Cuts to the heart of why people vote for candidates like Donald Trump. It seems they are voting against their own interests, but they're not. What they want is greater enforcement of the white privilege system that has made some, but not all, Americans comfortable for generations, at great expense to the public.

"Companies can deduct the cost of their employees’ health insurance while employees are not required to report that benefit as income. That results in roughly a $400 billion annual transfer of funds from state and federal treasuries to insurers to provide coverage for the Americans least in need of assistance. This is one of the defining features of white socialism, the most generous benefits go to those who are best suited to provide for themselves. Those benefits are not limited to health care."

"Why are economically struggling blue collar voters rejecting a party that offers to expand public safety net programs? The reality is that the bulk of needy white voters are not interested in the public safety net. They want to restore their access to an older safety net, one much more generous, dignified, and stable than the public system – the one most well-employed voters still enjoy.

When it seems like people are voting against their interests, I have probably failed to understand their interests. We cannot begin to understand Election 2016 until we acknowledge the power and reach of socialism for white people.

Americans with good jobs live in a socialist welfare state more generous, cushioned and expensive to the public than any in Europe. Like a European system, we pool our resources to share the burden of catastrophic expenses, but unlike European models, our approach doesn’t cover everyone."



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/17/2017 09:38AM by Lemon Drop.
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Re: White socialism in America: understanding what Trump voters want
Posted by: Acer
Date: March 17, 2017 10:06AM
I've long wondered why I can deduct every penny of my premiums through my employer's health plan, but I have to reach a 10% AGI floor before I can deduct any direct expenses. Seems inconsistent.
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Re: White socialism in America: understanding what Trump voters want
Posted by: deckeda
Date: March 17, 2017 04:27PM
Link?

The explanation seems to be that they (we, somebody?) wants the Good Ole Days, where the Company employed you for life, gave good bennies and then a solid pension?
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Re: White socialism in America: understanding what Trump voters want
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: March 17, 2017 05:12PM
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deckeda
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The explanation seems to be that they (we, somebody?) wants the Good Ole Days, where the Company employed you for life, gave good bennies and then a solid pension?

[www.forbes.com]

Sorry 'bout that.
It's more like heavily subsidized employer-based health care insurance, mortgage deductions, day care deductions, and the myriad other things that cost the government money when middle class people pay for them, at the expense of funding programs that would make health insurance, housing, day care, etc available to lower income people.
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Re: White socialism in America: understanding what Trump voters want
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Date: March 18, 2017 10:46AM




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Re: White socialism in America: understanding what Trump voters want
Posted by: vision63
Date: March 19, 2017 03:23PM
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Lemon Drop
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deckeda
Link?

The explanation seems to be that they (we, somebody?) wants the Good Ole Days, where the Company employed you for life, gave good bennies and then a solid pension?

[www.forbes.com]

Sorry 'bout that.
It's more like heavily subsidized employer-based health care insurance, mortgage deductions, day care deductions, and the myriad other things that cost the government money when middle class people pay for them, at the expense of funding programs that would make health insurance, housing, day care, etc available to lower income people.

It's interesting to see a deeper rationale for their voting behavior. I'm not unsympathetic to their desire for happiness. Unfortunately, I have to battle them. Only voting "for" their interests is the unethical equivalent to voting against their interests. We need to vote for all of our interests. Despite all of this. We need to simply focus on defeating them. For their good.
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