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It is legit....
Posted by: max
Date: April 16, 2017 12:28PM
The very people supported our "woman rights advocates"....

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A female Islamic professor .... Allah (God) makes permissible for Muslim men to rape non-Muslim women in order to ‘humiliate’ them. The astonishing claim was made by Suad Saleh, who is a professor from the renowned Al-Azhar University in Cairo, Egypt during the interview on Al-Hayat TV.
According to The Inquisitr News report, in the video posted by LiveLeak, Saud Saleh said that the rape is allowed during times of “legitimate war” between Muslims and their enemies. “The female prisoners of wars are ‘those whom you own.’ In order to humiliate them, they become the property of the army commander, or of a Muslim, and he can have sex with them just like he has sex with his wives,” Saleh was quoted as saying. (ALSO READ: Muslim leader Abdul Raheem Quraishi is dead)
While speaking on purchase of slaves from Asian countries for sexual purposes, Saleh said that Allah allows Muslim men to have sexual relations with slave women and that is ‘legitimate’. Saleh suggested that the only time it is acceptable for Muslim men to enslave a woman for sexual purposes is during a ‘legitimate war’ between Muslims and their enemies such as that with Israel.
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Re: It is legit....
Posted by: billb
Date: April 16, 2017 12:54PM
Islam is a religion of peace.
and good will.



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Re: It is legit....
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: April 16, 2017 01:03PM
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Deuteronomy 21:10
“When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house.

Christianity is a religion of peace.
and good will.


It's easy when you pick and choose.



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Re: It is legit....
Posted by: vision63
Date: April 16, 2017 01:15PM
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Ombligo
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Deuteronomy 21:10
“When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house.

Christianity is a religion of peace.
and good will.


It's easy when you pick and choose.

Lots of fine foxy Muslim women. Think this through.
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Re: It is legit....
Posted by: Speedy
Date: April 16, 2017 04:31PM
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Ombligo
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Deuteronomy 21:10
“When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house.

Christianity is a religion of peace.
and good will.


It's easy when you pick and choose.

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Re: It is legit....
Posted by: max
Date: April 16, 2017 08:37PM
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Ombligo
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Deuteronomy 21:10
“When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house.

Christianity is a religion of peace.
and good will.


It's easy when you pick and choose.

And you interpreted that passage that it is OK to rape her at your will.
Interesting view you have, Ombligo, do you have any examples where any of the rabbinical theologians of the last century or two, agree with you?
Or you can give us an example when a Pope, or a Catholic theologian from one of the major Catholic schools issued an interpretation in the last 100 or 200 years, the way you see it, it is OK to rape your female war spoils?
Jesuits should be a good hunting ground for your excuse, they were on the forefront of the Catholic orthodoxy....


It should be easy, since you can pick and choose...
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Re: It is legit....
Posted by: $tevie
Date: April 17, 2017 09:02AM
You are picking and choosing when you cite one professor who is spouting such BS.



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Re: It is legit....
Posted by: August West
Date: April 17, 2017 10:23AM
The unfortunate fact is that when this professor legitimizes rape, there are people who will cite the professor's authority to endorse and engage in the practice. Witness ISIS' enslavement of women. Regardless of opinion of max's motivations for posting, to not recognize and call out the danger of this professor's (rather dated) pronouncements is egregious.



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Re: It is legit....
Posted by: pdq
Date: April 17, 2017 01:43PM
As we all know, the bible is full of incest, polygamy, murder, infanticide, and slavery (just to name a few). If someone cites such references in the bible to justify such acts, do you conclude Christianity is a violent, hateful religion?

Or do you say, geez what a kook?
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Re: It is legit....
Posted by: gabester
Date: April 17, 2017 01:49PM
Pretty sure that no humanitarian, humanist, democrat, republican, or even authoritarian agrees with the concept of slavery, sexual or otherwise, and still considers themselves to be a good person. Anyone who condones such is not perceived as a good person in the court of public opinion, and they should be condemned by any and all social and legal bodies up to the UN and whatever higher power they may believe in.
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Re: It is legit....
Posted by: pdq
Date: April 17, 2017 02:03PM
Agreed. And yet it's not uncommon that some folks who claim to be Christian have said that maybe slavery was a good thing for blacks (and maybe better than freedom). We don't use comments like that to tar Christianity, even when they cite the bible for support.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/17/2017 02:08PM by pdq.
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Re: It is legit....
Posted by: $tevie
Date: April 17, 2017 02:06PM
The video clip is from September 2014. It is evidently dragged out every year and a half or so to get people's panties in a bunch.



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Re: It is legit....
Posted by: max
Date: April 17, 2017 02:59PM
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pdq
As we all know, the bible is full of incest, polygamy, murder, infanticide, and slavery (just to name a few). If someone cites such references in the bible to justify such acts, do you conclude Christianity is a violent, hateful religion?

Yet neither of you, the apologists for Moslem misogyny, has been able to show any examples where any of the rabbinical theologians of the last century or two, agree with you?
Or you can give us an example when a Pope, or a Catholic theologian from one of the major Catholic schools issued an interpretation in the last 100 or 200 years, the way you see it, it is OK to rape your female war spoils?
Not you pdq, not Ombligo, nor $tevie.
The woman is a professor at one of the most prestigious and oldest Moslem centers of learning and their statements carry a stamp of approval for even the most liberal, humanitarian, humanist, democrat, republican Moslem follows the interpretation.
Or they are not Moslem.
That is how it works, there is no Reform Islam.
That is the difference our pseudo progressives fail to comprehend, so willingly.

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pdq
Or do you say, geez what a kook?
Now you are just insulting a mainstream religion and a prominent female theologian, just because her views differ from yours. The misogyny, xenophobia and an intolerance are appalling.....
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Re: It is legit....
Posted by: pdq
Date: April 17, 2017 03:49PM
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max
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pdq
As we all know, the bible is full of incest, polygamy, murder, infanticide, and slavery (just to name a few). If someone cites such references in the bible to justify such acts, do you conclude Christianity is a violent, hateful religion?

....and their statements carry a stamp of approval for even the most liberal, humanitarian, humanist, democrat, republican Moslem follows the interpretation.

No they don't. That's taking one person's statement, and saying that because she's a professor, that every Muslim believes that. Which is silly.

For what it's worth, until 1976, it was the law in all 50 states (apparently) that raping your wife was okay, and this had long support among people in power in the West. Some people still believe this, like Donald Trump's lawyer. Should we assume that all citizens of the West believe this, and that we all must follow this interpretation?
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Re: It is legit....
Posted by: btfc
Date: April 17, 2017 08:08PM
"....and their statements carry a stamp of approval for even the most liberal, humanitarian, humanist, democrat, republican Moslem follows the interpretation. Or they are not Moslem."


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