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Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: March 13, 2018 06:29PM
Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm
What's your prediction?

Will the special election near Pittsburgh hold a hint at the future? Will a Lamb victory be a psychological view for the Dems? What'll happen if Saconne emerges?
PS-You realize that no matter what, this is only a temporary result and there will be another election in a newly outlined district in November. This may be getting interesting, but it's definitely more involved.



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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: steve...
Date: March 13, 2018 06:41PM
Blue Wave!

Poll: Democrat Lamb leads in Pa. special election

PITTSBURGH — Democrat Conor Lamb heads into the final day of the special congressional election in western Pennsylvania with the lead, according to a new public poll released Monday.

Politico




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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Pam
Date: March 13, 2018 06:44PM
If anyone heard the Republican saying Democrats hate this country and God that should have been enough to vote Dem or not vote.
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: pdq
Date: March 13, 2018 06:49PM
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Pam
If anyone heard the Republican saying Democrats hate this country and God that should have been enough to vote Dem or not vote.

Yeah, that smelt of desperation.

That bible-beaters see Trump as a politician worthy of their support is just bizarre.
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: steve...
Date: March 13, 2018 07:47PM
Live election results: NYTimes




Northern California Coast
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: March 13, 2018 08:01PM
alternate live results at Politico (no paywall)
[www.politico.com]
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: GGD
Date: March 13, 2018 08:25PM
Have they counted the Russian votes yet?
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: March 13, 2018 08:26PM
all 3 million illegal immigrants voted
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: March 13, 2018 09:06PM
98% in - only 500 vote difference

automatic recount is extremely likely



“No persons are more frequently wrong, than those who will not admit they are wrong.”
-- François de La Rochefoucauld

"WE CALL BS!" -- Emma Gonzalez



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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Speedy
Date: March 13, 2018 09:07PM
Saconne just squeaks it out. Pres. Trump's visit was the difference.



Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.



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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Acer
Date: March 13, 2018 09:16PM
The more remote districts later to report are likely stronger for Sacconne. If Lamb doesn't have a clear lead before 95% of the vote is in he's likely to fall short in the end. Well, as long as the busses of brown people were stopped at the PA border, that is.
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: deckeda
Date: March 13, 2018 09:28PM
97.8% reporting

.2% lead for Lamb

what a nail biter


Whoever loses is gonna be pissed a few more people bother to vote.
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: deckeda
Date: March 13, 2018 09:32PM
98.0% reporting

Lamb with .4% lead
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Speedy
Date: March 13, 2018 09:35PM
Recount, anyone...



Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: deckeda
Date: March 13, 2018 09:37PM
Sacccone needs to find 701 more votes than Lamb from the final 12 precincts.
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Speedy
Date: March 13, 2018 09:39PM
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deckeda
Sacccone needs to find 701 more votes than Lamb from the final 12 precincts.

Shouldn't be too difficult as they are conservative precincts.



Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: GGD
Date: March 13, 2018 09:39PM
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deckeda
Sacccone needs to find 701 more votes than Lamb from the final 12 precincts.

Plus the absentee ballots.
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: deckeda
Date: March 13, 2018 09:45PM
Lamb has a 755 lead with 11 precincts left.

OK, so we'll throw this to Saccone ya'll are saying because of mail-ins and conservative districts.
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: gabester
Date: March 13, 2018 09:49PM
What about voter suppression in this district? Are there laws vigorously disenfranchising voters in PA like in other GOP run states like WI, KS, NC, FL et cetera.
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Speedy
Date: March 13, 2018 09:50PM
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GGD
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deckeda
Sacccone needs to find 701 more votes than Lamb from the final 12 precincts.

Plus the absentee ballots.

Acer is right, it looks like it all depends on how many busses got through.



Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: March 13, 2018 09:51PM
Projecting out Westmoreland and Washington Counties (the only two counties still counting) - Saccone will net gain 310 votes. That would leave Lamb winning by 450 votes.

Definite recount coming.



“No persons are more frequently wrong, than those who will not admit they are wrong.”
-- François de La Rochefoucauld

"WE CALL BS!" -- Emma Gonzalez
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: deckeda
Date: March 13, 2018 09:51PM
OK so while you're waiting, my girl's team won their Jr. Pro championship game tonight. Ages 9-12.

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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: deckeda
Date: March 13, 2018 09:51PM
My kid's the snarky-looking one faced this way.
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Speedy
Date: March 13, 2018 09:53PM
Congrats! However, and not being judgmental, that does seem a bit young to be turning pro.

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deckeda
OK so while you're waiting, my girl's team won their Jr. Pro championship game tonight. Ages 9-12.




Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: steve...
Date: March 13, 2018 09:53PM
MSNBC said that state law requires a recount if the vote difference is .5% or less.




Northern California Coast
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: deckeda
Date: March 13, 2018 09:58PM
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Speedy
Congrats! However, and not being judgmental, that does seem a bit young to be turning pro.

Tell that to the snark. It was a fun ride and I'm glad she got to shine. On her regular 5th-6th Grade school team she was second string (JV usually won their separate games) but here she was a star. In the semi final she knocked out a 3-pointer at the buzzer ... I almost threw up.
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: March 13, 2018 09:59PM
99% in - 95 vote difference

Only absentees in Westmoreland to go.



“No persons are more frequently wrong, than those who will not admit they are wrong.”
-- François de La Rochefoucauld

"WE CALL BS!" -- Emma Gonzalez



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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Speedy
Date: March 13, 2018 10:09PM
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deckeda
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Speedy
Congrats! However, and not being judgmental, that does seem a bit young to be turning pro.

Tell that to the snark. It was a fun ride and I'm glad she got to shine. On her regular 5th-6th Grade school team she was second string (JV usually won their separate games) but here she was a star. In the semi final she knocked out a 3-pointer at the buzzer ... I almost threw up.

Great experience! At that age I couldn't even hit the rim from where the three point line is now without throwing overhand. Come to think of it, that probably applies to me today, too.



Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.



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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: sekker
Date: March 13, 2018 10:47PM
Get some sleep. This won't be decided for awhile...
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Speedy
Date: March 13, 2018 10:49PM
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sekker
Get some sleep. This won't be decided for awhile...

And don't forget the House will decide in the end who will be seated.



Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.



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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: March 14, 2018 01:45AM
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Speedy
Date: March 14, 2018 03:46AM
Funny that the Libertarian candidate made this result possible, assuming Lamb pulls this off after write-ins are counted and after the recount.

Great info here:

[mobile.twitter.com]

"(T)he first important thing to know is that this is not a count tonight; it's unofficial and does not include absentee or provisional ballots. The formal count begins Friday, & overseas/military absentees have until next Tues to come in."



Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: deckeda
Date: March 14, 2018 06:27AM
Hmm. NBC is calling it for Lamb. Says there’s no automatic nor state requirement for a recount. Saccone will have to request it under the auspices of saying there’s an error. No mention of absentees.

[www.nbcnews.com]
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: March 14, 2018 07:56AM
NBC may be wrong -- From what I read on the Pennsylvania state website last night there is a recount if margin is under .5% (it is). The provisional ballots are being inspected today. Absentees don't have to be delivered by US Mail until next Tuesday, so final counts are at least a week away.



“No persons are more frequently wrong, than those who will not admit they are wrong.”
-- François de La Rochefoucauld

"WE CALL BS!" -- Emma Gonzalez
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: March 14, 2018 08:29AM
They'll have this all settled in time for the November regular election.
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: GGD
Date: March 14, 2018 09:56AM
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Ombligo
NBC may be wrong -- From what I read on the Pennsylvania state website last night there is a recount if margin is under .5% (it is). The provisional ballots are being inspected today. Absentees don't have to be delivered by US Mail until next Tuesday, so final counts are at least a week away.

The coverage that I was following last night was saying that the state recount law only applied to state-wide elections, and since this was a local election the loser would need to request (and fund) a recount.
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Acer
Date: March 14, 2018 10:13AM
Oh, I'm sure there's money for a recount from either side.
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: vision63
Date: March 14, 2018 10:39AM
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Speedy
Funny that the Libertarian candidate made this result possible, assuming Lamb pulls this off after write-ins are counted and after the recount.

Great info here:

[mobile.twitter.com]

"(T)he first important thing to know is that this is not a count tonight; it's unofficial and does not include absentee or provisional ballots. The formal count begins Friday, & overseas/military absentees have until next Tues to come in."

I beg to differ. This "result" would still be in effect even if Lamb loses. This was supposed to be a extremely easy cake walk.
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: March 14, 2018 01:56PM
Lamb up by 627 votes after the absentee count (btw, I was wrong on my earlier post - absentees had to be in yesterday, not next Tuesday).

Next is the provisional's.

Then the inevitable recount.



“No persons are more frequently wrong, than those who will not admit they are wrong.”
-- François de La Rochefoucauld

"WE CALL BS!" -- Emma Gonzalez
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: $tevie
Date: March 14, 2018 05:38PM
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GGD
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Ombligo
NBC may be wrong -- From what I read on the Pennsylvania state website last night there is a recount if margin is under .5% (it is). The provisional ballots are being inspected today. Absentees don't have to be delivered by US Mail until next Tuesday, so final counts are at least a week away.

The coverage that I was following last night was saying that the state recount law only applied to state-wide elections, and since this was a local election the loser would need to request (and fund) a recount.
That's what I saw, too. Because it's a district election the automatic recount rule doesn't apply.
I'm too lazy to check if the math has already happened, but if the amount of votes for Lamb exceeds the total number of outstanding ballots, then they can call it without waiting.



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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: pdq
Date: March 15, 2018 05:21PM
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Re: Act V scene 1: PA polls close at 8pm (any guesses?)
Posted by: vision63
Date: March 15, 2018 07:25PM
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pdq

That's a good one!
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