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Mass shooting in Australia
Posted by: Speedy
Date: May 12, 2018 10:52AM
Banning gun sales does not work unless you confiscate all guns.

[www.washingtonpost.com]

Authorities in Western Australia responded early Friday morning to a home in Osmington, not far from Perth, where the four children and three adults were found dead from gunshot wounds, according to local news reports.

The shooting has rattled Australia, where lawmakers passed some of the world's most restrictive gun-control laws after a 1996 massacre in Tasmania.

Western Australia police commissioner Chris Dawson said at a news conference that officers responded to the scene about 5:15 a.m. and discovered the seven bodies. Two adults were outside, and five other victims were inside the home in Osmington, a small town nestled in Western Australia's southwest corner.

Police said two firearms were also found at the scene.

Although police said that they are not searching for a suspect, they would not confirm reports that the incident was likely a murder-suicide. Dawson said he could describe it only as a “horrific incident.”



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Re: Mass shooting in Australia
Posted by: Kraniac
Date: May 12, 2018 11:04AM
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Speedy
Banning gun sales does not work unless you confiscate all guns.

Seriously? It absolutely does and this kind of thinking is so rigid and extreme

..there will ALWAYS be exceptions, people will be people and they will find ways to kill, you can make a difference but you cant eliminate everything by making any law

..the record shows that it does make a difference..not only in Australia.
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Re: Mass shooting in Australia
Posted by: graylocks
Date: May 12, 2018 11:38AM
i read in the article that this was Australia's first mass shooting since 1996 and sadly thought that if it were a US story it would probably be it was the first mass shooting in the US since last week...



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Re: Mass shooting in Australia
Posted by: mattkime
Date: May 12, 2018 02:19PM
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Speedy
Banning gun sales does not work unless you confiscate all guns.

because preventing mass shootings isn't worth it if you're only 99% successful.



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Re: Mass shooting in Australia
Posted by: steve...
Date: May 12, 2018 02:47PM
Trumpo will be all over this.




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Re: Mass shooting in Australia
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: May 12, 2018 03:02PM
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mattkime
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Speedy
Banning gun sales does not work unless you confiscate all guns.

because preventing mass shootings isn't worth it if you're only 99% successful.

Mass shootings aside, in 2016 the firearm homicide rate was 4.62/100K in the U.S. vs. 0.18/100K in Australia. That's 25 times higher in the U.S. than in Australia.

Edited to add citation.



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/12/2018 03:04PM by rjmacs.
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Re: Mass shooting in Australia
Posted by: Ammo
Date: May 12, 2018 03:55PM
Methinks Speedy has a very dry sense of humor.



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Re: Mass shooting in Australia
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: May 12, 2018 04:14PM
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graylocks
i read in the article that this was Australia's first mass shooting since 1996 and sadly thought that if it were a US story it would probably be it was the first mass shooting in the US since last week today...


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Re: Mass shooting in Australia
Posted by: Speedy
Date: May 12, 2018 05:10PM
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Ammo
Methinks Speedy has a very dry sense of humor.

I'm actually good with repeal of the 2nd Amendment and confiscation. Obviously the Constitution requires compensation.

There may be a need for long-gun hunting. Our state would be overrun with white-tail deer without a hunting season. Or the wolves would have quite a feast like they did two hundred years ago. But a well regulated malitia could keep the deer in check. Note that the interest in hunting is down amongst the youth in Minnesota.



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Re: Mass shooting in Australia
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: May 12, 2018 07:07PM
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Speedy
There may be a need for long-gun hunting. Our state would be overrun with white-tail deer without a hunting season. Or the wolves would have quite a feast like they did two hundred years ago. But a well regulated malitia could keep the deer in check. Note that the interest in hunting is down amongst the youth in Minnesota.

When an animal population reaches pest level, how often is shooting them with guns the go-to solution?

Just asking.
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Re: Mass shooting in Australia
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: May 12, 2018 08:15PM
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Speedy
There may be a need for long-gun hunting. Our state would be overrun with white-tail deer without a hunting season. Or the wolves would have quite a feast like they did two hundred years ago. But a well regulated malitia could keep the deer in check. Note that the interest in hunting is down amongst the youth in Minnesota.

When an animal population reaches pest level, how often is shooting them with guns the go-to solution?

Just asking.

You don't need hunters for this job anymore.

A lot of places are now controlling deer with birth control. Rangers and Animal Control specialists do it.

Each birth control shot is allegedly good for up to 3 years of infertility.



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Re: Mass shooting in Australia
Posted by: deckeda
Date: May 12, 2018 08:20PM
Australian farmers get guns so that they can put down livestock if necessary. But I imagine an extra vet or two could euthanize a sick horse or whatever.
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Re: Mass shooting in Australia
Posted by: Speedy
Date: May 12, 2018 09:04PM
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DeusxMac
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Speedy
There may be a need for long-gun hunting. Our state would be overrun with white-tail deer without a hunting season. Or the wolves would have quite a feast like they did two hundred years ago. But a well regulated malitia could keep the deer in check. Note that the interest in hunting is down amongst the youth in Minnesota.

When an animal population reaches pest level, how often is shooting them with guns the go-to solution?

Just asking.

In the suburban areas of Minneapolis/St. Paul they will remove deer by hiring professional hunters. I have forgotten what weapon they use to kill the animals.



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/12/2018 09:04PM by Speedy.
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Re: Mass shooting in Australia
Posted by: Kraniac
Date: May 12, 2018 09:32PM
Sorry Speedy, I should have known...no markers there tho..carry on
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Re: Mass shooting in Australia
Posted by: $tevie
Date: May 13, 2018 04:40PM
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graylocks
i read in the article that this was Australia's first mass shooting since 1996 and sadly thought that if it were a US story it would probably be it was the first mass shooting in the US since last week...
Exactly.



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