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The start of separating kids at the border....JOHN KELLY!
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: July 01, 2018 12:57PM
For those who have any doubts about 'good guy' John Kelly.(another vicious Trump stooge)

[apnews.com]
The idea of separating families goes back to the first two months of the Trump presidency. John Kelly, then the Homeland Security secretary, said it could be used as a deterrent. But the notion was quickly dropped, even as President Donald Trump pushed a hard line on immigration, a crucial issue for his political base.

But behind the scenes, senior policy adviser Stephen Miller and others hadn’t given up on the concept. It suddenly reappeared this spring after a persistent spike in illegal crossings. It took the form of the zero-tolerance policy announced by Attorney General Jeff Sessions that requires criminally prosecuting anyone coming to the U.S. illegally. Sessions and others argued families would have to be separated because children can’t go to jail with their parents.

How or whether families would be reunited wasn’t much of a concern to the policymakers, according to administration officials and others with knowledge of the discussions who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. That lack of planning was evident in an interview Kelly, now White House chief of staff, did with NPR in May.

“The children will be taken care of — put into foster care or whatever — but the big point is they (the parents) elected to come illegally to the United States,” he said.


==and remember==

As the crisis worsened, Trump tried to blame Democrats. Sessions quoted the Bible in his defense of the policy. Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen took questions during a tense White House press briefing and said there wasn’t a policy to separate children. She was later heckled at a Mexican restaurant where she was eating dinner.

As criticism became more intense, Trump sought to calm the situation, the officials said. He had initially wanted to sign a full immigration bill as part of an executive order, but was told by attorneys that it wasn’t possible, they said.

So, instead, Trump said he wanted an order written, and written quickly, they said. By midday on June 20, about six weeks after the policy started, Trump had signed papers that stopped separation — but also still required 100 percent criminal prosecution for improper entry.

“We’re going to have strong, very strong borders, but we’re going to keep the families together,” Trump said.
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Re: The start of separating kids at the border....JOHN KELLY!
Posted by: JoeH
Date: July 01, 2018 01:15PM
Not too surprised about Kelly, his reputation as an officer was not too good in a number of areas that would not make him a good civilian leader. What he is, is being one of the better of a bad lot.
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Re: The start of separating kids at the border....JOHN KELLY!
Posted by: bfd
Date: July 01, 2018 01:22PM
^^^

They're all !@#$%holes.
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Re: The start of separating kids at the border....JOHN KELLY!
Posted by: samintx
Date: July 01, 2018 01:45PM
If 45 likes a person that is all that is necessary to judge their character.
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Re: The start of separating kids at the border....JOHN KELLY!
Posted by: bfd
Date: July 01, 2018 02:03PM
Yes, because all of them have been treated very unfairly.
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Re: The start of separating kids at the border....JOHN KELLY!
Posted by: Janit
Date: July 01, 2018 05:00PM
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Steve G.

“The children will be taken care of — put into foster care or whatever — but the big point is they (the parents) elected to come illegally to the United States,” he said.

Typical sexist attitude. Anything considered "women's work" isn't really work, requires no planning or logistics etc. As though all these children could be fed and housed with the wave of a hand, just the way his house cleans itself and his meals cook themselves. Not to mention that children are fungible objects rather than human beings, and there is no need to keep records connecting them to their parents.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/01/2018 08:58PM by Janit.
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Re: The start of separating kids at the border....JOHN KELLY!
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: July 01, 2018 05:11PM
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JoeH
Not too surprised about Kelly, his reputation as an officer was not too good in a number of areas that would not make him a good civilian leader. What he is, is being one of the better of a bad lot.

What kind of military man's first instinct is to take hostages??



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Re: The start of separating kids at the border....JOHN KELLY!
Posted by: Janit
Date: July 01, 2018 09:01PM
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Sarcany
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JoeH
Not too surprised about Kelly, his reputation as an officer was not too good in a number of areas that would not make him a good civilian leader. What he is, is being one of the better of a bad lot.

What kind of military man's first instinct is to take hostages??

I guess we're supposed to be grateful that his impulse was not to gas them.
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Re: The start of separating kids at the border....JOHN KELLY!
Posted by: August West
Date: July 01, 2018 09:31PM
Boom goes the dynamite!



Picasso in his studio after the liberation of Paris, taken by my friend and mentor.

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Re: The start of separating kids at the border....JOHN KELLY!
Posted by: Speedy
Date: July 03, 2018 02:49PM
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Janit
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Sarcany
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JoeH
Not too surprised about Kelly, his reputation as an officer was not too good in a number of areas that would not make him a good civilian leader. What he is, is being one of the better of a bad lot.

What kind of military man's first instinct is to take hostages??

I guess we're supposed to be grateful that his impulse was not to gas them.

Yes, Kelly overruled Stephen Miller on that.



Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.
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