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Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: samintx
Date: July 12, 2018 06:22AM
President Trump wants to update the paint job on the next version of Air Force One, ditching the iconic robin's-egg blue (which he calls a "Jackie Kennedy color") for a bolder, "more American" look.

Trump rarely gets into the weeds of government negotiations. But he sat down in the Oval Office with Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg in February to personally hammer out the $4 billion deal for a pair of replacement 747s for use as Air Force One (the call sign for whatever aircraft the president is on).

Axios has learned that Trump had one specification for the plane that could cause tension with the Air Force and surprise around the world:

Trump wants to change the plane's signature blue-and-white look that goes back 55 years, to a redesign of the presidential aircraft by President John F. Kennedy and First Lady Jackie Kennedy in the early 1960s.

We’re told that Trump wants a color scheme that "looks more American" and isn’t a "Jackie Kennedy color." He doesn’t think the current blue (technically "luminous ultramarine") represents the USA.

The president's preferred design is believed to include red, white and blue.
"He can do it," said a source familiar with the negotiations, when asked about whether Trump can make the change:

But the change could cause friction with the Air Force. We're told some top officers like the current look, which they point out is "known around the world."
Another upgrade: Trump is quite proud of his personal Boeing 757, which he used as his campaign plane:

We're told he wants the presidential bed aboard Air Force One to be larger and more comfortable — more like the executive livery package on his personal plane than the current, couch-like sleeping configuration aboard Air Force One.
Trump may only get to enjoy his dream ride if he's reelected: The new 747s are very unlikely to be in presidential service before Jan. 20, 2021. Two planes still need to be converted from commercial aircraft into flying White Houses.

When I told presidential historian Michael Beschloss about Trump's plans, he replied: "Why would anyone want to discard an Air Force One design that evokes more than a half-century of American history?"

"Every time you see that blue trim and the words 'UNITED STATES OF AMERICA' spelled out in that same typeface as an early version of the Declaration of Independence, it brings back JFK landing in Germany to speak at the Berlin Wall, Richard Nixon flying to China, Ronald Reagan stepping off the plane to see Gorbachev in Iceland and a thousand other scenes of Presidents in our past."

"JFK and Jackie Kennedy approved that timeless design (created pro bono by the premier mid-20th century industrial designer Raymond Loewy) to replace an earlier version of Air Force One that had simply said 'MILITARY AIR TRANSPORT SERVICE' and which made conspicuous use of the color orange, which Kennedy rightfully found 'gaudy.'"

"It was JFK who chose what Loewy called the 'luminous ultramarine blue' that has appeared on every version of Air Force One (and some other Presidential aircraft) from 1962 on."

"Anyone who doubts how strongly Americans feel about the way Air Force One looks should go to the Reagan Library in California and see how many people go there to look at the plane that Ronald Reagan flew on while he was President."
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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: July 12, 2018 06:45AM
Perhaps something in a nice gold leaf-and-semi-precious-gems motif?
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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: July 12, 2018 07:18AM
.....according to Stormy and that PB model.....he loves jobs........bjobs and hjobs......



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/12/2018 07:19AM by NewtonMP2100.
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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: mstudio
Date: July 12, 2018 08:01AM
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samintx
and which made conspicuous use of the color orange, which Kennedy rightfully found 'gaudy

He's pissed that they did away with the color and he loves gaudy.
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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: $tevie
Date: July 12, 2018 09:37AM
All of Trump’s taste is in his mouth.



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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: Acer
Date: July 12, 2018 10:15AM
Wait, wasn't there some bruhaha awhile back about expensive Air Force One replacements?

[Googling. . . . ]

...found it. Quelle surprise:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Boeing is building a brand new 747 Air Force One for future presidents, but costs are out of control, more than $4 billion. Cancel order!
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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: July 12, 2018 10:34AM
Gold leaf the plane with a pinup caressing the dotard?



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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: July 12, 2018 11:01AM
He wants a red,white, and blue color scheme - let him fly American Airlines, coach class.



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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: GGD
Date: July 12, 2018 11:18AM
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Ombligo
He wants a red,white, and blue color scheme - let him fly American Airlines, coach class.

It looked good on the Shuttle's 747 transport plane (which was originally built for AA).

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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: JoeH
Date: July 12, 2018 12:54PM
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$tevie
All of Trump’s taste is in his mouth.

From reports on some of his food preferences, not present there either.
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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: July 12, 2018 01:04PM
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$tevie
All of Trump’s taste is in his mouth.
Move to the back and about 2 1/2 feet down.
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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: bfd
Date: July 12, 2018 01:42PM
Paint it Orange. Any ugly orange shade should do.
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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: Thrift Store Scott
Date: July 12, 2018 02:18PM
For once, Trump and I agree on something: The current robin's egg blue, excuse me, "luminous ultramarine" color scheme is dated and should have been replaced when Air Force One went from 707s to 747s under Reagan.

I have my doubts as to Trump being able to select a tasteful replacement, however.

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GGD
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Ombligo
He wants a red,white, and blue color scheme - let him fly American Airlines, coach class.

It looked good on the Shuttle's 747 transport plane (which was originally built for AA).


AA's classic livery was indeed "classic" and distinctly American, but it has since been replaced with a far, FAR gaudier version-



I expect the new Trump livery to be similar.



Lie to me if you must, but don't lie to me and insult my intelligence in the same sentence.
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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: hal
Date: July 12, 2018 02:27PM
I always liked the PSA dopey smile:

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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 12, 2018 02:51PM
The first airplane designated only for the president's use was for FDR, and it was called "Sacred Cow."

"Sacred Bull" for Trump's version?

I love that blue color and especially the symbolic font used for United States of America. I hope they leave it alone but whatever.
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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: Yoyodyne ArtWorks
Date: July 12, 2018 02:51PM
Trump wants it flesh tone, for obvious reasons.



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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: GGD
Date: July 12, 2018 06:51PM
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Thrift Store Scott
AA's classic livery was indeed "classic" and distinctly American, but it has since been replaced with a far, FAR gaudier version-

AA was forced into a redesign as they updated their fleet and newer planes used composites instead of aluminum in their fuselages.
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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: Thrift Store Scott
Date: July 13, 2018 03:34AM
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GGD
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Thrift Store Scott
AA's classic livery was indeed "classic" and distinctly American, but it has since been replaced with a far, FAR gaudier version-

AA was forced into a redesign as they updated their fleet and newer planes used composites instead of aluminum in their fuselages.

True, between adding to the fleet 787s which have an all-composite fuselage and Airbuses (Airbii?) whose aluminum fuselages are not formulated to be left in a polished, uncoated state, AA had no other choice in the matter. That being said, I think they could have come up with a somewhat more subtle and attractive livery, and I fully expect whatever new AF1 livery Trump selects to be equally if not more "in your face".



Lie to me if you must, but don't lie to me and insult my intelligence in the same sentence.
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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: July 13, 2018 11:39AM
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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: $tevie
Date: July 13, 2018 01:24PM
I think it is stupid for Trump to worry about the plane color when there is so much going on in the world which is serious and very real and worth the government looking into.

The plane looks fine. It's a fricken plane and it's not going to a prom or a beauty pageant.







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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: Thrift Store Scott
Date: July 13, 2018 08:34PM
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$tevie
I think it is stupid for Trump to worry about the plane color when there is so much going on in the world which is serious and very real and worth the government looking into.

True, but Trump seemingly loves nothing better than the old political ploy of "throwing a dead cat on the table", i.e. bringing up a highly emotional and divisive but ultimately meaningless point to distract attention away from far more serious issues at hand.

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$tevie
The plane looks fine. It's a fricken plane and it's not going to a prom or a beauty pageant.
True on all counts, but the next AF1 will probably have to have a new livery to take advantage of advances made in radar-absorbing paint since the current planes entered the fleet, specifically the elimination of the polished bare metal areas just ahead of and behind the wing.

Basically, I'm expecting something along the lines of this tag but scaled up to 747 proportions-





Lie to me if you must, but don't lie to me and insult my intelligence in the same sentence.
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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: vision63
Date: July 13, 2018 10:48PM
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hal
I always liked the PSA dopey smile:


I LOVED PSA!
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Re: Trump wants a new Air Force One paint job !
Posted by: TheCaber
Date: July 14, 2018 08:22AM
Yeah, the Alabama registration plate paint scheme, with 370H55V writ large on the underside of the fuselage, for the ultimate redundancy.



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