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Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: September 25, 2018 01:14PM
.....just announced.....details will follow........

....details are out....


Bill Cosby Going To Prison For More Than 3 Years For 2004 Rape

.....Just less than two hours after being designated a sexually violent predator, Bill Cosby has been sentenced to 3 to 10 years in prison by a Pennsylvania judge after being convicted for the 2004 rape of former Temple University employee Andrea Constand.

Cosby will serve “no less than three years and no more than 10 years,” Judge Steven O’Neill said Tuesday, adding that the actor will pay a fine and court costs as well.

The ruling comes nearly three years after the much accused actor once known as “America’s Dad” was arrested and charged with three counts of aggravated indecent assault against Constand. With Cosby sitting in the Norristown, PA courthouse, Tuesday’s long-expected decision comes six months after a jury found the actor guilty of all three counts in a retrial.

“No one is above the law,” O’Neil said from the bench to Cosby, who was seated just in front of him in the Montgomery County courtroom. He added that it’s no matter their “wealth, fame, celebrity or even philanthropy” — a clear dig at the latter element Cosby’s lawyers frequently brought up regarding their client’s character.

Proclaiming he felt feel a duty to “the public, the Commonwealth and the defendant,” O’Neill said there would be “no probation, no limited confinement” such as home arrest. “I am compelled to consider the guidelines,” O’Neill told the court of the prison time, which is up to four years under legislative rules in the law.

“This is a court of law and I plan to sentence you under the law,” O’Neill said.

Attorneys for Cosby are expected to quickly file an appeal, but their client will have to cool his heels in prison while that case moves up to the state Supreme Court. His prison time will start immediately in a state facility; he had been under house arrest and out on $1 million bail.

Reading poetry of a great fall and noting “who he is and who he was,” O’Neill also told Cosby while reading his sentence that he will have to participate in sex offenders treatment while behind bars.

More than 60 women have come forward in the past few years with accounts of Cosby drugging and assaulting them, but the Pennsylvania action was the only criminal case in the country due to the Keystone State’s longer-than-usual statute of limitations for sex crimes. Constand and several other alleged victims were in the jam-packed courtroom this afternoon.

Cosby is the first major conviction of the #MeToo and Time’s Up era that has seen the likes of Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, ex-CBS boss Les Moonves and others investigated, dethroned and, in the case of Weinstein, charged with crimes in the past year.

Having gone through a battalion of defense lawyers since being charged, Cosby sat in court yesterday and today as his current team tried to convince O’Neill to spare the 81-year-old prison time based on his age and health. But with more than 80 inmates older than Cosby in Pennsylvania’s prison system, and a recently opened $400 million facility for seniors with health issues like the actor, the argument never gained traction with either the judge or the D.A.

“You were old then,” the judge said while reading the sentence today, decimating the belief that Cosby is too old and sick for prison.

The guilty verdict at the April retrial held a combined sentence of up to 30 years, but on Monday the Montgomery County D.A. and the defense agreed to collapse the three counts into one with a 10-year maximum sentence. In recently filed paperwork and in closing arguments, D.A. Kevin Steele advocated for a sentence close to a decade plus fines and court costs. However, O’Neill indicated Monday he was looking at a sentence closer to the state guidelines of 22-36 months.

Surrounded by his legal team, including an already hired appeal lawyer, Cosby was in apparently intense conversation with the attorneys before the final stage of the sentencing hearing began Tuesday. Unlike when he became a convicted felon this spring, he did not verbally lash out at the prosecution with shouts of “a**hole.”

Today’s earlier ruling labeling Cosby a sexually violent predator means he must register as a sex offender for the rest of his life and check in with state police monthly. With the prison time, Cosby will also be required to attend counseling and provide details of any change in residence once he is released.

As sources told Deadline today, the Cosby will be handcuffed in the courtroom and led out by Montgomery County Sheriff’s Department deputies. He will then be taken to the lower part of the courthouse to complete paperwork before being transported to a nearby state prison.

Even as Cosby has admitted in depositions in a civil suit more than 10 years ago to giving Constand several Benadryl pills on the night of the alleged assault in his Philadelphia-area mansion in 2004, Cosby has unsuccessfully insisted through various investigations and two trials that the encounter with the ex-Temple University employee was consensual.



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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: $tevie
Date: September 25, 2018 01:20PM
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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: September 25, 2018 01:33PM
Prison - particularly state prison - is a hard place for anyone, especially the elderly and disabled. I hate our criminal 'justice' and corrections systems - they are not designed to provide justice nor foster correction. Part of me is offended whenever this system is assigned another person; there's rarely any joy in it.

Bill Cosby knew all of this about the criminal justice and corrections systems, too, though, when he drugged and raped his victims. He should have known, at the very least, that he might end up behind bars for what he did. The bed is one we should all be dissatisfied with, but Cosby made up his own.

I truly hope he is an example to others.



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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: $tevie
Date: September 25, 2018 01:43PM
I couldn't care less how badly he fares in prison. It's too late to reform the bastard, so let him suffer for years the way his victims have.



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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: September 25, 2018 02:32PM
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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: hal
Date: September 25, 2018 02:35PM
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$tevie
I couldn't care less how badly he fares in prison. It's too late to reform the bastard, so let him suffer for years the way his victims have.

hell yes!

Yes, the world is full of sad injustices... this isn't one of them!
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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: September 25, 2018 02:39PM
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... our criminal 'justice' and corrections systems - they are not designed to provide justice nor foster correction.

In Cosby's case, I believe we might agree that he's likely too old for "correction", but then what would be the appropriate sentencing for him for "justice" to be served in your opinion?
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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: September 25, 2018 02:48PM
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... our criminal 'justice' and corrections systems - they are not designed to provide justice nor foster correction.

In Cosby's case, I believe we might agree that he's likely too old for "correction", but then what would be the appropriate sentencing for him for "justice" to be served in your opinion?

It would not be found in our system, and I would not presume to deliver a fully functioning system of justice and reform to you, pre-made, for your community.

Edit: that being said, it would definitely allow the victims of the convicted to be much more involved in the decisions about what is needed to make things right, or closer to right, and would prioritize wholeness and healing in the community over retributive suffering.



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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: September 25, 2018 03:07PM
One only hopes that he finds a way to make his prison stay useful for others. There are a lot of prisoners who look for education as a way to get out of the circle of despair. I loved his humor growing up. I'm saddened that he turned out to be a predator, and pleased that his predation is at least brought to a close with some justice for the number of women he molested and raped.
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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: September 25, 2018 03:18PM
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It would not be found in our system, and I would not presume to deliver a fully functioning system of justice and reform to you, pre-made, for your community.

I was specifically interested in what would be YOUR appropriate sentencing for Cosby, not for a "fully functioning system" nor for what my "community" might deem appropriate.

If you ran the zoo, what would be your sentencing for him?
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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: September 25, 2018 03:27PM
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It would not be found in our system, and I would not presume to deliver a fully functioning system of justice and reform to you, pre-made, for your community.

I was specifically interested in what would be YOUR appropriate sentencing for Cosby, not for a "fully functioning system" nor for what my "community" might deem appropriate.

If you ran the zoo, what would be your sentencing for him?

And I was specifically indicating that those kinds of discussions and decisions make no sense in the context of one individual's opinions. My whole point is that the community needs to be involved, and the victims need to be involved, because crime damages these in addition to threatening the authority of the state.

Are you asking for a laundry list of my personal priorities? I can share what principles or values I think are important in community (e.g., healing from damage and trauma, constructive reparations, order and opportunity), but I wouldn't suggest that I could design a system - that's kind of my point.



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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: September 25, 2018 03:42PM
Worth a few hundred million bucks, bail of a measly $1 million, why bother to stick around for trial & sentencing?

He could have died in a house on some beautiful tropical beach, rather than (likely) state prison.



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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: bfd
Date: September 25, 2018 03:44PM
Hope he meets Fat Albert while he's serving his sentence. It'd be just desserts

Can't feel one microgram of remorse for the predator. If anyone ever needed punishment for his crimes, it's this character. Don't care about the age. He should've been prosecuted many years ago. These weren't simple mistakes in judgment, they were calculated, predatory moves that wrecked many lives.

We never really knew who this character really was - and now that we do, it pretty much makes any and all of his so-called 'contributions' meaningless - it was literally all an act.

Bon Voyage, ya creep!
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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: billb
Date: September 25, 2018 04:13PM





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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: September 25, 2018 04:20PM
Montgomery County District Attorney Kevin Steele said Cosby could be sent to Laurel Highlands, a state prison for lower-risk inmates on the other side of the state, about 70 miles southeast of Pittsburgh. It serves inmates with special needs and has separate housing units for geriatric prisoners and programs for sex offenders.
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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: bfd
Date: September 25, 2018 04:20PM
Spent all morning on that, didja Bill?





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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: September 25, 2018 04:21PM
Sure, Bill. Maybe Kavanaugh will reverse Cosby's verdict.
BTW How come you aren't in the 'World Laughs At Trump' thread?
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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: September 25, 2018 05:00PM
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It would not be found in our system, and I would not presume to deliver a fully functioning system of justice and reform to you, pre-made, for your community.

I was specifically interested in what would be YOUR appropriate sentencing for Cosby, not for a "fully functioning system" nor for what my "community" might deem appropriate.

If you ran the zoo, what would be your sentencing for him?

And I was specifically indicating that those kinds of discussions and decisions make no sense in the context of one individual's opinions. My whole point is that the community needs to be involved, and the victims need to be involved, because crime damages these in addition to threatening the authority of the state.

1. "The community" - Isn't a court system the form by which the collective representation of the "community" is manifested? If not, what would be?

2. Aren't individual opinions what makes up the community's "involvement"; how their decisions are arrived at? If not, how does the community involve itself; how is the collective opinion determined?

3. Given Cosby has already been convicted, only his sentencing remains. In that collection of the community's opinions, what would yours be as to what an appropriate sentence for Cosby? That seems like a simple, straightforward and reasonable question.

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Are you asking for a laundry list of my personal priorities? I can share what principles or values I think are important in community (e.g., healing from damage and trauma, constructive reparations, order and opportunity), but I wouldn't suggest that I could design a system - that's kind of my point.

You keep deflecting this to a discussion of the overall penal "system". I've not asked about the system. This is just a discussion of the Cosby sentencing.
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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: September 25, 2018 05:08PM
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OTOH the others are still stuck at five minutes after election....

of 1992

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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: September 25, 2018 07:27PM
LOL Deusx.....ftw smiley
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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 25, 2018 10:23PM
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Bill in NC
Worth a few hundred million bucks, bail of a measly $1 million, why bother to stick around for trial & sentencing?

He could have died in a house on some beautiful tropical beach

With all the finest hookers and booze. But that would be for a normal guy (like me). Cosby is a cold calculating predator who wanted to prey on these victims.



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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: Rolando
Date: September 25, 2018 10:57PM
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Bill in NC
Worth a few hundred million bucks, bail of a measly $1 million, why bother to stick around for trial & sentencing?

He could have died in a house on some beautiful tropical beach, rather than (likely) state prison.

So he had the ability to escape justice, but didn't? I'm not sure what you're getting at here.



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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: September 26, 2018 06:32AM
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Bill in NC
Worth a few hundred million bucks, bail of a measly $1 million, why bother to stick around for trial & sentencing?

He could have died in a house on some beautiful tropical beach, rather than (likely) state prison.

So he had the ability to escape justice, but didn't? I'm not sure what you're getting at here.

Don't worry...these guys are so arrogant they always think they won't get caught...or if caught, think they will somehow still avoid punishment.
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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: Acer
Date: September 26, 2018 07:57AM
Trump might pardon him, since his victims didn't report to the FBI within x hours.
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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: September 26, 2018 08:19AM
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And I was specifically indicating that those kinds of discussions and decisions make no sense in the context of one individual's opinions. My whole point is that the community needs to be involved, and the victims need to be involved, because crime damages these in addition to threatening the authority of the state.

1. "The community" - Isn't a court system the form by which the collective representation of the "community" is manifested? If not, what would be?

2. Aren't individual opinions what makes up the community's "involvement"; how their decisions are arrived at? If not, how does the community involve itself; how is the collective opinion determined?

3. Given Cosby has already been convicted, only his sentencing remains. In that collection of the community's opinions, what would yours be as to what an appropriate sentence for Cosby? That seems like a simple, straightforward and reasonable question.

1. No - the police system is the accreted institutional existence of a form of social control that has its roots in slave-catching and suppressing civil unrest. The court system is the legacy of Church canon law courts and pre-Democratic English law, and carries with it lots of things that are undemocratic and wholly disconnected from the community and its values. What would a different system look like? I don't need to tell you that not everyone administers justice the way we do; there are options.

2. Individuals sharing and discussing their values, priorities, and opinions in community with others is how collective opinion and will can be arrived at. It's not just an additive process of everyone throwing their opinions into a pot and mixing them up to get a 'consensus soup.' This seems to be a real stumbling point in our discussion, and I'm not sure why.

3. I don't think that any of my ideas or suggestions could practicably be applied to current cases, including Cosby's. If I somehow gave the impression that I think that this specific case could have been handled differently and the outcome guided by a different community consensus, I apologize. No changes to the system could have been achieved in time for this moment. The current case was intended only to be used to illustrate weaknesses in the current system.

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Are you asking for a laundry list of my personal priorities? I can share what principles or values I think are important in community (e.g., healing from damage and trauma, constructive reparations, order and opportunity), but I wouldn't suggest that I could design a system - that's kind of my point.

You keep deflecting this to a discussion of the overall penal "system". I've not asked about the system. This is just a discussion of the Cosby sentencing.

Okay. Thanks for defining the scope of the discussion for us.



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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: September 26, 2018 10:19AM
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OTOH the others are still stuck at five minutes after election....

of 1992

It's difficult when you have a limited pool of whataboutism to defend the almost daily republican defenses and commissions of sexual assault, treason, etc.
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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: September 26, 2018 12:04PM
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You keep deflecting this to a discussion of the overall penal "system". I've not asked about the system. This is just a discussion of the Cosby sentencing.

Okay. Thanks for defining the scope of the discussion for us.

"Us"??

Please review the title of the OP, the linked article in the OP, and every response other than yours (excluding the two trump/clinton crook images).
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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: $tevie
Date: September 26, 2018 02:05PM
This thread is about a despicable man who has met the fate he deserved. Whether or not the entire prison system works or not is a tangent and far too complicated to be pasted onto a thread about Cosby. It makes it sound like rjmacs is unwilling to understand how loathsome Cosby is and is using the case as some kind of cold-ass objective launch pad for a pet peeve.



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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: October 04, 2018 12:31PM
Sorry I ruined y'alls Cosbgasm?



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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: October 04, 2018 01:41PM
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Sorry I ruined y'alls Cosbgasm?

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Re: Bill Cosby sentenced to 3-10 years in prison.....
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: October 04, 2018 02:44PM
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Sorry I ruined y'alls Cosbgasm?

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