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Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: January 10, 2019 08:06AM
If there's a steel wall...

Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

saw-loser
[www.nbcnews.com]
President Donald Trump has repeatedly advocated for a steel slat design for his border wall, which he described as "absolutely critical to border security" in his Oval Office address to the nation Tuesday. But Department of Homeland Security testing of a steel slat prototype proved it could be cut through with a saw, according to a report by DHS.

A photo exclusively obtained by NBC News shows the results of the test after military and Border Patrol experts were instructed to attempt to destroy the barriers with common tools.

The Trump administration directed the construction of eight steel and concrete prototype walls that were built in Otay Mesa, California, just across the border from Tijuana, Mexico. Trump inspected the prototypes in March 2018. He has now settled on a steel slat, or steel bollard, design for the proposed border barrier additions. Steel bollard fencing has been used under previous administrations.

However, testing by DHS in late 2017 showed all eight prototypes, including the steel slats, were vulnerable to breaching, according to an internal February 2018 U.S. Customs and Border Protection report.

Photos of the breaches were not included in a redacted version of the CBP report, which was first obtained in a Freedom of Information Act Request by San Diego public radio station KPBS.

The photo of testing results obtained by NBC News was taken at the testing location along the California-Mexico border, known as "Pogo Row."

NBC News toured the eight wall prototypes twice before President Trump's March 2018 inspection. According to San Diego Sector Border Patrol Chief Rodney Scott, the versions seen by NBC News and the president, however, were larger than the actual prototypes tested at "Pogo Row."
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Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through
Posted by: DevoBill
Date: January 10, 2019 08:26AM
That's torch cut. AND what were you thinking, the steel would be AR500?




I want ambiguity, or possibly something else.
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Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through
Posted by: pdq
Date: January 10, 2019 08:45AM
Molly Ivins used to say something about 16 foot walls and 17 foot ladders...
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Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through
Posted by: beagledave
Date: January 10, 2019 09:09AM
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DevoBill
That's torch cut. AND what were you thinking, the steel would be AR500?

Nope.
...were instructed to attempt to destroy the barriers with common tools.
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Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through
Posted by: max
Date: January 10, 2019 10:54AM
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beagledave
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DevoBill
That's torch cut. AND what were you thinking, the steel would be AR500?

Nope.
...were instructed to attempt to destroy the barriers with common tools.

Nope, Bill's comment was addressing the OP picture showing a torch cut, an uncommon tool....




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"We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end.
One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution;
one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship."
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Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: January 10, 2019 11:32AM
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DevoBill
That's torch cut. AND what were you thinking, the steel would be AR500?

"Border Patrol experts were instructed to attempt to destroy the barriers with common tools."

They didn't specify common "household" tools. Cutting torches are far from uncommon (and low-end not all that expensive).
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Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through
Posted by: GGD
Date: January 10, 2019 01:04PM
I've been wondering about the spacing of those steel bars. Maybe one could clamp some steps onto them to turn the wall into a ladder.

If there's enough room for a shoe to fit between bars, maybe clamp onto adjacent bars and make ladder rungs which can easily be used on both sides of the wall.
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Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: January 10, 2019 01:24PM
Here is an image of an alien using an uncommon tool to cut through a wall:

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Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through
Posted by: Acer
Date: January 10, 2019 01:42PM
Cutting torch is what, a torch, a cylinder of gas and a spark? How big a cylinder would you need to cut a man-sized hole? Could you carry it on your back? A mother who just walked from Honduras might not have those resources, but some local making bank to guide immigrants could be troubled to bring the equipment.

Scale is uncertain, but as it looks with that spacing just cutting one 24" chunk from one of those verticals would be enough to put a person through.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/10/2019 01:47PM by Acer.
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Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: January 10, 2019 01:55PM
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Acer
A mother who just walked from Honduras might not have those resources

The meek female/child asylum seeker is a fake construct created by the LIEberal left.

What Trump and every True Patriot(TM) knows is that the border is being overrun, as we speak, with heavily armed, muscular ISIS men from MS-13-queda. Each one is carrying their body weight in C4 to blow through any wall they encounter.

So we need a wall.

Otherwise they just wasted a trip to the border.

Edit: Tatriot?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/10/2019 02:53PM by Lux Interior.
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Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: January 10, 2019 01:55PM
I'm pretty sure the heroin smugglers have the wherewithal to cut through the metal.
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Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: January 10, 2019 02:01PM
That's why we need Operation Freedom Freedom with 150,000 heavily armed troops at the border in perpetuity.
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Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through
Posted by: max
Date: January 10, 2019 03:43PM
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DevoBill
That's torch cut. AND what were you thinking, the steel would be AR500?

And the Trump Derangement Syndeome prevarications begin...
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DeusxMac
They didn't specify common "household" tools. Cutting torches are far from uncommon (and low-end not all that [www.amazon.com] Mophorn-Professional .

Your own link, DeusxMac, "Mophorn Professional".

Sheesh, what a tool...




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"We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end.
One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution;
one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship."
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Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: January 10, 2019 04:34PM
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max
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DevoBill
That's torch cut. AND what were you thinking, the steel would be AR500?

And the Trump Derangement Syndeome prevarications begin...
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DeusxMac
They didn't specify common "household" tools. Cutting torches are far from uncommon (and low-end not all that [www.amazon.com] Mophorn-Professional .

Your own link, DeusxMac, "Mophorn Professional".

Sheesh, what a tool...

Right maxie, the fact that it's been labeled "professional" is really germane to these issues. smiley-signs006

Guess in your world if they throw in "professional", it can only be sold to licensed professionals; and surely that the $194.99 price ensures that only the biggest, most wealthy organizations can afford it; making units like it very uncommon. RollingEyesSmiley5

How about this one? It doesn't include the word "professional", and yet it costs more ($327.95). What can that possibly mean?

Talk about "derangement"; physician heal thyself!
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Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through
Posted by: hal
Date: January 10, 2019 05:19PM
My college roommate had welding tanks and a cutting torch - he owned them since he was in high school. VERY handy roommate to have around!
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Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: January 10, 2019 06:55PM
I don't think the people coming over will be following Max's ridiculous arbitrary rules.
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Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through
Posted by: Speedy
Date: January 10, 2019 09:09PM
Love my cutting torch! If you are good with one, each of those cuts could be done in under a minute.



Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.
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Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: January 11, 2019 12:41PM
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DeusxMac

Guess in your world if they throw in "professional", it can only be sold to licensed professionals; and surely that the $194.99 price ensures that only the biggest, most wealthy organizations can afford it; making units like it very uncommon.

I tried to buy a GMC pickup last year.

The salesman said, "You know that these are Professional Grade right?"

I said that I knew, but I thought it was just marketing B.S., like "Yeah, it's got a Hemi."

He told me that it was no joke and that I needed to have a professional pickup truck license if I wanted to buy one!

Learn something fake new every day!
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