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'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: btfc
Date: January 12, 2019 02:10AM
' "We were fighting for religious freedom - a founding principle of our nation. And today, we have come out victorious," he declared.
In addition to serving as the Republican vice chairman of Tarrant County - the third largest county in Texas - Dr Shafi is a surgeon and Southlake City Councilman who immigrated to the US nearly 30 years ago.
He reportedly is originally from India, and became a US citizen in 2009.
After he was appointed by party officials to his post in July 2018, several of his colleagues took issue with his religion and claimed he had connections with terrorist organisations.

Grand Prairie precinct chairwoman Dorrie O'Brien, who led the effort to oust him, recently reiterated her views in a Facebook post.
"We don't think he's suitable as a practising Muslim to be vice chair because he'd be the representative for ALL Republicans in Tarrant County, and not ALL Republicans in Tarrant County think Islam is safe or acceptable," Mrs O'Brien wrote on 31 December 2018.
"There are big questions surrounding exactly where Dr Shafi's loyalties lie, vis a vis Democrat and Republican policies."
She also previously slammed her Republican colleagues for not intervening in what she called a "stealth jihad" and "Leftist/Shari'a Zuckerberg-ization of Tarrant County". '

[www.bbc.com]
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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: January 12, 2019 04:59AM
Maybe they should oust Dorrie O'Brien for bringing divisiveness and public ridicule to the party...

(Reality, they'll likely promote her to a national office)



“No persons are more frequently wrong, than those who will not admit they are wrong.”
-- François de La Rochefoucauld

"WE CALL BS!" -- Emma Gonzalez
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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: samintx
Date: January 12, 2019 09:12AM
I saw this on my local news and could not believe it. Glad the Republ. bigots didn't win. Where is religious freedom? How can they live with themselves?
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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: Mr Downtown
Date: January 12, 2019 09:40AM
In Texas, religious freedom means you can be either a Southern Baptist or a Methodist.

The Texas Constitution states: "No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being." Um, kind of a big test there.
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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: max
Date: January 12, 2019 10:29AM
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Mr Downtown
In Texas, religious freedom means you can be either a Southern Baptist or a Methodist.

Yep, when Mormon fundies showed up, the state took their kids away.
[www.independent.ie]
But it is OK, they are fundamentalists, they don't deserve to live...
[www.cbsnews.com]
We have quite a history of the practice...
[www.anusha.com]

Then again, they are Albanians, they deserve it...




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"We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end.
One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution;
one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship."
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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: deckeda
Date: January 12, 2019 11:47AM
Hmm, O'Brien ... you know, you can't trust a scot at all.

What an odd place for Shafi to be, so closely associated with the very party laser-focused today on the opposite of what he clams he was fighting for. Delicious irony, that.
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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: January 12, 2019 01:40PM
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Mr Downtown
provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being."

No problemo.

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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: January 12, 2019 02:03PM
It's both striking and telling whom you choose to defend maxie.

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max
Yep, when Mormon fundies showed up, the state took their kids away.
[www.independent.ie]
But it is OK, they are fundamentalists, they don't deserve to live...

Warren Jeffs
"Jeffs was extradited to Texas, where he was found guilty of sexual assault and aggravated sexual assault of 12- and 15-year-old girls, for which he was sentenced to life in prison plus 20 years..."


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max
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-really-happened-at-waco/
We have quite a history of the practice...

David Koresh
"When Koresh was 22 years old, he had an illegal sexual relationship with a 15-year-old girl who became pregnant."
"...he approached the pastor and told him that God wanted him to have his daughter for a wife."
"...Koresh traveled to Israel where he claimed he had a vision that he was the modern day Cyrus."
".. by 1991 he was convinced that his martyrdom would be in the United States."


"It all started...with a February 1993 raid by more than 70 agents from the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms. David Koresh and his followers, the Branch Davidians, were known to have a large cache of high-powered weapons. The ATF also suspected that the group had explosives and the parts to manufacture machine guns illegally. When it arrived to search the compound, shooting started almost immediately.

Afterward, four ATF agents and six Branch Davidians were dead. The Federal Bureau of Investigation moved in, and a lengthy standoff ensued. For more than seven frustrating weeks, the FBI tried to persuade the Davidians to come out."
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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: January 12, 2019 03:58PM
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Mr Downtown
In Texas, religious freedom means you can be either a Southern Baptist or a Methodist.
.

Yep.

White Christian Supremacy: major cultural virus, at the core of many of our biggest societal problems including Individual 1.

Case in point: Dr. Mark Green, newly elected Republican Congressman from Tennessee. Has the seat Marsha Blackburn vacated when she ran for Senate. He's a physician and a decorated veteran; apparently a smart man. Bigoted as all HELL. Trump nominated him to some Pentagon position and he had to withdraw over bigoted comments. Wants to investigate the CDC for hiding evidence that vaccines cause autism. Believes that the right to own firearms doesn't come from the Constitution but directly from God. Pushed for laws banning transgender people from public restrooms, says psychiatrists are sure that's a disease. Wants to outlaw abortion, of course.

How do otherwise rational, well-educated people fall into these thinking traps?

Because they were raised with hateful, small-minded ideology that told them the way to feel superior to everyone else is to thump the Bible as hard as you can. And this is a cultural identity much more than a set of moral beliefs; that's the thing that makes it possible to support a person like Donald Trump and still call yourself "Christian." He wants what you want. That's enough.
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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: Mr Downtown
Date: January 12, 2019 04:39PM
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Lemon Drop
White Christian Supremacy: major cultural virus, at the core of many of our biggest societal problems including Individual 1.

Um, please explain how Individual 1, so utterly clueless about Christianity that he doesn't even know how to say "Second Corinthians," exemplifies the religion.
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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: January 12, 2019 05:17PM
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Mr Downtown
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Lemon Drop
White Christian Supremacy: major cultural virus, at the core of many of our biggest societal problems including Individual 1.

Um, please explain how Individual 1, so utterly clueless about Christianity that he doesn't even know how to say "Second Corinthians," exemplifies the religion.

He doesn't "exemplify" any religion. White Christian Supremacists are the reason he's in office and remain among his most ardent supporters. Individual 1 latched onto a set of "beliefs" to attract and keep this crowd.
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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: max
Date: January 12, 2019 06:36PM
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Mr Downtown
In Texas, religious freedom means you can be either a Southern Baptist or a Methodist.

And i agreed with Mr.Downtown:
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max
Yep, when Mormon fundies showed up, the state took their kids away.
[www.independent.ie]
[www.cbsnews.com]
We have quite a history of the practice...
[www.anusha.com]


Yet, out illiterate troll, in his newest acute attack of max obsession, quite hypocritically at that, decided to disagree with it, supporting any Baptist or Methodist taking kids by force, away from the heretics, or killing them all, let the Lord sort out his own....

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DeusxMac
It's both striking and telling whom you choose to defend maxie.

Why DeusxMac, how did you draw this brilliant insight of yours, in fact I was in a full agreement with you...

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max
But it is OK, they are fundamentalists, they don't deserve to live...

...and obviously, according to DeusxMac as well, they cannot be permitted to have any kids either, as one of them might become a victim of their own priest or preacher....

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DeusxMac
Burn them at the stake!!!
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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: max
Date: January 12, 2019 07:01PM
It's both striking and telling whom you choose to defend DeusxMac, fascism at its best.
But while we are at it, lets look at your self illustrated religious hate and hypocrisy:


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DeusxMac
Warren Jeffs
"Jeffs was extradited to Texas, where he was found guilty of sexual assault and aggravated sexual assault of 12- and 15-year-old girls, for which he was sentenced to life in prison plus 20 years..."

"Those 400 kids needed to be wrenched from their heretic parents."

David Koresh
"When Koresh was 22 years old, he had an illegal sexual relationship with a 15-year-old girl who became pregnant."
"...he approached the pastor and told him that God wanted him to have his daughter for a wife."

[en.wikipedia.org]
So according to, DeusxMac, with your logic, with over 4300 rapist priests in this country alone, we would be quite justified to either grab every single Catholic child from their parents, or as it seems to be your personal preference, have the FBI surround every single Catholic church and cathedral during their Sunday mass and burn the SOBs?


What is your preferred accelerant you would recommend to satisfy your need for charred kid bodies?...




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end.
One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution;
one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship."
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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: January 12, 2019 07:19PM
You know, when you outright support terrorists on this forum max, and then play the card where you label those who criticize your 'heros' as the fascists/terrorist supporters....little wonder the majority of the forum thinks you're trolling.
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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: January 12, 2019 07:59PM
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max
So according to, DeusxMac, with your logic, with over 4300 rapist priests in this country alone, we would be quite justified to either grab every single Catholic child from their parents, or as it seems to be your personal preference, have the FBI surround every single Catholic church and cathedral during their Sunday mass and burn the SOBs?

What is your preferred accelerant you would recommend to satisfy your need for charred kid bodies?...

False equivalence, Irrelevant conclusion, and your favorite go-to maxie, Argumentum ad hominem.
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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: Wild eep
Date: January 12, 2019 08:19PM
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Carnos Jax
You know, when you outright support terrorists on this forum max, and then play the card where you label those who criticize your 'heros' as the fascists/terrorist supporters....little wonder the majority of the forum thinks knows you're trolling.
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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: Pam
Date: January 12, 2019 09:36PM
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Carnos Jax
You know, when you outright support terrorists on this forum max, and then play the card where you label those who criticize your 'heros' as the fascists/terrorist supporters....little wonder the majority of the forum thinks you're trolling.

The block function and ignoring trolling works very well.
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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: August West
Date: January 13, 2019 08:35AM
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How do otherwise rational, well-educated people fall into these thinking traps?

Because they were raised with hateful, small-minded ideology that told them the way to feel superior to everyone else is to thump the Bible as hard as you can. And this is a cultural identity much more than a set of moral beliefs; that's the thing that makes it possible to support a person like Donald Trump and still call yourself "Christian." He wants what you want. That's enough.

A very cogent question, and an answer worth considering. When I was in university, I had a class with a great Prof who also became my friend. He was a Serbian Fulbright scholar who still teaches in Serbia. We were talking one day and the subject of Muslims came about. He transformed into a different person, filled with irrational hatred and describing how muslims had raped his great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great (how ever many) grandmother on the plains of Kosovo. Of course this battle was the late 14th century. Yes, a cultural identity superseding moral (religious) identity.



Picasso in his studio after the liberation of Paris, taken by my friend and mentor.

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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: January 13, 2019 12:32PM
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August West
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How do otherwise rational, well-educated people fall into these thinking traps?

Because they were raised with hateful, small-minded ideology that told them the way to feel superior to everyone else is to thump the Bible as hard as you can. And this is a cultural identity much more than a set of moral beliefs; that's the thing that makes it possible to support a person like Donald Trump and still call yourself "Christian." He wants what you want. That's enough.

A very cogent question, and an answer worth considering. When I was in university, I had a class with a great Prof who also became my friend. He was a Serbian Fulbright scholar who still teaches in Serbia. We were talking one day and the subject of Muslims came about. He transformed into a different person, filled with irrational hatred and describing how muslims had raped his great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great (how ever many) grandmother on the plains of Kosovo. Of course this battle was the late 14th century. Yes, a cultural identity superseding moral (religious) identity.

Great example to illustrate and expand the point- thank you.
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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: hal
Date: January 13, 2019 04:54PM
there were a few threads about Cat Stevens here many years ago that really woke me up about people and hatred.

There are LOTS of people that think that muslims are inherently dangerous. People 'quote' evil Koran passages all the time - and they believe it!
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Re: 'Texas Republicans fail to oust Muslim official over religion'
Posted by: sekker
Date: January 13, 2019 06:15PM
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hal
there were a few threads about Cat Stevens here many years ago that really woke me up about people and hatred.

There are LOTS of people that think that muslims are inherently dangerous. People 'quote' evil Koran passages all the time - and they believe it!

Yes, truly terrible to see this naked hatred from people that I know well.
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