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NYTimes: New York Charges Manafort With 16 Crimes. If He’s Convicted, Trump Can’t Pardon Him.
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: March 13, 2019 12:24PM
a prelude for the rest of the Trumpers. See you in Sing Sing, Jared!

New York Charges Manafort With 16 Crimes. If He’s Convicted, Trump Can’t Pardon Him.
[www.nytimes.com]

Paul J. Manafort, President Trump’s former campaign chairman, has been charged in New York with mortgage fraud and more than a dozen other state felonies, the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance, Jr., said Wednesday, an effort to ensure he will still face prison time if Mr. Trump pardons him for his federal crimes.

News of the indictment came shortly after Mr. Manafort was sentenced to his second federal prison term in two weeks; he now faces a combined sentence of more than seven years for tax and bank fraud and conspiracy in two related cases brought by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III.

The president has broad power to issue pardons for federal crimes, but has no such authority in state cases.

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The new state charges against Mr. Manafort are contained in a 16-count indictment that alleges a yearlong scheme in which he falsified business records to obtain millions of dollars in loans, Mr. Vance said in a news release after the federal sentencing.
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Mr. Manafort’s lawyers likely will challenge the new indictment on double jeopardy grounds. New York state law includes stronger protections than those provided by the United States Constitution, but prosecutors in Mr. Vance’s office have expressed confidence that they would prevail, people with knowledge of the matter said.



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Re: NYTimes: New York Charges Manafort With 16 Crimes. If He’s Convicted, Trump Can’t Pardon Him.
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: March 13, 2019 12:32PM
Any pardons for Manafort would have come months or years ago. He has nothing to offer the president now.



rj
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Re: NYTimes: New York Charges Manafort With 16 Crimes. If He’s Convicted, Trump Can’t Pardon Him.
Posted by: Kraniac
Date: March 13, 2019 12:38PM
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rjmacs
Any pardons for Manafort would have come months or years ago. He has nothing to offer the president now.

That might apply with a President is somewhat 'normal'///i wouldn't put anything past D. Crumbp...he'd do it just to rally his supporters..not a huge leap to make IMO.
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Re: NYTimes: New York Charges Manafort With 16 Crimes. If He’s Convicted, Trump Can’t Pardon Him.
Posted by: Janit
Date: March 13, 2019 12:42PM
NY Lawmakers Expected to Pass Bill Closing Double Jeopardy Loophole

[www.law.com]
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Re: NYTimes: New York Charges Manafort With 16 Crimes. If He’s Convicted, Trump Can’t Pardon Him.
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: March 13, 2019 12:53PM
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Janit
NY Lawmakers Expected to Pass Bill Closing Double Jeopardy Loophole

[www.law.com]

I am so happy to read this.



rj
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Vreemac, Moth of the Future
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Re: NYTimes: New York Charges Manafort With 16 Crimes. If He’s Convicted, Trump Can’t Pardon Him.
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: March 13, 2019 06:51PM
But, No Collusion.
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Re: NYTimes: New York Charges Manafort With 16 Crimes. If He’s Convicted, Trump Can’t Pardon Him.
Posted by: max
Date: March 14, 2019 10:59AM
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rjmacs
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Janit
NY Lawmakers Expected to Pass Bill Closing Double Jeopardy Loophole

[www.law.com]

I am so happy to read this.
Because getting one of your political targets justifies another tightening of the noose on our civil liberties.

While at it why not eliminate habeas corpus, the double jeopardy and all that other crap in the Bill of Rights?...




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"We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end.
One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution;
one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship."
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Re: NYTimes: New York Charges Manafort With 16 Crimes. If He’s Convicted, Trump Can’t Pardon Him.
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: March 14, 2019 01:09PM
Separation of powers, baby! I'm all about it! Branches and species.



rj
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Vreemac, Moth of the Future
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Re: NYTimes: New York Charges Manafort With 16 Crimes. If He’s Convicted, Trump Can’t Pardon Him.
Posted by: max
Date: March 15, 2019 02:02AM
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rjmacs
Separation of powers, baby! I'm all about it! Branches and species.
Pretty poor argument for abridging civil protections from government overreach, but as long as we do it lets just rename it separation of powers, baby.....


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Re: NYTimes: New York Charges Manafort With 16 Crimes. If He’s Convicted, Trump Can’t Pardon Him.
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: March 15, 2019 09:24AM
Call me when someone is really being victimized by this.



rj
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Vreemac, Moth of the Future
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