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Justice Roberts under pressure
Posted by: samintx
Date: May 11, 2019 01:26AM
[www.cnn.com]

(CNN)"As the Supreme Court strives to finish its work by the end of June -- deciding on issues from the future of the census to the ability of politicians to draw their own legislative districts -- the justices labor in their chambers at a particularly fraught moment in our country's history. The pressure may be greatest on Chief Justice John Roberts.

Try as he might -- and some might question whether he is trying hard enough lately -- Roberts is in danger of losing his battle to keep most Americans from seeing the court he leads as divorced from politics.
The latest Quinnipiac poll tells the tale, with nearly 60% of voters now seeing the justices as "too influenced by politics." In fact, actions by President Donald Trump and his administration have made Roberts' position more decisive than at any time in his nearly 15 years on the court. President Trump, it seems, views the Roberts court as his potential "get out of jail free" card, recently tweeting that if he were impeached under the Constitution he would look to the Supreme Court to bail him out."



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Re: Justice Roberts under pressure
Posted by: deckeda
Date: May 11, 2019 01:18PM
Bummer for them. They can only prove their worth with votes. This is different from the other two branches of government which rely more on rhetoric than action.

They can’t do a marketing campaign to change public opinion or whatever. Although the “Notorious RBG” stuff done by others is pretty cool.

Judges are still political, because their job is to side with someone. It’s like when folks hate any political talk on the Tips side here, because they figure stuff should “just happen” without politics.

Yeah OK.
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Re: Justice Roberts under pressure
Posted by: SteveO
Date: May 11, 2019 04:02PM
Gore v Bush. Doesn't get much more political than that.
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Re: Justice Roberts under pressure
Posted by: deckeda
Date: May 11, 2019 05:07PM
^^ and that’s where they lost credibility with progressives, and where regressives said, “wow, this really does work wonders!” See also McConnel’s treatment of Merrick Garland.
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Re: Justice Roberts under pressure
Posted by: gabester
Date: May 11, 2019 11:46PM
Whenever there are winners and losers from a change in policy, the politics card will be played.

However, when those who win had little before and have only a little more now, and those who lose had a lot and have only a little less, that's generally progress. When it's reversed... that will always be the wrong side of history.
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Re: Justice Roberts under pressure
Posted by: max
Date: May 12, 2019 08:04PM
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deckeda
^^ and that’s where they lost credibility with progressives, and where regressives said, “wow, this really does work wonders!” See also McConnel’s treatment of Merrick Garland.

Wannabe progressives.
There are probably two or three real progressives on this forum and none of the posters on this thread are among them. Trying to convince the weak minded of some major differences between the Democrats in power and the Republicans in the same position, does not change the fact that they are still just two faces of the same coin.
Gore managed to lose Florida all on his own, even Gore-Clinton propaganda rags like NYT or CNN, admitted the recounts did not elect Gore,
but you can keep on trying revising the inconvenient history....
[archive.nytimes.com]
[edition.cnn.com]
[www.washingtonpost.com]
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Re: Justice Roberts under pressure
Posted by: deckeda
Date: May 12, 2019 09:22PM
Ooh, the anarchist speaks!
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Re: Justice Roberts under pressure
Posted by: JoeH
Date: May 13, 2019 12:56PM
And max misrepresents what those post election "recounts" by the various news organizations actually state. Yes, under the most restrictive rules Bush stays the winner. But that includes Bush keeping the absentee ballots from overseas, mostly military, that Gore chose not to challenge. Those would normally have been discarded for arriving late, missing necessary signatures, and for other reasons. Most of the ones accepted were in counties where the GOP had pushed for them to be accepted in spite of failing to meet requirements.

Under a number of other recount rules using prevailing standards in FL, Gore would have won by a narrow margin. Perhaps by an even higher margin if so many ballots had not been thrown out by mistakes caused by poor ballot design and instructions from election officials on how to vote. What does come out of their examination is that Gore's campaign probably should have gone for a statewide recount in the first place, not just from a few counties.



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