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Another Latina is taking on the most corrupt Democratic political machine....
Posted by: max
Date: June 09, 2019 10:43AM
Unlike Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's case in the Bronx, the corrupt beast from Queens is fighting back.....

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ONE YEAR AGO, the Queens Democratic machine, which has controlled the politics of the borough in one form or another for decades, was stunned by the surprise loss of longtime party boss Joe Crowley to 28-year-old Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

The borg quickly reformed itself. Crowley was subsequently reelected chair of the county party, became a powerhouse lobbyist, and his Brooklyn-based protege, Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, eased into Crowley’s vacated leadership position in the House of Representatives.

The loss, party bosses concluded, could be weathered and was the result of getting taken by surprise — something they wouldn’t let happen again.

Queens is about to have its first competitive district attorney’s race in almost 30 years, and the machine is ready. The contest, set for June 25, bears some striking similarities to the Ocasio-Cortez/Crowley battle that fell on June 26 a year earlier.

A crowded field has been narrowed to two front-runners. On one side is 31-year-old queer Latina Tiffany Cabán, a former public defender running on an aggressively reformist agenda: end cash bail, stop criminalizing poverty, and broadly roll back mass incarceration and the war on drugs. She has the backing of the Working Families Party, Democratic Socialists of America, and a slew of community groups. She recently picked up the endorsement of Ocasio-Cortez, who has been pounding her email list and social media feed to raise small dollars for Cabán, and on Thursday she won the backing of radical Philadelphia DA Larry Krasner.

On the other side is the machine, in the form of Queens Borough President Melinda Katz, who has the backing of Crowley, the state’s elected officials, and the area’s major real estate developers...
Katz is a close Crowley ally. She campaigned for Crowley in the pivotal race that eventually saw Ocasio-Cortez unseat him from his 10-year reign representing New York’s 7th, and later the 14th, congressional district. Crowley heavily backed Katz’s 2013 campaign to become borough president, presided over her swearing-in the following year, and has personally backed her campaign for DA. Crowley’s campaign committee, Joe for New York, gave Katz $2,750 in May.

She also has support from much of New York’s congressional delegation, including current New York Reps. Greg Meeks, Carolyn Maloney, and Tom Suozzi. Gov. Andrew Cuomo is planning to hold a fundraiser for Katz on June 10, effectively throwing in his endorsement, the New York Post reported Monday. (He called her “Melissa” in an interview the next day with WNYC’s Brian Lehrer.) Cuomo also backed Katz’s bid for borough president in 2013.




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"We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end.
One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution;
one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship."
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Re: Another Latina is taking on the most corrupt Democratic political machine....
Posted by: deckeda
Date: June 09, 2019 11:22AM
Good for her. And if AOC can concentrate on helping her these next several weeks it'll likely be more important than whatever she does in Congress at the same time.
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Re: Another Latina is taking on the most corrupt Democratic political machine....
Posted by: sekker
Date: June 09, 2019 12:01PM
Thanks for posting, max. Plenty of political mess to go around these days, especially in big cities like NYC and Chicago.
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Re: Another Latina is taking on the most corrupt Democratic political machine....
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: June 09, 2019 12:29PM
> Another Latina is taking on the most corrupt Democratic political machine....

For all of the highly inflammatory language used in your post, not a single element of the quoted text implies corruption.

There certainly were several entrenched politicians in the region and an apparatus based around their support and re-election.

But the subject-line is not supported by the text that you cite.

This occurs very often with your posts. You seldom present facts that support your premise.

You should take some writing classes. They'll teach you how to avoid basic composition-errors.



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Re: Another Latina is taking on the most corrupt Democratic political machine....
Posted by: max
Date: June 09, 2019 03:19PM
Being bought by special interests, paying them off with the public purse and acting against interests of your own voters may not be considered being corrupt in Chicago or your circles Sarc, but it it also explains your support of the political machines you are so ardently defending.
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In 2018, Katz’s borough president campaign accepted $16,565 from Constantinople & Vallone consulting and its employees; the firm represents the private prison operator GEO Group...
Katz flipped on the death penalty, she pushed forward other measures that would increase incarceration and lengthen sentences for a variety of misdemeanor offenses....

Katz’s connections to the real estate industry have bolstered her numerous campaigns, and she’s collected at least $158,300 this cycle from real estate industry donors, The City reported. During her 2009 run for city comptroller, the New York Times editorial board endorsed former City Council member David Yassky (who now directs state policy for Cuomo); the board wrote that while “Katz has been a smart, dynamic leader of the Land Use Committee,” they were “less enthusiastic about her connections to the real estate community.”
In a city like New York where residents are in the throes of a massive affordability crisis, progressives are concerned that the Democratic machine is pushing someone with such close ties to the real estate industry.

Inability to deal objectively with inconvenient subjects is your own problem....




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"We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end.
One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution;
one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship."
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Re: Another Latina is taking on the most corrupt Democratic political machine....
Posted by: bfd
Date: June 09, 2019 03:47PM
Someone else (besides Trump) appears to have gone off their meds today…
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Re: Another Latina is taking on the most corrupt Democratic political machine....
Posted by: max
Date: June 09, 2019 04:08PM
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bfd
Someone else (besides Trump) appears to have gone off their meds today…

That happens quite often at your age. Just look at Trump.
You should be more careful about your health....




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"We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end.
One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution;
one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship."
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Re: Another Latina is taking on the most corrupt Democratic political machine....
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: June 09, 2019 04:15PM
Insisting that something represents corruption with no evidence of corruption undermines your own credibility and makes you look like a nutter.

Dems do not generally support the death penalty. Endorsing political positions closer to the center of the party and her constituents is not evidence of corruption. People change their minds. Politician sometimes do what the voters want them to do.

Opinion is not fact. Citing campaign contributions does not imply corruption. Cause-and-effect is missing entirely from your posts, max. You have not produced any evidence or provided any line of reasoning to support your position.

If you really believe in prison reform, perhaps you should start a thread critical of for-profit prisons with some factual references and genuine arguments instead of burdening your posts with faulty generalizations, non sequiturs and modal fallacies.







Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/09/2019 04:17PM by Sarcany.
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Re: Another Latina is taking on the most corrupt Democratic political machine....
Posted by: sekker
Date: June 09, 2019 05:00PM
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max
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bfd
Someone else (besides Trump) appears to have gone off their meds today…

That happens quite often at your age. Just look at Trump.
You should be more careful about your health....

max, I think you just want to be a curmudgeon. You actually posted text and a source for something many would agree with on this Board. Instead, you turned the discussion to an attack.
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Re: Another Latina is taking on the most corrupt Democratic political machine....
Posted by: max
Date: June 09, 2019 05:05PM
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Sarcany
Insisting that something represents corruption with no evidence of corruption undermines your own credibility and makes you look like a nutter.
Sure Sarc, defending Democratic Party corruption, repeatedly insisting it is not corruption, "it is just a flesh wound", while the evidence is just staring into your face, does not make you a nutter, and it surely reinforces your credibility.
Revisionism of the very recent history and denial of facts is your new normal....

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As the New York Daily News wrote in 2017:

For 30 years, the same three men have effectively controlled one of the largest Democratic organizations in America. They are Gerard Sweeney, Michael Reich and Frank Bolz, the powerful attorneys who serve Rep. Joe Crowley, the chairman of the Queens County Democratic Party. Reich is the executive secretary of the party, a spokesperson and wrangler of district leaders. Bolz is the law chairman, entrusted with keeping county-approved candidates on the ballot and knocking their rivals off.

And then, there’s the Queens County Surrogate’s Court, which has a long history of corruption.

Ocasio-Cortez had only a faint impression that something was off in the Westchester Surrogate Court where her family did battle for four years. The more she learned about the Queens one, the more convinced she was that her hunch about the lawyers who profited off of probate proceedings had been correct. Here’s how the New York Times described the Queen’s court in a 2011 account, in which Crowley is dubbed “the party boss in Queens”:

Power and money are found not so much in the voting booth as in the machine-controlled judicial conventions that pick judges, and in the courthouse on Sutphin Boulevard.

That is where you find Surrogate’s Court, otherwise known as widows and orphans court. This court appoints guardians who make handsome fees processing the estates of those Queens residents who die without wills.

To enter this court is to stumble upon Ponce de Leon’s own spring, an eternal source of easy money for the politically wired.

Sweeney’s office, according to the Daily News, made $30 million as counsel to the public administrator of the court from 2006 to 2017, administering the estates of people who died without wills. He did not respond to The Intercept’s request for comment, and he declined to comment to the Daily News last year about his work. Scott Kaufman, who served as Crowley’s campaign treasurer for 17 years, made almost half a million dollars from assignments by the court from 2006 to 2017
[theintercept.com]

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Crowley’s second biggest donor, the Blackstone Group, is a close ally of President Donald Trump
But you keep on defending him and the entire klavern of the Democratic corruption, Sarc....




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"We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end.
One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution;
one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship."
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Re: Another Latina is taking on the most corrupt Democratic political machine....
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: June 09, 2019 07:04PM
Supposition is not fact.



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Re: Another Latina is taking on the most corrupt Democratic political machine....
Posted by: pdq
Date: June 10, 2019 12:36AM
Have to agree with Sarcany - I don’t see where there is corruption here. People build political support, both from voters and from other politicians. And people run. Sometimes the underdog wins, like AOC.

That doesn’t sound like corruption to me.
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Re: Another Latina is taking on the most corrupt Democratic political machine....
Posted by: bfd
Date: June 10, 2019 08:04PM
Some psotters see corruption behind every Bush Clinton …
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Re: Another Latina is taking on the most corrupt Democratic political machine....
Posted by: max
Date: June 11, 2019 03:24AM
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pdq
Have to agree with Sarcany - I don’t see where there is corruption here. People build political support, both from voters and from other politicians. And people run. Sometimes the underdog wins, like AOC.

That doesn’t sound like corruption to me.

That is a real beaut, even for you, pdq, the entire linked article is describing the corruption of the Queens Democratic machine, partly because Trump family fortune has its roots tied to it, and you boyz are defending him and his cronies just because there is a D in front that corrupt den of thieves.

The article describes in minute detail the mechanism of the Democratic corruption.

The stench of hypocrisy is just reeking from your posts.....




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"We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end.
One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution;
one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship."
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Re: Another Latina is taking on the most corrupt Democratic political machine....
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: June 11, 2019 10:00AM
TheIntercept was a pretty good site for awhile, but they're no longer trusted since they've had a series of scandals featuring very slanted "news" and falsifying records/statements to support their stories. You'll need to do better than that if you intend to show primary sources indicating corruption in the ranks of the New York democrats.

In New York, anyone who takes money from real estate developers is assumed by the populace to be corrupt and for the most part, this has been proven to be a pretty safe assumption over the long term, but it's still just an assumption.

You can argue from such associations that someone is of deficient character, but association is not evidence of a crime. Nor is taking political donations. Politicians who take money from the NRA have a moral strike against them. They haven't committed a crime by taking that money.

The fact that Ocasio-Cortez won her election is a good indicator that however tough the "machine" has made it for newcomers to enter, the dems have not rigged the elections against them.

You have produced no evidence of corruption.



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Re: Another Latina is taking on the most corrupt Democratic political machine....
Posted by: max
Date: June 23, 2019 10:19AM
yep, when the the Democratic corruption becomes the new normal,
if you cannot dispute the facts, argue the source...




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"We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end.
One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution;
one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship."
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Re: Another Latina is taking on the most corrupt Democratic political machine....
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: June 23, 2019 11:49AM
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max
yep, when the the Democratic corruption becomes the new normal,
if you cannot dispute the facts, argue the source...

Your "source" relies on innuendo rather than facts.

There are no "facts" at issue.

Find a source that's factual next time and then we can argue the facts.



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