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What Civilian Needs Body Armor?
Posted by: graylocks
Date: August 12, 2019 09:47PM
this question wove through my mind as i was walking my dog today. why is body armor sold to non-combatants? it's not like the deer, ducks, squirrels, elephants, lions, giraffes, tigers, or rare goats are shooting back.

could that perhaps be one of the red flag warnings? you don't really need body armor unless you expect people to be shooting at you and, generally speaking, people don't shoot at you unless you are shooting at them (though i guess that could vary by neighborhood...).



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Re: What Civilian Needs Body Armor?
Posted by: gabester
Date: August 12, 2019 10:01PM
Freedom of speech means you have a constitutional right to wear whatever you want, I suppose.

So tax the hell out of the body armor and exempt first responders, much like we allow schoolteachers today to buy supplies tax-free?
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Re: What Civilian Needs Body Armor?
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: August 12, 2019 10:32PM
Ever been in a really aggressive paintball game?

Body armor would be nice.



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Re: What Civilian Needs Body Armor?
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: August 12, 2019 10:58PM
Well as far as the legality, let’s ask the folks who sell it.

“In the United States it is legal to purchase and possess body armour, except for a few states:
In Connecticut, body armour can only be purchased in person, and cannot be purchased online, over the phone, or by mail. In New York, a proposed ban of body armour for private citizens is currently debated. In Kentucky, committing a crime while wearing or even owning body armour is a crime in and of itself. In Louisiana, it is illegal to wear body armour on school property or on campus.

Even in regions, where wearing body armour is legal, overt (visible, on top of clothing) body armour is likely to attract attention from both the general public and law enforcement officials. Police officers may want to confirm why you are wearing a vest as this is unusual for a civilian out in public places. Additionally, this may cause other people to become worried and frightened as they might think there is an imminent danger or that you are a threat yourself. [ big grin smiley ] In such cases it is important to remain calm and explain your reasons for wearing body armour. As long as you are abiding by the law, police officers are likely to be understanding.

A way to avoid this situation altogether is to opt for a covert vest, which is worn underneath the clothing. This still provides you additional safety against ballistic, stab or spike attacks, but remains out of sight to anyone else. You can then move freely in public places with a greater degree of anonymity.”


For as little as $310.00 you’re all set with protection against “.44 Magnum, Semi Jacketed Hollow Point (SJHP) bullets... [and] 9mm full-metal jacketed bullets...”

“Level IIIA body armor provides the highest level of protection currently available from concealable body armor.”
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Re: What Civilian Needs Body Armor?
Posted by: GGD
Date: August 13, 2019 12:15AM
They sell bulletproof backpacks for school children these days.

And demand for them is increasing.

[www.cnn.com]
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Re: What Civilian Needs Body Armor?
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: August 13, 2019 05:44AM
Anyone hunting with Dick Cheney



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Re: What Civilian Needs Body Armor?
Posted by: graylocks
Date: August 13, 2019 06:50AM
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GGD
They sell bulletproof backpacks for school children these days.

And demand for them is increasing.

[www.cnn.com]

sadly, those backpacks do make sense to me.



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Re: What Civilian Needs Body Armor?
Posted by: graylocks
Date: August 13, 2019 06:50AM
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Ombligo
Anyone hunting with Dick Cheney

point taken. smiley-laughing001



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Re: What Civilian Needs Body Armor?
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: August 13, 2019 07:26AM
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Ombligo
Anyone hunting with Dick Cheney



Boom
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Re: What Civilian Needs Body Armor?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: August 13, 2019 07:39AM
[www.washingtonpost.com]

“The bulletproof panels are designed to withstand multiple rounds from a handgun — and two of this season’s bestsellers are emblazoned with Disney princesses and Avengers superheroes.

“Here’s our demographic: parents with kids,” said Steve Naremore, founder of TuffyPacks, a Houston-based company that sells bulletproof backpack inserts. “It’s a real morbid niche.”

And a growing one: Sales have increased every year since 2016.

This is America in 2019, where mass shootings have become so commonplace that consumers are buying bulletproof backpacks, clipboards, even three-ring binder inserts, that they hope will protect them from gunfire. Retailers across the country say they have seen growing demand for bullet-resistant products for children — as well as for doctors, teachers, flight attendants and taxi drivers — giving rise to an industry of ballistic goods for everyday Americans, though there is little evidence the products are actually effective.

For the first time, Office Max and Office Depot have included bulletproof backpacks among their back-to-school offerings, while online retailers are marketing bulletproof whiteboards, chair cushions and kids’ puffer vests that tap into a growing sense of fear and helplessness.”



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Re: What Civilian Needs Body Armor?
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: August 13, 2019 07:56AM
“... though there is little evidence the products are actually effective.”

To be fair, they’re going to have to unload a lot more product before market penetration is high enough to provide a body of evidence sufficient to draw conclusions that are really on target.













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Re: What Civilian Needs Body Armor?
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: August 13, 2019 08:50AM
There are a lot of 'civilians' in high risk neighborhoods and jobs (security, courier, etc..)... but yeah, the 'average' person has no damn need for body armor. The average person has no damn need to carry a firearm around all day. Walk around like a tactical wannabe fool, you're gonna see a SWAT team following you because you sure look like you're up to no good.

I mean, yeah, I can legally carry a shotgun while I'm mowing my lawn. But my neighbors are sure as hell gonna call 911 on my ass. Rightfully so. This 'Open carry' BS is legalized terroristic threatening. Should not be legal.
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Re: What Civilian Needs Body Armor?
Posted by: deckeda
Date: August 13, 2019 08:59AM
This 'Open carry' BS is legalized terroristic threatening. Should not be legal.

You know, it really is. It says, "I consider life a war zone and accept/prefer it to remain as such. So I'll be provocative because someone lied to me and said 'bad guys' would be intimidated by my strut."

Another thing it says is, "My dangly parts are small, so check out my surrogate instead."


P.S. Come to my small burg. They probably wouldn't care if you drove your riding lawnmower to the liquor store, George Jones-style.
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Re: What Civilian Needs Body Armor?
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: August 13, 2019 09:03AM
What civilian need body armor?

Increasingly, those who live in the United States.



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Re: What Civilian Needs Body Armor?
Posted by: PeterB
Date: August 13, 2019 09:22AM
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Blankity Blank
Well as far as the legality, let’s ask the folks who sell it.

“In the United States it is legal to purchase and possess body armour, except for a few states:
In Connecticut, body armour can only be purchased in person, and cannot be purchased online, over the phone, or by mail. In New York, a proposed ban of body armour for private citizens is currently debated. In Kentucky, committing a crime while wearing or even owning body armour is a crime in and of itself. In Louisiana, it is illegal to wear body armour on school property or on campus.

Interesting, considering that lawmakers down here keep pushing bills to allow concealed carry on campus. So I guess they want all of us dead. (If any of those bills pass, I'm leaving, no question about it.)




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Re: What Civilian Needs Body Armor?
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: August 13, 2019 03:28PM
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PeterB
...lawmakers down here keep pushing bills to allow concealed carry on campus.

Don’t “Liberal” attitudes increase in direct proportion to education?
Maybe they’re hoping there’ll be some self-inflicted reduction of those liberal campus herds.
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Re: What Civilian Needs Body Armor?
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: August 13, 2019 04:09PM

because those critters are more heavily armed than ever.
Full automatics and Kevlar for the sports hunter!
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