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There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: September 06, 2019 01:53PM
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"Four states are poised to cancel their 2020 GOP presidential primaries and caucuses, a move that would cut off oxygen to Donald Trump’s long-shot primary challengers. Republican parties in South Carolina, Nevada, Arizona and Kansas are expected to finalize the cancellations in meetings this weekend, according to three GOP officials who are familiar with the plans."



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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: Acer
Date: September 06, 2019 02:24PM
Not unprecedented when an incumbent is expected to win the primary anyway. But it has not been common, probably because the optics are terrible.
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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: GGD
Date: September 06, 2019 02:35PM
What happens if by primary time, 45 is no longer president, and Pence is in office? Is Pence automatically on the ballot, and the expected winner?

I always thought that some of the republican challengers were playing the long shot that 45 would for whatever reason not be seeking reelection by the time of the convention.
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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: September 06, 2019 02:44PM
It's their party, they can (whatever) if they want to.

Just like the democrats could have just said, "Screw y'all, this is who the nominee will be."

Just let all of these would-be Trump challengers run as "independents."
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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: September 06, 2019 02:48PM
Both parties have done this in the past (as late as 2012 in SC by the Dems.) However, what makes this different is previously the primaries we canceled when no one else was running. There are challengers to Trump, but the state parties are not even going to let voters have the opportunity to vote.



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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: September 06, 2019 03:26PM
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GGD
What happens if by primary time, 45 is no longer president, and Pence is in office?
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[ballotpedia.org]
The party will name a candidate as long as it's before July 2020. It would be funny as hell if Trump ended up in jail before election day, and the idiots elected him again. Of course Pence would pardon him (Ford and Nixon). I wonder if a pardoned person can take office ?
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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: RgrF
Date: September 06, 2019 04:00PM
Pence can't pardon him for state (NY) crimes.
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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: September 06, 2019 04:40PM
Maybe it will backfire. Maybe Trump will stink so bad by when his approval is around 35% and it's too late to replace him on the ticket.



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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 06, 2019 04:43PM
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Dennis S
Maybe it will backfire. Maybe Trump will stink so bad by then his approval is around 35% and it's too late to replace him on the ticket.

they like the stink.



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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 06, 2019 07:00PM
There'll be no end to cheating, manipulation and subterfuge. The period between Nov 3rd to Jan 20, 2021 will be amongst the most dangerous days in internal U.S. history.
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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: September 06, 2019 07:11PM
Clinton did this behind the scenes and I view it as the biggest disgrace during Obama's time in office.



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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: RgrF
Date: September 06, 2019 07:16PM
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Filliam H. Muffman
Clinton did this behind the scenes and I view it as the biggest disgrace during Obama's time in office.

You're gonna send Vision straight to Eqypt.
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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 06, 2019 07:26PM
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RgrF
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Filliam H. Muffman
Clinton did this behind the scenes and I view it as the biggest disgrace during Obama's time in office.

You're gonna send Vision straight to Eqypt.

Yep. I'm like the woman that tries to change her man. I'm still working on him.
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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: RgrF
Date: September 06, 2019 08:36PM
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Filliam H. Muffman
Clinton did this behind the scenes and I view it as the biggest disgrace during Obama's time in office.

You're gonna send Vision straight to Eqypt.

Yep. I'm like the woman that tries to change her man. I'm still working on him.

I was referring to the location of "da nile"
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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: September 06, 2019 08:38PM
It's going to take two things for me to stop bringing up that Clinton stole the nomination from Bernie:
- A progressive Dem as President with a supermajority in both houses
- Clinton never gets mentioned again.



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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: sekker
Date: September 06, 2019 09:02PM
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Filliam H. Muffman
It's going to take two things for me to stop bringing up that Clinton stole the nomination from Bernie:
- A progressive Dem as President with a supermajority in both houses
- Clinton never gets mentioned again.

Every time you do this, I'll politely remind everyone that there is no such thing as a 'protest vote'. Every vote not for Clinton was a vote for Orange Man,
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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: RgrF
Date: September 06, 2019 09:38PM
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It's going to take two things for me to stop bringing up that Clinton stole the nomination from Bernie:
- A progressive Dem as President with a supermajority in both houses
- Clinton never gets mentioned again.

Every time you do this, I'll politely remind everyone that there is no such thing as a 'protest vote'. Every vote not for Clinton was a vote for Orange Man,

That buys into the myth that Sanders voters defected en mass and either voted Trump or did not vote. It's a myth.

Clinton won 3+ million more votes than CheetoChrist, the Clinton machine took their collective eye off the ball and lost the Electoral College.
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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 07, 2019 12:47AM
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Filliam H. Muffman
Clinton did this behind the scenes and I view it as the biggest disgrace during Obama's time in office.

You're gonna send Vision straight to Eqypt.

Yep. I'm like the woman that tries to change her man. I'm still working on him.

I was referring to the location of "da nile"

The thing is, it's just words. Opinions. Bring me some facts. It's like a Twilight Zone of pretending to know the truth. Stuff isn't true just because you say so.

If I declare anything, I can bring irrefutable, verifiable facts. Y'all never do that. Always some he said, she said.

I'm trying to teach y'all but you need to wanna learn. Daddy v63 loves you.



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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: RgrF
Date: September 07, 2019 02:04AM
Common Russ, you're starting to sound like the Orangatang Man and his weather map. The Dem National Committee was charged with being neutral with their treatment of candidates in the run-up to the 2016 nomination, they WERE NOT!!!

You've denied this from the start, then you justified it by declaring Bernie an insurgent and not a Dem so not worthy of party resource.

Give it up, they did their best to stack the deck and it worked. It's not what they say they do but it's what political parties actually do all the time.
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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: pdq
Date: September 07, 2019 11:04AM
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RgrF
...you justified it by declaring Bernie an insurgent and not a Dem...

Which...umm... he wasn’t. To this day, his chosen party affiliation is Socialist. He’s free to run for the Democratic nomination, but just don’t expect special favors, you know?

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Give it up, they did their best to stack the deck and it worked.

Yes, they deviously got all those Dem primary voters to cast ballots for Clinton instead of the correct candidate...



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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 07, 2019 12:56PM
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RgrF
Common Russ, you're starting to sound like the Orangatang Man and his weather map. The Dem National Committee was charged with being neutral with their treatment of candidates in the run-up to the 2016 nomination, they WERE NOT!!!

You've denied this from the start, then you justified it by declaring Bernie an insurgent and not a Dem so not worthy of party resource.

Give it up, they did their best to stack the deck and it worked. It's not what they say they do but it's what political parties actually do all the time.

Based on what exactly? Stop talking and start showing. Stacked how? Specifically. Bernie is trash. He's just a parasite trying to take over the host. If you want me to, I can really go into specific detail. I go easy on him.
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Re: There can be only one... Trumplicans killing state primaries and caucases
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: September 07, 2019 10:40PM
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vision63
The thing is, it's just words. Opinions. Bring me some facts. It's like a Twilight Zone of pretending to know the truth. Stuff isn't true just because you say so.

If I declare anything, I can bring irrefutable, verifiable facts. Y'all never do that. Always some he said, she said.

I already asked once for the details of Bernie supposedly agreeing to sign his life away on the primary, and how it compared to previous contested Dem primary elections.

I also still need an explanation on why a few dozen Clinton delegates (with about four times as many Bernie delegates) missed the Nevada primary registration. I still contend it was that the date was moved up in secret to cut Bernie's delegates. This is the kind of thing that Bernie suffered from nationwide, death by a thousand cuts from Clinton insiders desperate to prevent another upset like Obama.

I still assert that 6 months is too long to register for the closed NY primary. Bernie had just started to pick up steam. Obama was 'doomed to fail' six months before the NY primary, but he was a middle of the road Dem and not an outlier that would have benefited from millions of independents changing their registration.



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