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We now know the price Putin asked for 2016
Posted by: sekker
Date: October 07, 2019 05:45PM
Ukraine, Syria, Turkey.

Destabilize NATO.

Attack on China.
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Re: We now know the price Putin asked for 2016
Posted by: deckeda
Date: October 07, 2019 06:18PM
Got proof? I mean, I haven’t read what you’re implying.

Not saying you’re necessarily wrong but so much of what 45 does or says seems random and knee-jerk of the moment to satisfy is id that actual planning doesn’t seem plausible a lot of the time.
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Re: We now know the price Putin asked for 2016
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: October 07, 2019 06:20PM
It's conspiracy theory time on the left now. Get ready for a bumpy ride.



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Re: We now know the price Putin asked for 2016
Posted by: $tevie
Date: October 07, 2019 06:50PM
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Re: We now know the price Putin asked for 2016
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: October 07, 2019 06:53PM
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rjmacs
It's conspiracy theory time on the left now. Get ready for a bumpy ride.

It's more of a story that has been unfolding since he won the White House, noted every time he moved the marker towards Putin. It ain't new, and by the evidence, it ain't a mere conspiracy theory.

So, do you think Nancy Pelosi has committed treason and is trying to overthrow the U.S. government in a coup?



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Re: We now know the price Putin asked for 2016
Posted by: sekker
Date: October 07, 2019 07:06PM
Not a theory. Just following the breadcrumbs.
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Re: We now know the price Putin asked for 2016
Posted by: sekker
Date: October 07, 2019 07:14PM
'The Trump administration is pulling out of the Open Skies Treaty, which allows the United States and our allies and partners in Europe to monitor Russian military deployments. Withdrawal risks dividing the transatlantic alliance. '
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Re: We now know the price Putin asked for 2016
Posted by: sekker
Date: October 07, 2019 07:22PM
Putin sure got what he paid for!
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Re: We now know the price Putin asked for 2016
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: October 07, 2019 07:23PM
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sekker
Not a theory. Just following the breadcrumbs.

Yeah, breadcrumbs the size of giant boulders.
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Re: We now know the price Putin asked for 2016
Posted by: sekker
Date: October 07, 2019 07:44PM
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Steve G.
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sekker
Not a theory. Just following the breadcrumbs.

Yeah, breadcrumbs the size of giant boulders.

I keep thinking this will become obvious to the anti-Russian Senators.
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Re: We now know the price Putin asked for 2016
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: October 07, 2019 07:56PM
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sekker
Ukraine, Syria, Turkey.

Destabilize NATO.

Attack on China.


I think the theory Rachel Maddow puts forward in her new book Blowout is reasonable:

Perhaps the book's most interesting suggestion is a theory of why Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. election: not only because Putin detests Hillary Clinton personally, but also because Obama-era sanctions were threatening his ability to extract oil, and thus keep a grip on power. And the companies with the technology to help him get that oil are American outfits that don't mind doing business with a crook. As Maddow would say, it all ties together.

[www.npr.org]
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Re: We now know the price Putin asked for 2016
Posted by: steve...
Date: October 07, 2019 08:02PM
I think all it cost Putin was someone with a video camera in a Moscow Hotel.

What else can explain Trump's behavior? Or maybe Putin dangling Trump Tower Moscow, like a carrot and a stick.




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Re: We now know the price Putin asked for 2016
Posted by: sekker
Date: October 07, 2019 08:42PM
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steve...
I think all it cost Putin was someone with a video camera in a Moscow Hotel.

What else can explain Trump's behavior? Or maybe Putin dangling Trump Tower Moscow, like a carrot and a stick.

No way a single hotel would hold this much influence.
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