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Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: deckeda
Date: December 02, 2019 01:08PM
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Posted by: vision63
Date: December 02, 2019 01:36PM
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Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: December 02, 2019 01:42PM
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Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: December 02, 2019 02:39PM
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Sarcany
Medicare for all doesn't work on its own because you're still on the hook for at least 20% of your medical bills under Medicare.
You will still need a supplemental insurance plan.
We should have a true single-payer system, but I would settle for “Medicare Extra For All,” so long as bankruptcy-inducing co-pays and "patient responsibility" bills are eliminated.
Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: RgrF
Date: December 02, 2019 03:29PM
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Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: December 02, 2019 03:37PM
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Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: Ted King
Date: December 02, 2019 04:47PM
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RgrF
You'll never get costs under control if you don't eventually remove insurance companies from the equation.
Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: mattkime
Date: December 02, 2019 04:55PM
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Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: December 02, 2019 04:56PM
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cbelt3
Because Medicare/Medicaid ONLY works because the rest of us pay out the hoo ha.
Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: AllGold
Date: December 02, 2019 05:10PM
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Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: SteveO
Date: December 02, 2019 06:04PM
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In an interview, Kelker said it is common for state legislators to publish under their name op-eds that they did not write. “That’s pretty normal," she said. "Actually, most of the time, for legislators, at least in Montana, [they] are written by someone else. You know, a helper-person, not necessarily a lobbyist. I normally write all of the text for my op-eds.”
She added: “I suppose I’m fairly naive. … As a legislator, you learn to sort out who is a good guy, and who is not, in terms of the lobbyists, and [MacDonald] has always been really straight. I don’t hang out or do anything with lobbyists much, but I really do trust him."
Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: $tevie
Date: December 02, 2019 06:19PM
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Medicaid For All is what they should be pushing. As you said, Medicare doesn't cover everything. How these people think Medicare For All would eliminate private insurance plans is beyond me.Quote
Sarcany
Medicare for all doesn't work on its own because you're still on the hook for at least 20% of your medical bills under Medicare.
You will still need a supplemental insurance plan.
We should have a true single-payer system, but I would settle for “Medicare Extra For All,” so long as bankruptcy-inducing co-pays and "patient responsibility" bills are eliminated.
Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: $tevie
Date: December 02, 2019 06:21PM
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This is the other thing I keep asking about (not here but elsewhere). Where will all these employees find news jobs? I get crickets when I ask this.Quote
Ombligo
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Sarcany
Medicare for all doesn't work on its own because you're still on the hook for at least 20% of your medical bills under Medicare.
You will still need a supplemental insurance plan.
We should have a true single-payer system, but I would settle for “Medicare Extra For All,” so long as bankruptcy-inducing co-pays and "patient responsibility" bills are eliminated.
I too would like a single-payer system, but the Medicare model with supplemental works in that it keeps the private insurance sector working. Closing out the private sector totally could cost upwards of 500,000 jobs.
Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: RgrF
Date: December 02, 2019 06:30PM
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Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: December 02, 2019 06:57PM
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$tevie
This is the other thing I keep asking about (not here but elsewhere). Where will all these employees find news jobs? I get crickets when I ask this.
Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: deckeda
Date: December 02, 2019 07:19PM
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Filliam H. Muffman
99% of the company CEO's and lobbyists, 90% of high level administrators, and 45% of bottom line employees will lose their jobs, the rest will go to work for Medicare.
It's the CEO's getting together and paying hundreds of millions to lobbyists that keeps the current system in place, and is the reason our health care costs are so much higher than the other first world countries.
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Filliam H. Muffman
Countries in green have universal health care.
Yes, yes, but they're all going to Hell. Haven't you heard how exceptional America is? We're truly special. And better. That map proves it obviously.
Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: December 02, 2019 07:21PM
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Posted by: Dennis S
Date: December 02, 2019 07:59PM
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Posted by: JoeKabila
Date: December 02, 2019 08:25PM
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Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: Acer
Date: December 02, 2019 11:22PM
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Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: vision63
Date: December 03, 2019 01:12AM
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Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: AllGold
Date: December 03, 2019 01:43AM
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Acer
I fail to see how government could do it worse than the way health care insurance and billing is done now. Copays, coinsurance, deductibles, family limits, negotiated discounts, denied/allowed procedures, pre-approval requirements, drug formularies, one procedure generating bills from multiple providers and a partridge in a pear tree. THIS is the system we think is a capitalist dream?
Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: pdq
Date: December 03, 2019 08:14AM
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Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: deckeda
Date: December 03, 2019 12:50PM
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AllGold
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the government would do it worse but have you seen any of the behind-the-scenes nuts and bolts of Medicare and Obamacare? There is some spectacularly complicated stuff there.
Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on.
Posted by: vision63
Date: December 03, 2019 02:35PM
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Posted by: Ca Bob
Date: December 03, 2019 04:19PM
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