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Iran says it shot down Ukrainian airliner, blames human error
Posted by: Speedy
Date: January 10, 2020 10:28PM
[www.washingtonpost.com]

The General Staff of Armed Forces said in a statement Saturday that Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752 was shot down “unintentionally” after departing from Imam Khomeini International Airport in Tehran.
The passenger plane, carrying 176 people, turned “toward a sensitive military base” belonging to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, which mistook the airliner for a “hostile aircraft,” the statement carried by state television said.



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Re: Iran says it shot down Ukrainian airliner, blames human error
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: January 10, 2020 11:31PM
Unfortunately no big deal.
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Re: Iran says it shot down Ukrainian airliner, blames human error
Posted by: vision63
Date: January 11, 2020 12:41AM
We had a solid deal with Iran.
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Re: Iran says it shot down Ukrainian airliner, blames human error
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: January 11, 2020 12:44AM
Yup
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Re: Iran says it shot down Ukrainian airliner, blames human error
Posted by: deckeda
Date: January 11, 2020 10:17AM
+1 for admitting fault
-176 for killing and for taking days to say so, only after mounting pressure and impending evidence
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Re: Iran says it shot down Ukrainian airliner, blames human error
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: January 11, 2020 10:53AM
Both sides have too much ego. Even to this day, the United States never really admitted they made a mistake in shooting down the Iran Air Airbus A300 that killed nearly 300 people. Same for the Russians, who shot down a Korean Air 747 and a Malaysian Airlines 777.



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Re: Iran says it shot down Ukrainian airliner, blames human error
Posted by: pdq
Date: January 11, 2020 12:02PM
A real F-up, for sure. But honestly, this is what happens when you randomly, impetuously start throwing missiles and drone strikes around in a volatile part of the world.
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Re: Iran says it shot down Ukrainian airliner, blames human error
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: January 11, 2020 01:13PM
Opinion
Donald Trump gets impeached—63 Canadians die
Scott Gilmore: There are effects of the Trump presidency. Some will be felt in the decades to come, others are immediate and tragic.



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Re: Iran says it shot down Ukrainian airliner, blames human error
Posted by: hal
Date: January 11, 2020 03:56PM
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deckeda
+1 for admitting fault
-176 for killing and for taking days to say so, only after mounting pressure and impending evidence

Canada and Ukraine are not awarding that +1 - protests in the streets of Ukraine.
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Re: Iran says it shot down Ukrainian airliner, blames human error
Posted by: vision63
Date: January 11, 2020 04:56PM
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Filliam H. Muffman
Opinion
Donald Trump gets impeached—63 Canadians die
Scott Gilmore: There are effects of the Trump presidency. Some will be felt in the decades to come, others are immediate and tragic.

The plane was shot down the moment Trump comically mimicked a disabled man and everybody let it slide.
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Re: Iran says it shot down Ukrainian airliner, blames human error
Posted by: SteveO
Date: January 12, 2020 01:34AM
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vision63
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Filliam H. Muffman
Opinion
Donald Trump gets impeached—63 Canadians die
Scott Gilmore: There are effects of the Trump presidency. Some will be felt in the decades to come, others are immediate and tragic.

The plane was shot down the moment Trump comically mimicked a disabled man and everybody let it slide.

Yep. I shudder to think for what else he is going to be the catalyst before finally leaving office. Going on three years of tragedies now, but his negative effects will be felt for decades. Starting with dumbing down and bringing out the very worst and base behaviors in so many Americans.
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Re: Iran says it shot down Ukrainian airliner, blames human error
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: January 12, 2020 10:36AM
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vision63
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Filliam H. Muffman
Opinion
Donald Trump gets impeached—63 Canadians die
Scott Gilmore: There are effects of the Trump presidency. Some will be felt in the decades to come, others are immediate and tragic.

The plane was shot down the moment Trump comically mimicked a disabled man and everybody let it slide.

If anything ever needed to be quoted for truth, this is it.
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Re: Iran says it shot down Ukrainian airliner, blames human error
Posted by: hal
Date: January 12, 2020 03:35PM
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SteveO
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vision63
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Filliam H. Muffman
Opinion
Donald Trump gets impeached—63 Canadians die
Scott Gilmore: There are effects of the Trump presidency. Some will be felt in the decades to come, others are immediate and tragic.

The plane was shot down the moment Trump comically mimicked a disabled man and everybody let it slide.

Yep. I shudder to think for what else he is going to be the catalyst before finally leaving office. Going on three years of tragedies now, but his negative effects will be felt for decades. Starting with dumbing down and bringing out the very worst and base behaviors in so many Americans.

He showed that he could get away with all kinds of bad behavior that no one ever tried to get away with before. The 'getting away' with this stuff is not going away unless laws are passed. Future presidents will cite precedence.
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Re: Iran says it shot down Ukrainian airliner, blames human error
Posted by: vision63
Date: January 12, 2020 05:07PM
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hal
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SteveO
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vision63
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Filliam H. Muffman
Opinion
Donald Trump gets impeached—63 Canadians die
Scott Gilmore: There are effects of the Trump presidency. Some will be felt in the decades to come, others are immediate and tragic.

The plane was shot down the moment Trump comically mimicked a disabled man and everybody let it slide.

Yep. I shudder to think for what else he is going to be the catalyst before finally leaving office. Going on three years of tragedies now, but his negative effects will be felt for decades. Starting with dumbing down and bringing out the very worst and base behaviors in so many Americans.

He showed that he could get away with all kinds of bad behavior that no one ever tried to get away with before. The 'getting away' with this stuff is not going away unless laws are passed. Future presidents will cite precedence.

I actually would hate it to come to that. A president "should" have some discretion that goes beyond what congress can thwart. We've had 44 other presidents with the same powers. Who knows what sort of emergency we could get into where we'll need an executive making executive decisions? This man doesn't love our country. He's not a patriot.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/12/2020 05:08PM by vision63.
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